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Mar 12, 2014 08:15:34   #
Loveniston
 
I wouldn't worry about a key accidently getting hit added deleted whichever...unless grossly misspelled...or construed the meaning. If it wasn't beating in the back forty..concerns but seeing how its not a published issue or even a fastward in email...I will absolutely get no sleep worrying if my keyboard needs replacing a new eye dog or new specs...didn't specialize in secretarial work in college.
What would concern me is if I'm all up in a topic/discussion/cut down/throw out/dog fight and I have no idea why what who where or when...there's a lot of differences on who is the blunder of the day...can't catch them all...but just a horrifying number of military folk seem to be in a tunnel/fog/confusion of their presidents their timelines who did what. beat down on our first black president in history and has done an outstanding job considering bush has taken us billions in negative side of the zero...when the great America falters so will the world..ripple effect...financial ruins...Obama's administration has only met resistance with the rep...they will gridlock with obamas administration ever chance they can...regardless of the issue. Bushs' era of catastrophic leadership has depleted our country into at least three generation of payback...my version of payback to all we are war: is this if your standing on the ground be thankful because there will not be any financial gain from this country, we are not building you back nor giving you a master economic plan of any kind. They have given this country away enough... They..republicans has sold America to china, japan and heck whoever wanting a piece. China owns more of America than the American...and it was not Obama. If they had stopped with the choke hold on Obama's every turn, he would have accomplished much more. In his first term he carried out what he promised on his platform presentation. Bring our men home.. he said he would and he did. America has forgotten? Kill Bin Laden and they did plus all his associates...he came in very strong...with a mission in his heart...the repubs seen his determination his abilities as a leader...strength even though he inherited all the horrid twisted lying affairs built by 18 yrs of bushes' misleading cabinets n parties. When Bill Clinton left the white house America was million upon millions ahead of the game...bush ran through it so fast it was spent in less than two years...Twin Towers...every American should be grateful we got a president in that found the evil master mind laden and killed him n cohorts it would have always felt undone



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Mar 12, 2014 08:17:40   #
1OldGeezer
 
Loveniston wrote:
YES RIGHT WING FANATICS WILL SAY ANYTHING I STILL LOOK FOR AN INTELLECTUAL PERSON THAT CAN BACK UP WITH ...I DONT MEAN TO BE SO SO FACTUAL BUT THE IGNORANCE OF THESE POSTING ARE AN INSULT JUST TO READ MOST OF THEM...NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE SIMPLE BASIC WORD MEANING...BET YOU WENT TO SCHOOL ON THE 'SHORT BUS,' THE ARISTICATS DID WIN REALLY BIG WHEN THEY FOOL MOST OF THE SUCKERHEADS WHEN THEY THREW THAT BIG SMOOKING BOMB OF REPUBLICANS--CONVERSATIVES AND DEMOCRATS LIBERALS...THROW AND ADJECTIVE BY A NOUN AND WATCH THE IGNORANCE FALL OUT BOTH SIDES OF THEIR MOUTHS...THE BEGINNINGS OF THE WORST SMOKING MIRROW BY THE REP...WE'LL CALL OURSELVES THE MORAL, UPSTANDING CITIZENS AND GIVE A NEW MEANING TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND WATCH THE FOOLS RUN TO OUR SIDE IN DROVES...,YOU BUNCH OF LO FILITHY LYING SUMSUCKING PIGS...YOUR GREEDY FILTHY LYING MOUTHS TURNED WAY TO MANY TO WANT TO SAY INTO A VOTING REP TICKET THAT BY NATIONAL STANDARDS WOULDNT GO PAST A REGULAR MIDDLE CLASS CITIZEN...OH I KNOW YOU CAN NOT DISTIGUISH THE DIFFERENCE...THE REPUBLICANS...THE FUCKING REAL ONE...NOT ON TV...DUMB DUMB...ARE THE ARISTICRATS THAT MAKE YOU GO STOP IN THE MUD FOR THEM WORK LIKE A SLAVE FOR PENNIES AND SEND ANY AND EVERYTHING PSSST THAT BUISNESSES TOO DEAR DUMBOO OVER TO THE LAND WE JUST KICKASS AND LET THEM WORK FOR .05 A DAY WHILE THE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS ARE SQUEEZED OUT...TAKE A BIG BREATH...ITS HARD ON YOU SIMPLITONS TO COMPREHEND...HAVE YOU TRIED THE SYLVIAN LEARNING CENTER FOR THE MENALLY CHALLENGED? AND THE POOR..WELL THEY NON OF ANYONE OF THEIR CONCERNS AND ANYONE WHO VOTES A REPUBLICAN IN OFFICE...ESPECIALLY SINCE ANOTHER FUCKWAD ECONOMICALLY DEVISTATED THE WORLD AGAIN...YOU DAMN STRAIGHT MONKEY BRAIN PICK UP A FUCKING BOOK...NOW I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A FINCTIONAL BOOK..I KNOW THAT'S APPARENT ITS ALL YOU READ BUT THEY DO MAKE BOOKS WITH REFERENCES AND FACTS!! YES THEY HAVE BEEN IN CIRCULATIONS SINCE IDIOTS LIKE YOU CANT READ OR COMPREHEND..DAMN ITS HARD BEING SOOOO RIGHT ALL THE TIME...BUT I MUST FINISH Y REPLY TO YOU LESS FORTUNATES...JUST BECUASE THEY CALLED THEMSELVES RIGHTEOUS DIDNT MEAN THEY WERE...THEY TRICK YOU ALL...NOW GUESS WHAT??? TOO MUCH STRAIN ON YOU BRAIN?? YOU ALL ARE FEEDING IN ONE ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIES IN RECORDED TIME...THE TRULY RICH PEOPLE ARE GAINING SO MUCH POWER I AM WAITING ON ONE OF THOSE RICH BITCHES TO POP OUT THE DONKEY DEMON ANYTIME..NAME IT THE SECOND COMING ...TAKE ITS SPOT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL BOW DOWN CROWN THE MONSTER AND GEAR IT UP FOR ANOTHER DISASTEROUS WAR IN THE NAME OF THEIRSELVES...HOW DO YOU LIKE THE TRUTH SO FAR??? IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN I JUST CAN ONLY SAY BECAUSE I WILL ALWAYS BE AROUND JUST FOR YOU PATHETIC FOLK TO SAY WRONG AND REP WILL NEVER GET IT RIGHT B/C THEY HAVE A BUSH/ROMNEY MINDSET...AND DON'T THROW UP THAT HORRID ACTOR RAGAN..HE WANTS SOME OLD FUCKING WALL TORN DOWN THAT DONT MEAN A HILL OF BEANS...GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! THE RICH WILL ALWAYS BE JUST THAT AND DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE...STUPID MORNONS GET A DAMN CLUE
YES RIGHT WING FANATICS WILL SAY ANYTHING I STILL ... (show quote)


