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Flat Earthers and Climate change disbelievers educate yourselves
Mar 12, 2014 16:46:03 #
Dave
Loc: Upstate New York
permafrost wrote:
You do pose some tuff questions...... br br Clima... (show quote)
By the very term "climate change" one can understands that climate will change. Change is not the argument, predicting the change is. Reading past signs is clear evidence that climate changed in the past. Assuming those signs are predictive of what changes will take place in the future is a mistake often make by stock investors, that is why pragmatic prognosticators warn that past performance is not a guarentee of future performance. There are many variable that will effect tomorrow's weather and a whole lot more that will effect the next 50 years's climate - and nobody "knows" how many of those variable are even known, let alone the weight to put on each of them in making predictions.
Your comment on Peabody Coal vs. EPA is an opinion - I do remember some of the same folks who knew so much before who stopped nuclear power development, thereby having some of the responsibility for the Peabody victims -
How many victims of GM are dead because of the auto? That game can go on forever - but again I suggest taking the known and comparing against the maybe - and applying a tad of humility in the process.
Mar 12, 2014 16:47:13 #
Dave
Loc: Upstate New York
permafrost wrote:
Oh so simple, reduce the CO2 out put. That was the start of this thread several pages ago...
That is and has been ongoing -so all we have to do is the same things we've been doing while avoiding the enormous waste of taxpayer resources in the process.
Mar 12, 2014 16:48:37 #
Dave
Loc: Upstate New York
permafrost wrote:
You have a strange logic chain in your brain...Most would see them as separate and unrelated statements..
It was you who introducedthe 6,000 year issue - as if that was a common belief among those who are skeptical about the extent of man made climate change - now you want to assign that to me?
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Mar 12, 2014 16:52:31 #
Dave
Loc: Upstate New York
permafrost wrote:
Try this. The information is a bit hard to find an... (show quote)
You are a trusting sole - almost cute - you think China is going to do all that that quickly and do so with only 7.8 billion bucks.
Mar 12, 2014 17:08:30 #
Dave wrote:
It was you who introducedthe 6,000 year issue - as if that was a common belief among those who are skeptical about the extent of man made climate change - now you want to assign that to me?
No not to you, it was an echo from another poster..
Mar 12, 2014 17:09:33 #
Dave wrote:
You are a trusting sole - almost cute - you think China is going to do all that that quickly and do so with only 7.8 billion bucks.
I judge not, it is only what a source had to say...
Mar 12, 2014 17:15:28 #
Dave wrote:
That is and has been ongoing -so all we have to do is the same things we've been doing while avoiding the enormous waste of taxpayer resources in the process.
I think we should work much harder on the clean environment, what we are doing is good but we need less foot dragging and more hop to it...
What taxpayer resources should we change? I think we could much better afford other areas of cutback. Such as wasted effort and money in the education dept, war on drugs, homeland security, and militarizing the police among others...
Mar 12, 2014 17:20:47 #
Dave wrote:
By the very term "climate change" one ca... (show quote)
You have no chance to see the future unless you know what happened in the past.. Finding trends is the need to know for climatologists..
FYI...I wanted clean coal to happen, it would have been a fine answer to so many energy problems...
The first anti-nuck power I ever knew was a Hungarian refugee that I worked with on construction one summer. one of the smartest guys I ever met and he tossed gas cocktails at Russian tanks.. Very interesting guy...
Mar 12, 2014 17:53:58 #
buffalo wrote:
As I said, it is about money and fucking the taxpa... (show quote)
its all about cap and trade we are going to get really hurt when this comes about.
Mar 12, 2014 18:16:05 #
permafrost wrote:
You do pose some tuff questions...... br br Clima... (show quote)
what does thet have to do with global w
Mar 12, 2014 18:26:48 #
Dave wrote:
None of the signatories to Kyoto meet the requirements of it - none of them have renewed it since it ran out - and it was defeated in the US Senate by a vote of 99-0 - other than that it was great theater.
hell even bill clinton was against it.im sure these so called scientist are for it ,i mean they have their millions in grants to protect.
Mar 12, 2014 19:24:50 #
"As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease."
Genesis 8:22
And fyi, that same Bible says the earth is round;-)
Job 26:10
Proverbs 8:27
Isaiah 40:22
Amos 9:6
Genesis 8:22
And fyi, that same Bible says the earth is round;-)
Job 26:10
Proverbs 8:27
Isaiah 40:22
Amos 9:6
Mar 12, 2014 19:58:36 #
you can argue this forever but you can,t control the weather. can barely predict it.when everybody in the world goes back to riding a horse,put electric and hydrogen cars in use exclusively, then you might make a dent in this problem.where are the solutions.bye the way, this is the worst winter globally in years.
Mar 12, 2014 20:41:45 #
saveamerica
Loc: Texas
Come on Kevyn, I cannot believe that you even think this crap is real. Our earth has had declining temperatures for 20 years now. Global Warming is a fraud and what is happening is the temperature changes that happens naturally here on earth. The temperatures have always change on earth from the beginning of time and it is not different today.
Mar 12, 2014 21:02:08 #
fom wrote:
Green land was Green at the time the Vikings first arrived. the established farms and thrived. after about 400 years there was a cooling and the Vikings died out. the last remaining Vikings were taken by a Dutch slave ship. Warming and cooling happens. This is about man caused warming now.
Funny how the people who care the most about Global Warming are people who will either benefit from the green subsidies fighting it will bring or those who are immune to the absolute wreakage the fight will inflict on America. Anyone remember the 4 million green jobs Obama created? Neither do I. Tell me, do those on unemployment care about Global Warming, well do they?
Now my Global Warming friends, can I call you that, what will you do about Brazil, Russia, China, and India? Any reduction in CO2 emissions from the US will be cancelled out by increases from these nations. How loud will Comrade Vlad of Russia laugh in your face when you slap a carbon tax on his Russian backside?
Lastly you guys all remember Western Europe? The Global Warmiest believing place east of California. Well it turns out that Europe is rolling back it's greenhouse gas limits. Impossible you say? But Santa Claus, why? Well kiddies, they are losing industry and jobs because of the war on Global Warming.
It turns out that unemployed people in Europe do not give a crap about the planet and Global Warming anymore than elsewhere.
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