permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Dave, you and I will never change the others mind. Perhaps you should identify central being of you religion and pray that you are right and I am wrong... Now that I think of it, that would be fine with me, if that was the fact...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Oh so simple, reduce the CO2 out put. That was the start of this thread several pages ago...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You have a strange logic chain in your brain...Most would see them as separate and unrelated statements..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Is it the "chem trails" that you feel control the weather? We used to have rainmakers bringing rain for a fee.. Now the only rain makers work in law offices...

Loki Loc: Georgia

NOW you understand. The US is responsible for a small amount of these emissions. This was enough to give the EPA carte blanche to destroy the coal industry.

vernon

i think youll find that aircraft is the problem with high altitude co2 and that was noticed when 911 occured and aircraft were grounded for a week.
now i think that it would be better to ground flying than starve everyone on earth

vernon

vernon

ale bore has been saying that we had 10yrs for the last 30 yrs.

dukeofsc

the same "SCIENTIST" who wish to have ultimate rule over all make stuff up as they go, since the dawn of man, remember the incredible edible egg argument, at one time in our recent history, egg bad-no eatum egg, then a while later "oh eggs are fundamental for your health, then bad, then good, if your so concerned about the weather then do your own research and you'll see how dem sam scientizt lie and cheat the numbers to fit they insane theory's if and when the fit takes them. especially in this climate change crapolla, they got caught red handed, just like the POTUS has so many time cheating the books, nuff said on the stupid weather doom and gloom, its bogus plan and simple. no flat anything too it, by the by, them scientists back in the day were the ones claiming the earth was flat too???




Breath deep
The gathering gloom
Watch lights fade
From every room
Bedsitter people
Look back and lament
Another day's useless
Energy spent

Impassioned lovers
Wrestle as one
Lonely man cries for love
And has none
New mother picks up
And suckles her son
Senior citizens
Wish they were young

Cold hearted orb
That rules the night
Removes the colours
From our sight
Red is gray and
Yellow white

THIS LAST LINE SAYS IT BEST "WE DECIDE"


But we decide
Which is right
And
Which is an Illusion

buffalo Loc: Texas

As I said, it is about money and fucking the taxpayers. The EPA is an out of control fed agency with an agenda, their destruction of the coal industry was not about guilt it was about furthering their agenda.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06/top-obama-epa-official-admits-to-plan-to-destroy-the-coal-industry-in-america-video/

What I said was IF the science is so settled why not go after the guilty culprits like China, Russia, etc? China may just be paying lip service to the climate change idiots just to placate them and then do what it pleases.

It's more about money than a spotlessly clean earth.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/4-reasons-why-environmentalists-are-wrong-about-energy-2014-01-03

http://guardianlv.com/2014/02/climate-change-proponents-hard-to-take-seriously/

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

I am an agnostic as to a deity as I am an agnostic to man made climate change as I am an agnostic that even if man made climate change is true, Al Gore and his ilk have reasonable responses.

As to praying about me being right - you might try a tad of agnosticism that takes a tad of humility.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

some rainmakers danced for it - probably as effective in changing the weather as some of the environmentalists

saloopo Loc: Colorado

[quote=dukeofsc]the same "SCIENTIST" who wish to have ultimate rule over all make stuff up as they go, since the dawn of man, remember the incredible edible egg argument, at one time in our recent history, egg bad-no eatum egg, then a while later "oh eggs are fundamental for your health, then bad, then good, if your so concerned about the weather then do your own research and you'll see how dem sam scientizt lie and cheat the numbers to fit they insane theory's if and when the fit takes them. especially in this climate change crapolla, they got caught red handed, just like the POTUS has so many time cheating the books, nuff said on the stupid weather doom and gloom, its bogus plan and simple. no flat anything too it, by the by, them scientists back in the day were the ones claiming the earth was flat too???



The Global Warming Ecoscam has proven that there are plenty of PhDs who will support any crazy lie as long as it has the right ideological stamp and enough grant money attached to it.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

So, predicting weather over the next few days is harder than predicting major climate change over a longer time - other than your personal faith in such a theory, what evidence can you present for others, less inclined to your blind faith?

I don't know if man made climate change is true or not, nor do I know if it is true that all of the impacts will be as devastating as some predict - but I do know that the higher standards of living that have become possible largely due to lower and lower costs of energy has been a boon to the quality and length of human life. That would lead me to suspect that reversing the trend regarding to living standards would lessen the quality and quantity of human life.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You do pose some tuff questions......

Climate change deals in trends over time. We do not need to know what the weather may be in a specific area at a particular time. We need to things such as what the overall temperature was during a span of decades.. Was there a rise in temperature, participation, were plants under stress, was growth of trees faster of slower. These are revealed via collected data... The more data the more accurate projections can be... the Climate projections are about trends over a period of time. IE that in several decades the moisture pattern in the upper plains will likely be more or less than it was 50 yrs ago.. Computer programs can pose and simulate questions and likely results... The great lakes were 90% frozen over this year, will that effect rain patterns this spring...

Weather is more of a problem because we want results for today... Is Oklahoma going to have a tornado because of the cold from Canada meeting the hot most air from the golf today, tomorrow, when? Is the jet stream shifting now? Will it do so next week? Will Minnesota ever melt its snow pack in time to grow peas? No room for mistakes, that darn weather guy better have it right...

If we want any chance of maintaining that high standard of living and long life we had better care for our environment and clean the damn thing... Peabody coal inc, killed more minors and injured more health then the EPA ever will...