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Feb 23, 2019 21:41:49   #
Bcon
 
Nickolai wrote:
I couldn't care less about Hillary Clinton and my world view doesn't originate with the MSM although I have found them to be much more reliable than right wing sources. Truth Out .org was founded in 2000 in order to cut through the right wing propaganda and get out the truth. But I had given up on Republicanism I had subscribed to since 1958 and wised up to the truth just from experience not reading any body's crap


You didn’t ever wise up. You regressed to your pitiful left wing self.

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Feb 23, 2019 21:44:09   #
Nickolai
 
Bcon wrote:
Wikipedia is as truthful as Snopes. They print mainly left wing opinions.







that's not true if there is no credible source the Mgr's of Wikipedea note it and one knows not to take it to the bank but to take it with a grain of salt.

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Feb 23, 2019 21:48:21   #
Bcon
 
Nickolai wrote:
that's not true if there is no credible source the Mgr's of Wikipedea note it and one knows not to take it to the bank but to take it with a grain of salt.


Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. This means that any information it contains at any particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. ... Wikipedia generally uses reliable secondary sources, which vet data from primary sources.

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Feb 23, 2019 21:56:01   #
Nickolai
 
Bcon wrote:
You didn’t ever wise up. You regressed to your pitiful left wing self.







It is called growth. If I had known then what I know now I would not have wasted all those years supporting conservative Republicans. After reading history book after history book I suddenly realized that Conservatives never invented any thing since they invented the dark age. The Renaissance, the reformation, the enlightenment, the age of reason, the industrial revolution, the Progressive era were all produced by progressive minded men and women with vision. Conservatives have no vision because they can't take their eyes of the rear view mirrior. The conservatives have only ever had one good idea. But it wasn't just a good idea, it was the second greatest idea ever!

The great conservative idea: some things need to be CONSERVED! That's it. End of story. There have been no other good conservative ideas in the history of the world! Which would not even matter so much if the conservatives were very good at understanding and applying their one great idea. Unfortunately for everyone, conservatives are horrible - the world's worst - at understanding the weight and responsibility of this idea and taking good care of it. They have a pathetic legacy of applying this jewel of an idea throughout all the long millennia of the human story. They fail to apply it when it is really called for, and ignorantly, stubbornly, meanly apply it to some of the absolute worst things in the world.

The great liberal idea: we need to be LIBERATED from some things!

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Feb 23, 2019 22:05:13   #
Bcon
 
Nickolai wrote:
It is called growth. If I had known then what I know now I would not have wasted all those years supporting conservative Republicans. After reading history book after history book I suddenly realized that Conservatives never invented any thing since they invented the dark age. The Renaissance, the reformation, the enlightenment, the age of reason, the industrial revolution, the Progressive era were all produced by progressive minded men and women with vision. Conservatives have no vision because they can't take their eyes of the rear view mirrior. The conservatives have only ever had one good idea. But it wasn't just a good idea, it was the second greatest idea ever!

The great conservative idea: some things need to be CONSERVED! That's it. End of story. There have been no other good conservative ideas in the history of the world! Which would not even matter so much if the conservatives were very good at understanding and applying their one great idea. Unfortunately for everyone, conservatives are horrible - the world's worst - at understanding the weight and responsibility of this idea and taking good care of it. They have a pathetic legacy of applying this jewel of an idea throughout all the long millennia of the human story. They fail to apply it when it is really called for, and ignorantly, stubbornly, meanly apply it to some of the absolute worst things in the world.

The great liberal idea: we need to be LIBERATED from some things!
It is called growth. If I had known then what I k... (show quote)


The main thing we all need to be liberated from is the Democratic, turned socialist on the verge of communism, party. Your party cares nothing for America, instead wants to be a borderless country that will lose its national identity, and become part of your glorified one world government ruled by the same people who pull the strings of the failed United Nations. I am a nationalist. Read it right. America First.

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Feb 23, 2019 22:32:14   #
Nickolai
 
Bcon wrote:
Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. This means that any information it contains at any particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. ... Wikipedia generally uses reliable secondary sources, which vet data from primary sources.





So you think conservapedia is a good source. I challenge you to find reliable information conserning the national debt as a percent of GDP that differs from Wikipedia. as long as the information is accurate isn't that what counts and the stats are accurate. You can argue Wikipedia till your black in the face but the stats don't lie

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Feb 23, 2019 22:45:03   #
Bcon
 
Nickolai wrote:
So you think conservapedia is a good source. I challenge you to find reliable information conserning the national debt as a percent of GDP that differs from Wikipedia. as long as the information is accurate isn't that what counts and the stats are accurate. You can argue Wikipedia till your black in the face but the stats don't lie


Is there such a thing or is this another of your flea brained sources?

