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Mar 14, 2014 12:46:29   #
koondy3 Loc: Connecticut
 
Do you believe Sowell only says that to please his employer? I think we can agree that Thomas Sowell, being an economist and being the author of many books, is financially stable and is not in fear of standing in the soup line if he should lose his job. So, I'm trying to think of another reason he may be seeking to please his employer, if not for financial reasons. Do you think that what he says, is actually what he truly believes. Now, if a "White" person makes a statement that he believes a White person or group of White people are trying to mislead (or otherwise hurt) White people, as a whole...would that mean the person who is warning White people of these "other" unscrupulous White people, is racist in his warning? I think not. Do you? I doubt it. So, why would it be different for Mr. Sowell? It is my personal opinion, that Thomas Sowell is an intelligent man who articulates his thoughts very clearly. It seems to me that he is an honest man and that his intention is to defend his race and protect them from harm, if anything. He is a man who is respected and esteemed by people of all races. I am quite certain he is no racist. I'm sure you agree. I mean...I haven't read every word he's ever written; but I'm not aware of, nor have I ever heard of him using any racially hateful language, or that sort of thing. Hey...not all White men have the same opinion, not all brown men, not all Asian men agree with each other on everything. Why should Black men? Black men are free...not just physically; but the mind has to be free too. Thomas Sowell is a free man...he's not some magpie, who's gonna let somebody tell him he's gotta think this or that. Why should he? Why should anyone? It's your life...it's your mind...and it's your world just as much as anyone else's. Again, unless you have something specific he said that troubles you, consider what he's talking about. Maybe he's right.

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Mar 14, 2014 12:54:47   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Really? If one chooses to side with a group of people that is without complete knowledge of or compassion for the group they from is that person forgetting something or are they progressing as you say and leaving the status quo behind?
Puds wrote:
So improving one's life through effort is 'sold out?' Improving one's life is obviously for gain. Sorry your position is one of oppression. You perpetuate dependency as an enabler. You,
are a racist who believes minorities are not required to improve, or capable of improving themselves. You keep minorities suppressed. You use minorities not unlike your white and black ancestors who sold slaves and participated in slavery.

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Mar 14, 2014 13:11:15   #
autocthon Loc: Batcave
 
fom wrote:
Really? If one chooses to side with a group of people that is without complete knowledge of or compassion for the group they from is that person forgetting something or are they progressing as you say and leaving the status quo behind?


Fom: Look, nobody (especially me) writes perfect grammatical and punctuated posts. But, that being said, you really need to either re-read your posts before posting or have someone else read them for clarity of thought. This last one you posted is bewildering, to say the least.

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Mar 14, 2014 13:19:28   #
Puds Loc: So Centrl MN
 
Fool, those people are trying to fit into the status quo.
The true majority is trying to advance themselves to improve their lives. Why do people immigrate to the American economy. Because with effort there is promise. Are you blind to the Hispanic influx? Have you not seen a physician from the far east? After the fall of the former Soviet Union did you not see the people come here? No you choose not to see those people. You choose to perpetuate the idea that minorities, particularly blacks, have some right to be dependent on the rest of society. Your racist crap can't see the historical failure of "the Great Society" and the continuous decline of that part of American society that believes they are entitled to the forced generosity of mostly the middle class. Your "victims" do not have to
contribute to the family structure, virtually free education,affirmative action. Progress? Thomas Stowell,
Larry Elder, Bill Cosby, Dr. Ben Carson. If they
are willing to share their approach and beliefs for success, they are Oreos? You fools are perpetuating the problem. And
even more disgusting it makes you feel good about yourselves? Sucka!

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Mar 14, 2014 16:57:39   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
fom wrote:
Really? If one chooses to side with a group of people that is without complete knowledge of or compassion for the group they from is that person forgetting something or are they progressing as you say and leaving the status quo behind?


fom, you are truly ignorant, if anyone ever was. I have read Dr. Sowell's writings for years. Not only is he proud of his heritage, he is also very interested in raising the level of education and living for all Americans of African heritage.

Like most ill informed leftists, you recite the stupidity that the Democratic Party feeds you to get your vote. Get educated, learn what is really happening in the USA, and you will find yourself strongly considering the conservative side of politics.

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Mar 14, 2014 17:34:23   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Whether you know it or not your the racist here why do all liberals flash the race card. Duh. could it be there the racist..
fom wrote:
There are Black people with writeing talent who are working for right wing outlets and writing to please their employers. Some of what they write about puts other Blacks in a bad light. Is this an excuse to to believe statements bordering racism are ok?

