BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Abortion is NOT dealing with life! Abortion is AVOIDING dealing.



"Projected possibility?" A baby in the womb is a PERSON!



Ya...go ahead and see how few abortions are done for those reasons and how many are done for the sake of convenience.



No...which is why abortion needs to continue to be a medical procedure.



Unless I kill 2 or 3 people a day my health goes all to sht. Can't sleep, can't eat.

If I don't rob a convenience store now and then I start feeling insecure and next thing you know I'm seeing a shrink.



Which STILL doesn't mean they are obliged to pay for it or speak well of it.



What horrible sounding people! Good thing most are Pro-deathers and Pro-abortion like you.



Some don't. Don't paint with too broad a brush. For instance, Libertarians may not be specifically opposed to abortion as long as they person getting it PAYS for it. Some folks are against it after a certain point yadayada…



NO! YOU support that and you can't see why.

What's the difference between eastern and western medical philosophy?

One is proactive and the other is reactive. In the case of unwanted pregnancy, 90% (guestimate) of them could have been prevented. Tell me I'm wrong.

The very first (numero uno) rule of avoiding unwanted pregnancy is save it for marriage. Save it for the person you want to have children with...it's just biology.

But here in America we've become fixated hedonism, cheap thrills and the avoidance of consequences. The thing about consequences is they come no matter what and attempt to avoid them usually just makes the consequences show up somewhere else...the ratio of working Americans paying Social Security for the retired is just one example or women who have abortions and never forgive themselves for it. My dearly departed wife was one of them.



Where have you looked? You have to open your eyes to see. Whatever information bubble you live in I promise you...if you ventured outside of it you'll find all kinds of stuff you don't know and have never seen.

How much hanging out with prolifers and church folks do you do on a daily basis, anyway? Not much, I bet.

Without looking myself I could go online and find thousands of prolife organizations that perform lifesaving procedures such as you mentioned for everyone!

NOT ONLY THAT! Christian organizations, in particular go all over the world digging wells, founding schools, building homes and providing medical care to ease whatever crisies they find when they get there.

NOT ONLY THAT! Prolifers pay taxes too...and taxpayers pay quite a bit.

If that's all you do...if you don't go an extra mile like you say the prolifers don't, what makes you better than them?

Well...you're not. And you aren't doing a damn thing more to allieviate the plight of unwanted people than any other callous fk who would just as soon kill them.



Ah...you were being hypocritical and you admit it! Good job.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Are your words here pointing out that Roe v. Wade is about to be declared unconstitutional? It seems that you of the wild left lean are really worried about that happening. I have seen too many of your kind talking about just that. It seems that one of your main talking points seems to have to do with the death of Roe v. Wade since most of you are sure that our newest Supreme Court Justice will bring on the death of that Court decision. That Kavanaugh must have a lot of power, maybe more than the rest of the Court.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Outstanding words that won't ever be acceptable to the Far Left, at least those who elected the Virginia governor and Governor Cuomo of New York. Actually it is impossible to discuss abortion with people who support those two men since they take the words of men like them and run with them. Damned nice try.

Joanie Gardener

Our lives begin with a heart that beats and end when the heartbeat stops. A beating human embryo has a heart at 22 days after conception. It beats on day 22. Therefore it is a living being. I believe abortions should never be allowed. A woman does have a choice: birth control or abstinence..

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Tommy, I agree with this nurse 100% but I thought, while listening the second time that she doesn't live in Virginia or New York so she will have to give in to their laws or take a chance of being tried and jailed for breaking the new laws. Yes, talking about this is good but going to jail for not wanting to obey the law isn't really too good, I don't think. If she lives in one of those states she will have to obey the new law as those two Governors will come after her.

Killing viable babies is surely murder but with laws like these legal. I remember our President Obama voting for just this thing in Illinois. It is too bad he wasn't out of the Illinois Legislature when he voted that vote but that makes him kind of a murderer.

Last evening I listened to Tucker Carlson trying to get one of those people who have always supported abortion and never allowed him to even try to change the subject without trying to get on Roe v. Wade. She was doing just what he accused her of, using Democrat talking points the way THEY do and he finally kicked her off the air.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

If you are a Christian I would ask you define when Christ in the womb first became both man and God possessing a soul?

Prior to your 22 days is that foetus life?

debeda

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Oldroy, I hadn’t thought about that. Thanks for pointing it out! Scary when doing the moral thing becomes illegal! But we Christians have seen it coming, doesn’t mean it still isn’t shocking!

I think I also saw that exchange with Tucker Carlson.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

People minimize this kind of thing. Everyone who speaks so casually about such a despicable act needs some Clockwork Orange style reality therapy by being forced to watch abortions in living color until they get it!

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

My wife had 3 abortions as a young woman then had a son at 22. At 25 she did a complete about face. Gave up partying, divorced her biker husband took her son raised him on her own. She had been single 11 years when I met her, straight as an arrow, good job go to church gal...which is where I met her.

And 20 something years after her last abortion developed inflammatory breast cancer, which at that time usually killed a year after diagnosis. She lived 6 years and had many surgeries, radiation treatments, chemo.

Her previous abortions haunted her, wondering who those babies would have been. It was the only thing I ever saw her keep from her Ma and sister.

She found out about the studies you mentioned...young women who have multiple abortions have a ridiculously higher level of certain cancers. That's what she figured she did to herself.

It occurs to me many years later that women with cancers in her family may be even more at risk and that was my wife.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Wait until we start seeing how many have been being done for sex selection.

Ricktloml

Less than 1% of abortions are performed to save the mother's life. And before Roe V Wade most doctors did so anyway. The "father" of the abortion movement, Dr. Bernard Nathanson admitted he lied about the number of women injured or killed getting a so called "back-ally abortion". When asked he said 10,000, the number was actually 200-250. He personally performed hundreds of abortions, and said he really believed legalizing abortion would help women. He was hailed by pro-abortion advocates as a saint. As medical science advanced, (ultra-sound ect.) he asked a woman if he could put a camera in her womb and film her abortion. She agreed. When he saw the baby trying to get away from the sharp instruments that would dismember him or her, he never performed another abortion. He said abortion was the killing of a baby and was immoral. He made the film Silent Scream, and the same people who lionized him for lying, vilified him for telling the truth

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Your wife hung in there, she was a courageous fighter!

I have had a couple of radical surgeries do to cancer too.

I was fairly mean in my younger days, and accept that I reap what I sowed.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Pure evil.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

"The Roe v. Wade decision held that a woman, with her doctor, could choose abortion in earlier months of pregnancy without legal restriction, based primarily on the right to privacy. In later trimesters, state restrictions could be applied." Jone Johnson Lewis

Jone Johnson Lewis is a former writer for ThoughtCo. She is an ordained humanist minister. Lewis has taught on the topic of women in religious history as an adjunct faculty member at Meadville/Lombard Theological School. She has also been involved in the women's movement since the late 1960s.

Not exactly a right winger's testimony. "Based primarily on the right to privacy", huh?

I doesn't seem to me "right to privacy" and "right to an abortion" perfectly juxtapose. I see how they can but that might not always be the case.

Maybe, when they bring Ginsberg's corpse out and admit she's been on ice, Trump can appoint another Constitutionalist and we can all have a little civics lesson.