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Feb 23, 2019 22:46:36   #
Bcon
 
Nickolai wrote:
So you think conservapedia is a good source. I challenge you to find reliable information conserning the national debt as a percent of GDP that differs from Wikipedia. as long as the information is accurate isn't that what counts and the stats are accurate. You can argue Wikipedia till your black in the face but the stats don't lie


You always did seem to be the very gullible type. As long as the information fits your agenda. You also believe Scopes is accurate, I guess.

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Feb 23, 2019 23:16:33   #
Nickolai
 
Bcon wrote:
You always did seem to be the very gullible type. As long as the information fits your agenda. You also believe Scopes is accurate, I guess.






Yes I was gullible as a youngster I was persuaded to change my registration from Democrat to Republican I'm embarrassed to admit but I chalk it up to the fact I was ignorant ,uneducated, and naïve. It took me too long to walk up to reality. I don't know if Snopes is accurate or not. I know if information is posted on Wikipedia and has no credible source , Wiki will note source is needed

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Feb 24, 2019 01:40:51   #
Danoboy
 
FDR did NOT end the great depression, WWII did. Any other belief is a lie.

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Feb 24, 2019 01:59:42   #
Nickolai
 
Bcon wrote:
The main thing we all need to be liberated from is the Democratic, turned socialist on the verge of communism, party. Your party cares nothing for America, instead wants to be a borderless country that will lose its national identity, and become part of your glorified one world government ruled by the same people who pull the strings of the failed United Nations. I am a nationalist. Read it right. America First.






Nationalism was responsible for the deaths of 100 million people in the 20th century, and I don't know any Democrat that wants a borderless country. we need to control our boarders but we don't need a medieval wall we already have plenty of wall. The idea of one world government is ridiculous nonsense

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Feb 24, 2019 02:11:35   #
Nickolai
 
Bcon wrote:
Is there such a thing or is this another of your flea brained sources?






I challenge you to produce evidence that the stats are wrong. After 15 years of depression and war the ND stood at 120 % of GDP the highest in our history it fell every year for the next 34 years except for one Nixon year to 32 % of GDP in 1979



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Feb 24, 2019 02:13:57   #
EconomistDon
 
Nickolai wrote:
No body on this web site has ever demolished my position because it is based on truth, facts and evidence. And its easy to see when the reactionaries run out of ammo--they start with the insults and nasty name calling because their arguments are baseless


I have demolished your position MANY times. Admit it Nicky.

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Feb 24, 2019 02:25:39   #
EconomistDon
 
Nickolai wrote:
It's easy -conservatives have an oversize Amygdala, a mass in the brain responsible for the center of fear. involuntary reaction, self preservation and the reason conservatives are so self centered and greedy



So Nicky, why is it that Democrats (leftists) are the party of hate, violence, and irrationality? We have Antifa inflicting bodily harm on conservatives. We have Pelosi and Waters encouraging leftists to attack conservatives on the street, in restaurants, wherever, to harass them and inflict bodily harm. We have leftists throwing hateful lies at Bret Kavanaugh, hoping to keep him out of the Supreme Court. We have hateful leftists attacking innocent children wearing MAGA hats. And we have a disgruntled Democrat paying people to attack him so that he can claim that white Trump supporters attacked him. WHAT IS IT IN THE DEMOCRAT BRAIN THAT MAKES THEM SO STUPID?

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Feb 24, 2019 02:46:48   #
EconomistDon
 
Nickolai wrote:
Venezuela is a poor example. That country only has one source of wealth --oil and the US only buys half of what we once did. With all the fracking we don't need as much of it. According to the socialist party of the UK there are no purely socialist countries but every developed country has a mixture of socialism and capitalism. The US has had a mixture since before the construction of the Erie Canal. Public schools were invented in north America


Nicky, oh learned one, how do you explain Argentina?????? Argentina was the sweetheart of South America in the 1950s. They had huge swaths of land in agriculture and abundant natural resources. They had it all with a capitalist system; they were the pride of South America. But socialism crept in. As socialism grew, economic growth slowed. The final straw was free healthcare for all. Their economy collapsed. Expanding socialism eventually grew into fascism under Juan Perot, and their economy has been in the dump ever since.

Nicky, a degree of socialism is essential for a civilized society. Data going back 10,000 years show that older individuals could not have survived without someone else chewing their food and spitting it into their mouths. Civilized societies take care of their old, sick, and handicapped. But eventually that grows beyond taking care of the needy; it grows into free stuff. And when free stuff grows out of control, the economy fails. It ALWAYS happens.

It's sad that Argentina's neighbor, Venezuela, didn't learn from Argentina's mistakes. Venezuela is going down the same trail of economic disaster.

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