Trump’s tariffs and GM (Page 2): We will see. . The prediction is the tarriffs are going to cost familys $2400 next year. I don't think it is one bit fair for workers to suffer so the...

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

JFlorio wrote:

Not true Tom. New cars are being bought. They just aren't the bigger, less cost efficient cars other companies sell. Where are tariffs biting us. I see a lot of speculation on the future costs of tariffs but nothing yet to panic over. World News reports that the tariffs are really hurting China much more than us. Maybe a little pain for American workers and consumers is worth leveling the playing field in the future. Wait and see.

We will see. . The prediction is the tarriffs are going to cost familys $2400 next year. I don't think it is one bit fair for workers to suffer so the "playing field" will be leveled. The rich will gain the worker will lose but still be expected to carry the burden.What this country needs is a return to the basic car or pickup that anybody could work on and didn't have a lot of computerized crap that will leave you stranded. For instance in 1973 I bought a brand new Chevy Nova for $2332 sticker price. It was a three speed and a 6 cylinder and had 2 doors. Great car affordable was reliable and got over 20 mpg.

cund

bmac32 wrote:

Car sales are way way down. Overall car sales are down 30%.

The used car market is good, I would not buy a new car, the minute you leave the lot your car has dropped in value!

I do think tariffs have not really been the best idea but we have been getting the short end of the stick for years!

The big problem is how the Federal Reserve has been artificially manipulated the markets and I believe a big crash is right around the corner!

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

JFlorio wrote:

Not true Tom. New cars are being bought. They just aren't the bigger, less cost efficient cars other companies sell. Where are tariffs biting us. I see a lot of speculation on the future costs of tariffs but nothing yet to panic over. World News reports that the tariffs are really hurting China much more than us. Maybe a little pain for American workers and consumers is worth leveling the playing field in the future. Wait and see.

some people will support Trump anyway but day by day it is getting fewer and fewer

buffalo Loc: Texas

JFlorio wrote:

Not true Tom. New cars are being bought. They just aren't the bigger, less cost efficient cars other companies sell. Where are tariffs biting us. I see a lot of speculation on the future costs of tariffs but nothing yet to panic over. World News reports that the tariffs are really hurting China much more than us. Maybe a little pain for American workers and consumers is worth leveling the playing field in the future. Wait and see.

What the tariffs are doing is making the autos that Ford and GM manufacture at their foreign plants with cheap slave-like wages more expensive to import. Sales tank so, they are going to take it out on their domestic workers instead of the idiot overpaid executives.

Toyota and Honda vehicles are more American made than GM and Ford's

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

buffalo wrote:

What the tariffs are doing is making the autos that Ford and GM manufacture at their foreign plants with cheap slave-like wages more expensive to import. Sales tank so, they are going to take it out on their domestic workers instead of the idiot overpaid executives.

Toyota and Honda vehicles are more American made than GM and Ford's

tariffs is part of the reason a big part smaller companies have already shut down cause of higher cost of goods Toyota and Honda pay America workers less than GM and Ford

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

I agree, used certified is a good way to go and let someone else pay that new price $34.000 vs $18.000 is a nice saving on a 2 year old car with under 20,000 miles. Cars move slowly, few want them, it's an SUV or pickup that sell for that high price.

Tariffs level the playing field, in 1974 I bought a Thoren's turntable in London for $234 bucks, retail here was over $900 because of tariffs, I still use it today.

cund wrote:

The used car market is good, I would not buy a new car, the minute you leave the lot your car has dropped in value!

I do think tariffs have not really been the best idea but we have been getting the short end of the stick for years!

The big problem is how the Federal Reserve has been artificially manipulated the markets and I believe a big crash is right around the corner!

Pudge

They are closing plants that the Obummer Admin subsidized. Basically the Volt, which was touted by the Dems as the car of necessity. By the way, Presbo's promised to buy one, which he hasn't. uote=Kevyn]Nonsense, the cars produced by Ford and GM are fine, they are becoming overpriced due to the idiot Pumpkinfuhrers tariffs on materials used to produce them.[/quote]

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

The playing field in this case is jobs, Tom. How else do we stop all this out sourcing. Of course the playing field needs leveled. Look at the difference in car tariffs before Trump, ridiculous. That $2400 number is a projection only. Kinda like Obama saying we would save $2500 on health insurance per family. They're almost never accurate. Go back to the cheap vehicle huh? Might want to tell your global warming friends about that idea. Just the amount a company pays it's workers for health care is more than a car used to cost.

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Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

buffalo wrote:

What the tariffs are doing is making the autos that Ford and GM manufacture at their foreign plants with cheap slave-like wages more expensive to import. Sales tank so, they are going to take it out on their domestic workers instead of the idiot overpaid executives.

Toyota and Honda vehicles are more American made than GM and Ford's

Sure looks that way.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

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All right you are a pretty smart guy. . You are aware of the high miliage carburators that have been bought and never manufactured. Time to manufacture those. I had a very good friend who made a carburator that got 150 mpg. you could breath the exhaust coming out of it. He sold it because he feared for his life. It never was mass produced. Another man I knew worked on a car that was powered by compressed air. It worked but he was still in the process of getting it to go up steep hills without stopping. He was given offers to stop and he refused. He died in his shop. Something is up . What do you think?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Sounds like conspiracy but to many times things like this have happened to just be a coincidence.

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bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Something has been up for a very long time, your just seeing this. Go back and look at Tucker, the so-called big 3 made sure he went out of business.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_48

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Silent Hammer

How many times have past presidents "bailed out" Car companies? "Too Big To Fail"....lets see: Wasn't that a recent president's mantra? It doesn't really matter how FINE or crappy the cars are. Union pressure and control, competition by "foreign makers", saturation in the market, over-pricing and lobbying, ALL contribute to problems within the U.S. car industry. In 1973 it was the "gas shortage" that drove people to dump their Cadillacs and Chryslers for rice-burners and Hitler's revenge. I know you think you're a whole lot smarter than President Trump and his cabinet, Kevin, but you're delusional. He's the first PATRIOTIC, un-owned president since Ronald Reagan. And he's really SMART. So, untwist! It's more comfortable.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

and you belong to the NRA I bet

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Do you have a brain, what's the NRA have do this cars. and second try using quote reply rather than just reply.

jimpack123 wrote:

and you belong to the NRA I bet