Loveniston,
So much hate is revealed here,
Seriously...I'm concerned, Consider getting help with your condition so you can think straight.
1oldgeezer

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Mar 12, 2014 08:24:38   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
AuntiE wrote:
If memory serves, the US has some of the lowest emissions in the world. How do you propose to issue edicts on this matter to China or India or others? Do you believe they give a flip what we or anyone tells them on this matter?

The USGS has stated the overall temperature has NOT increased for fifteen years and appears it will not for some time. In fact, it is believed we may be entering a "mini" ice age.


Good morning AuntiE, The US has the technology and the money to require low emissions. We control each individual quite well, but collectively, we are still the largest polluter in the world. One of the reasons the US refused to signe the Kaoyta (that city in Japan) treaty a number of years ago that included most of the worlds industrial nations, was due to that fact, we would pay much more into cleanup then the emerging nations.

China and India both are creating large and effective pollution control systems. China has suspended building coal fired power plants, moving to natural gas and has the largest solar collector mfg in the world.. The cheap small solar electric panels sold at the home centers are from China.. China is so badly effected by pollution that they shut down all the plants that would have affected the Olympics they had 2 yrs ago. They have health problems from air quality so severe that all 3 of the major modernized areas in the nation have had slow downs in production of computers and electronics...

India was the poster boy for starting the EPA when they were the victim of the largest air pollution tragedy in history. That was not lost on their country and work is going on to clean up the nation..

Other nations may not care about our problems, but when the pollution kills their own and costs them money, they run to fix it and that is happening in China and India as we speak..

Not familiar with USGS reports on climate..But as was clearly stated, 2005 and 2010 were the hottest years we have recorded world wide.. Lot of reports are local and these jump all over the charts, but when all are collected for the wide world, the trend is very clear, the world is getting warmer...

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Mar 12, 2014 08:29:21   #
teapartygeorgep
 
Oh I thought it said "...Climate change 'BELIEVERS" educate yourselves"

Everybody knows the world is flat, except in hilly areas, of course. Sheesh.

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Mar 12, 2014 09:05:56   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
1OldGeezer wrote:
Loveniston,
So much hate is revealed here,
Seriously...I'm concerned, Consider getting help with your condition so you can think straight.
1oldgeezer


Who in the HELL is this person? I have never seen such an exhibition of ignorance while accusing everyone else of same. The first two sentences of the post were run on, and completely nonsensical. "Aristocrat" was used twice, and misspelled two different ways. "Smooking?" "Conversatives?" "Mirrow?" "Distigiush?" Sumsucking?" "Simplitons?" "Menally" challenged? "Devistated?" "Disasterous?" Not to mention my personal favorite; "mornons." I don't have the time or inclination to start a critique of the myriad of grammatical errors in syntax and punctuation. Who wrote this; a bi-polar fourth grader?

