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Dec 26, 2018 12:57:31   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I guess some work fine, but men can not be trusted to do the right thing.


Not sure if I understand what you're getting at !

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Dec 26, 2018 13:30:13   #
moldyoldy
 
4430 wrote:
Not sure if I understand what you're getting at !


There are some that work good, but most are corrupted.

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https://www.farmworkerjustice.org/content/h-2a-guestworker-program

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Dec 27, 2018 01:11:07   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
badbobby wrote:
Tom
since you don't live in a border state,I'm sure you haven't felt the impact of so great many illegal aliens
here in south Texas
we are already a minority
.
Since there is no way we can assimilate all of them here,it only makes sense that they will start to spread to other states
soon there will be no U,S.A as we know it
And Tom they will certainly get to your whereabouts,then maybe you will understand why we need a wall
but by then
I'm afraid it'll be too late
There a quite a few here already They took over my old town Klamath Falls more than 25 years ago. Where I live now in Coos Bay the mexicans do almost all of the forestry work and logging companies have mostly mexican crews. They seem to do the jobs that White boys won't do.

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Dec 27, 2018 01:14:24   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
It’s facts. California is the fifth largest economy. Unfortunately that economy is not very evenly distributed. They have the biggest discrepancy between have and have-nots. The reason the midwestern states are seen as heavily subsidized is due to they contain most of the farmland and military bases.
no objection to you there.


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Dec 27, 2018 03:05:45   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I love my country but fear my government. Lots of dirty deeds being done but as long as it isn't happening to you it can be ignored. It is only going to get worse.


Only if we let it is spot on!

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Dec 27, 2018 12:52:06   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Are they legal?
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
There a quite a few here already They took over my old town Klamath Falls more than 25 years ago. Where I live now in Coos Bay the mexicans do almost all of the forestry work and logging companies have mostly mexican crews. They seem to do the jobs that White boys won't do.


Are the legal or illegal?
there is a difference
wait til you're a minority

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Dec 27, 2018 12:56:05   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
White boys might do em if the government and parents would let them boys feel some I'm hungry cramps. Hunger can be a great motivator.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
There a quite a few here already They took over my old town Klamath Falls more than 25 years ago. Where I live now in Coos Bay the mexicans do almost all of the forestry work and logging companies have mostly mexican crews. They seem to do the jobs that White boys won't do.

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Dec 27, 2018 18:00:30   #
JoyV
 
badbobby wrote:
Are they legal?

Are the legal or illegal?
there is a difference
wait til you're a minority


When jobs are done mostly by non whites, they are usually illegals being paid less than minimum wage. There are NO jobs whites won't do! And I'm not white.

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Dec 27, 2018 19:05:40   #
debeda
 
JoyV wrote:
When jobs are done mostly by non whites, they are usually illegals being paid less than minimum wage. There are NO jobs whites won't do! And I'm not white.


AGREED, JoyV!! I AM white and I've had some crap ass jobs, lemme tell you!!! When you've gotta put food on the table you do wjat you've gotta do!!

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Dec 28, 2018 00:40:14   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
badbobby wrote:
Are they legal?

Are the legal or illegal?
there is a difference
wait til you're a minority


Legal mostly. They have to have proper identification or they don't get hired. I'll still be a redneck no matter what.

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Dec 28, 2018 00:42:57   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
debeda wrote:
AGREED, JoyV!! I AM white and I've had some crap ass jobs, lemme tell you!!! When you've gotta put food on the table you do wjat you've gotta do!!
You have pride and that is a good thing. I once had to work in a tallow plant to support my family.. I burned my clothes after I was finished with that job.


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Dec 28, 2018 00:50:03   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
White boys might do em if the government and parents would let them boys feel some I'm hungry cramps. Hunger can be a great motivator.
My grandpa took me to a farm every day where I changed irrigation pipe for one penny per pipe joint. I had to walk through alfalfa up to my ears getting a mouth full of mosquitos with every breath. But hey I got to drive the farmers jeep so it was worth it to me.


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Dec 28, 2018 01:03:56   #
debeda
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
You have pride and that is a good thing. I once had to work in a tallow plant to support my family.. I burned my clothes after I was finished with that job.



Ugh I can imagine!! I worked in a plastics factory and everything STUNK and would get holes. Also worked at Borg Warner on the glue line and the assembly lines. STINKY, hot and BORING. At least they provided uniforms so you didn't wreck your clothes, tho they still were stinky.

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Dec 28, 2018 01:07:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I thought bailing hay was hard unti I helped pick and hang tobacco. Of course I had to try one of those green leaves to chew. Never been that dizzy ever.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
My grandpa took me to a farm every day where I changed irrigation pipe for one penny per pipe joint. I had to walk through alfalfa up to my ears getting a mouth full of mosquitos with every breath. But hey I got to drive the farmers jeep so it was worth it to me.


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Dec 28, 2018 01:12:08   #
debeda
 
JFlorio wrote:
I thought bailing hay was hard unti I helped pick and hang tobacco. Of course I had to try one of those green leaves to chew. Never been that dizzy ever.


Yeah, when you think about it farmers and ranchers work their butts off as a matter of course, and EVERYONE needs them. They oughta get a LOT more credit!! And we'd have better stuff without these big conglomerates I bet!!

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