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Mar 14, 2014 17:46:52   #
koondy3 Loc: Connecticut
 
1) Do you believe Sowell should "side" with his group, if he believes his group is wrong?

2) What do you believe Thomas Sowell's "group" is?

3) If Thomas Sowell believed his group was being fed poison by another member of their group, would it be good or bad to tell them?

***I'm new to this site, and I haven't been sure if some of the texts you sent were meant for me. Please put "k3" or something at the beginning, so I will know. Thanks

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Mar 14, 2014 21:45:07   #
Ricktloml
 
Just look at all the vile things that are said about black conservatives. It would appear that spewing the Democrat party line is the only acceptable response for the true racists in this society

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Mar 14, 2014 22:49:54   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
you don't get it so I won't argue with you
jimahrens wrote:
Whether you know it or not your the racist here why do all liberals flash the race card. Duh. could it be there the racist..

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Mar 14, 2014 22:51:08   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
sorry I seem to sound cryptic.. I understand your bewilderment
autocthon wrote:
Fom: Look, nobody (especially me) writes perfect grammatical and punctuated posts. But, that being said, you really need to either re-read your posts before posting or have someone else read them for clarity of thought. This last one you posted is bewildering, to say the least.

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Mar 14, 2014 22:56:15   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
You would be surprized to know I was a Bush supporter. I am considering Jimmy MCcmillan if he runs. Republicans are not going to help Blacks achieve much. ASffirmative action jobs programs etc. are something Republicans want to trim from the budget.
Trooper745 wrote:
fom, you are truly ignorant, if anyone ever was. I have read Dr. Sowell's writings for years. Not only is he proud of his heritage, he is also very interested in raising the level of education and living for all Americans of African heritage.

Like most ill informed leftists, you recite the stupidity that the Democratic Party feeds you to get your vote. Get educated, learn what is really happening in the USA, and you will find yourself strongly considering the conservative side of politics.
fom, you are truly ignorant, if anyone ever was. ... (show quote)

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Mar 14, 2014 22:57:42   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Watch how you talk to me Puds. I aint too nice.
Puds wrote:
Fool, those people are trying to fit into the status quo.
The true majority is trying to advance themselves to improve their lives. Why do people immigrate to the American economy. Because with effort there is promise. Are you blind to the Hispanic influx? Have you not seen a physician from the far east? After the fall of the former Soviet Union did you not see the people come here? No you choose not to see those people. You choose to perpetuate the idea that minorities, particularly blacks, have some right to be dependent on the rest of society. Your racist crap can't see the historical failure of "the Great Society" and the continuous decline of that part of American society that believes they are entitled to the forced generosity of mostly the middle class. Your "victims" do not have to
contribute to the family structure, virtually free education,affirmative action. Progress? Thomas Stowell,
Larry Elder, Bill Cosby, Dr. Ben Carson. If they
are willing to share their approach and beliefs for success, they are Oreos? You fools are perpetuating the problem. And
even more disgusting it makes you feel good about yourselves? Sucka!
Fool, those people are trying to fit into the stat... (show quote)

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Mar 14, 2014 23:00:21   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
You know nothing about me so you cannot pass judgement. Living on handouts is hardly the life Black citezens should have.
fom wrote:
Really? If one chooses to side with a group of people that is without complete knowledge of or compassion for the group they from is that person forgetting something or are they progressing as you say and leaving the status quo behind?

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Mar 14, 2014 23:00:31   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Don't go there affirmative action never worked and never will. Hquote=fom]You would be surprized to know I was a Bush supporter. I am considering Jimmy MCcmillan if he runs. Republicans are not going to help Blacks achieve much. ASffirmative action jobs programs etc. are something Republicans want to trim from the budget.[/quote]

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Mar 14, 2014 23:05:04   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The truth is the truth. Do you wish to silence a writer because they write something you do not like or disagree? Controlling a person's words........ what is right about that? Or is it only important when the Liberal/Progressives do not like what another writes? Did you expect that the Negros would just step in line? Many of them are exceptionally bright and they figure out what is good or bad for our country.

by the way, you might want to use spell check ..... writeing vice writing

fom wrote:
There are Black people with writeing talent who are working for right wing outlets and writing to please their employers. Some of what they write about puts other Blacks in a bad light. Is this an excuse to to believe statements bordering racism are ok?

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