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Mar 12, 2014 09:19:30   #
Patty
 
banjojack wrote:
Who in the HELL is this person? I have never seen such an exhibition of ignorance while accusing everyone else of same. The first two sentences of the post were run on, and completely nonsensical. "Aristocrat" was used twice, and misspelled two different ways. "Smooking?" "Conversatives?" "Mirrow?" "Distigiush?" Sumsucking?" "Simplitons?" "Menally" challenged? "Devistated?" "Disasterous?" Not to mention my personal favorite; "mornons." I don't have the time or inclination to start a critique of the myriad of grammatical errors in syntax and punctuation. Who wrote this; a bi-polar fourth grader?
Who in the HELL is this person? I have never seen ... (show quote)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Mar 12, 2014 09:31:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
banjojack wrote:
Who in the HELL is this person? I have never seen such an exhibition of ignorance while accusing everyone else of same. The first two sentences of the post were run on, and completely nonsensical. "Aristocrat" was used twice, and misspelled two different ways. "Smooking?" "Conversatives?" "Mirrow?" "Distigiush?" Sumsucking?" "Simplitons?" "Menally" challenged? "Devistated?" "Disasterous?" Not to mention my personal favorite; "mornons." I don't have the time or inclination to start a critique of the myriad of grammatical errors in syntax and punctuation. Who wrote this; a bi-polar fourth grader?
Who in the HELL is this person? I have never seen ... (show quote)


Could not say it better...

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Mar 12, 2014 09:53:54   #
vernon
 
Patty wrote:
:thumbup: How these people can believe this crap and not question the revised addition speech that Obama gave at the end of the Iraqi war stating that it was to free the Iraqi people from the tyrant and install democracy I will never know.
Yea we spent 3 trillion dollars to dethrone a guy we put into office. Sure, that's it. :roll:


this climate change it nothing more then a campain for cap and trade.

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Mar 12, 2014 09:57:19   #
Patty
 
:thumbup:

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Mar 12, 2014 10:25:42   #
vernon
 
Loveniston wrote:
I wouldn't worry about a key accidently getting hit added deleted whichever...unless grossly misspelled...or construed the meaning. If it wasn't beating in the back forty..concerns but seeing how its not a published issue or even a fastward in email...I will absolutely get no sleep worrying if my keyboard needs replacing a new eye dog or new specs...didn't specialize in secretarial work in college.
What would concern me is if I'm all up in a topic/discussion/cut down/throw out/dog fight and I have no idea why what who where or when...there's a lot of differences on who is the blunder of the day...can't catch them all...but just a horrifying number of military folk seem to be in a tunnel/fog/confusion of their presidents their timelines who did what. beat down on our first black president in history and has done an outstanding job considering bush has taken us billions in negative side of the zero...when the great America falters so will the world..ripple effect...financial ruins...Obama's administration has only met resistance with the rep...they will gridlock with obamas administration ever chance they can...regardless of the issue. Bushs' era of catastrophic leadership has depleted our country into at least three generation of payback...my version of payback to all we are war: is this if your standing on the ground be thankful because there will not be any financial gain from this country, we are not building you back nor giving you a master economic plan of any kind. They have given this country away enough... They..republicans has sold America to china, japan and heck whoever wanting a piece. China owns more of America than the American...and it was not Obama. If they had stopped with the choke hold on Obama's every turn, he would have accomplished much more. In his first term he carried out what he promised on his platform presentation. Bring our men home.. he said he would and he did. America has forgotten? Kill Bin Laden and they did plus all his associates...he came in very strong...with a mission in his heart...the repubs seen his determination his abilities as a leader...strength even though he inherited all the horrid twisted lying affairs built by 18 yrs of bushes' misleading cabinets n parties. When Bill Clinton left the white house America was million upon millions ahead of the game...bush ran through it so fast it was spent in less than two years...Twin Towers...every American should be grateful we got a president in that found the evil master mind laden and killed him n cohorts it would have always felt undone
I wouldn't worry about a key accidently getting hi... (show quote)


you come on hear about facts but all you spout is democrat radical bs.bush is gone but you still cant see anything that that is bad your just a demorat that almost tries to sound reasonable.

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Mar 12, 2014 10:31:52   #
jay-are
 
banjojack wrote:
Who in the HELL is this person? I have never seen such an exhibition of ignorance while accusing everyone else of same. The first two sentences of the post were run on, and completely nonsensical. "Aristocrat" was used twice, and misspelled two different ways. "Smooking?" "Conversatives?" "Mirrow?" "Distigiush?" Sumsucking?" "Simplitons?" "Menally" challenged? "Devistated?" "Disasterous?" Not to mention my personal favorite; "mornons." I don't have the time or inclination to start a critique of the myriad of grammatical errors in syntax and punctuation. Who wrote this; a bi-polar fourth grader?
Who in the HELL is this person? I have never seen ... (show quote)


I think it might be that Loveniston is in a Muslim terrorist cell, and he is using this forum to convey encoded messages to his cohorts. That might explain the grammatical nonsense.

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Mar 12, 2014 10:43:20   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
MrEd wrote:
You need to read your history books more. Greenland was named such because the Vikings did not want a bunch of people moving into Iceland, which is what they wanted and MUCH nicer then Greenland ever was. In fact, they are STILL there today. They reversed the names and the people that went to Greenland said if the weather is like this in Greenland, Iceland must really be bad and went back home. I learned this in 6th grade history class, but I guess they don't teach anything today, just lies about mGlobal Warming. You may as well believe in Santa as believe that garbage.
You need to read your history books more. Greenlan... (show quote)


I may not be a native Scandinavian but during the Viking age they had an over population problem partially do to a several hundred year era of global warming. The word Viking is not a noun it is a verb meaning to go exploring.

I will use it as a noun here to make it easier. The Viking saga was all about finding new lands to colonize like northern France, Scotland, Greenland and Nova Scotia.

Because of the warmer climate places like Greenland were habitable for several hundred years but as it grew colder again (natural cycle) they eventually had to abandon many of the areas they had been inhabiting like Greenland and North America.

And for the record I have studied the Kensington Rune stone and some of the new scientic evidence strongly suggests that it is real.

There are many types of pollutants being put into the atmosphere some more dangerous than others.

I am not sure exactly what more the Eco extreme advocates wish to achieve. As I have expressed many times here on OPP we have eliminated all harmful exhaust from all on road diesel vehicle since 2011 and all off road as of this year 2014. Gasoline engine vehicle exhaust has been cleaned up by over 75% since the 70's. We have found new ways to extract very clean burning natural gas to heat our homes, cook our food and generate electricity.

In other words we have done it, we have succeeded in becoming a world leader in reducing global warming gas emissions into the atmosphere.

What I find difficult though is you have one group of environmentalists demanding we retrofit our wood burning stoves to natural gas and another group demanding we stop using new technologies to extract natural gas from the ground. Seriously people ???

So Kevin it doesn't really matter what you or I think or do from here we have done about as much as we can do here in America. Go talk to the BRICS countries about their emissions.

Though I am quite sure Denmark would be very happy if Greenland thawed out a little since it is there territory.

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Mar 12, 2014 10:47:14   #
vernon
 
permafrost wrote:
Good morning AuntiE, The US has the technology and the money to require low emissions. We control each individual quite well, but collectively, we are still the largest polluter in the world. One of the reasons the US refused to signe the Kaoyta (that city in Japan) treaty a number of years ago that included most of the worlds industrial nations, was due to that fact, we would pay much more into cleanup then the emerging nations.

China and India both are creating large and effective pollution control systems. China has suspended building coal fired power plants, moving to natural gas and has the largest solar collector mfg in the world.. The cheap small solar electric panels sold at the home centers are from China.. China is so badly effected by pollution that they shut down all the plants that would have affected the Olympics they had 2 yrs ago. They have health problems from air quality so severe that all 3 of the major modernized areas in the nation have had slow downs in production of computers and electronics...

India was the poster boy for starting the EPA when they were the victim of the largest air pollution tragedy in history. That was not lost on their country and work is going on to clean up the nation..

Other nations may not care about our problems, but when the pollution kills their own and costs them money, they run to fix it and that is happening in China and India as we speak..

Not familiar with USGS reports on climate..But as was clearly stated, 2005 and 2010 were the hottest years we have recorded world wide.. Lot of reports are local and these jump all over the charts, but when all are collected for the wide world, the trend is very clear, the world is getting warmer...
Good morning AuntiE, The US has the technology and... (show quote)


well how do you propose to fix it ,another big tax,because that is what your demorat friends in washington are after.

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Mar 12, 2014 10:55:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
vernon wrote:
well how do you propose to fix it ,another big tax,because that is what your demorat friends in washington are after.


What tax would that be? I am no more a tax fan than anyone else.... They are necessary to run the nation but we clearly have more than needed when we can fund other nations industry but not fund our own unemployed.... I may not agree with your thinking but that does not mean I am happy with all of what our govt. is doing by a long shot...

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Mar 12, 2014 10:58:06   #
vernon
 
permafrost wrote:
What tax would that be? I am no more a tax fan than anyone else.... They are necessary to run the nation but we clearly have more than needed when we can fund other nations industry but not fund our own unemployed.... I may not agree with your thinking but that does not mean I am happy with all of what our govt. is doing by a long shot...


well your about to see the mother of all taxes when they push cap and trade on us,and that is what this is all about

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