No Matter...tilll it matters (Page 10): I cannot answer your question, just agree with your premise. This is why I left the church. I still believe in God, and pray; but the negativity...

grace scott

skott wrote:

I'm a Christian who can read. I am also fairly lib... (show quote)

I cannot answer your question, just agree with your premise. This is why I left the church. I still believe in God, and pray; but the negativity in his house sickens me.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

banjojack wrote:

I can call myself a three headed Martian; it doesn't make me one. I could call myself an honest politician.... No, wait, the Martian thing is more believable.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: LOVE it!!

vernon

skott wrote:

It was a good comment. So we should teach them to fish, but we still feed them while we are teaching them. I'm all for that. I don't advocate just letting people stay at home. Our current welfare system has many problems that could be cured. The problem is the cures aren't allowed, by people who just want it gone.

how do you teach someone who dosent want to learn?i remember a girl who the company hired she made top dollar at the time about 18$hr and she quit so she could be with her kids.she said she was better off on welfare and f stamps.now why should she be getting a check from the govt.

Ve'hoe

I will tell you that I dont committ the sin of condemning my fellow man, like you do!!

Please tell me that you are not really too stupid to get what I was saying???

Blacksheep wrote:

Would you care to tell us which sins you commit? Go ahead, we'll wait while you draw up the list. :D

skott Loc: Bama

Blacksheep wrote:

Would you care to tell us which sins you commit? Go ahead, we'll wait while you draw up the list. :D

Like most true Christians, its easier to tell which sins I have not committed. I have not Murdered. I still love God and place him above all others. I haven't carved any images of false gods. Mostly I see the good in people and love them as I love myself. Haven't stolen anything. But I have sinned. Show me anyone who hasn't.

skott Loc: Bama

vernon wrote:

how do you teach someone who dosent want to learn?i remember a girl who the company hired she made top dollar at the time about 18$hr and she quit so she could be with her kids.she said she was better off on welfare and f stamps.now why should she be getting a check from the govt.

She shouldn't. That doesn't mean that all the others shouldn't.
And you just can't cure stupidity.

skott Loc: Bama

grace scott wrote:

I cannot answer your question, just agree with your premise. This is why I left the church. I still believe in God, and pray; but the negativity in his house sickens me.

I don't leave because they are not completely bad, just wrong. And if I don't try to show them better, who will?

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

teaman wrote:

br br KEEP JESUS OUT OF YOUR SOCIALISM br br Fr... (show quote)

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:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: A beautiful and well stated and reasonable comment. If people cannot grasp what it is all about, they obviously have an intense desire NOT TO. Pay no heed to any insults hurled you way. You are doing exactly as I would expect a good Christian to do in your explanation, not that you need any kudos - you have still earned some. I don't see myself as a Christian, but I do see you as one, and I say "God bless" good and true Christians. Their religion has held our nation together for decades upon decades.

vernon

i didnt say all but there is a definate lack of work ethic and it is exploited by govt.

skott wrote:

She shouldn't. That doesn't mean that all the others shouldn't.
And you just can't cure stupidity.

Blacksheep

Ve'hoe wrote:

I will tell you that I dont committ the sin of condemning my fellow man, like you do!!

Please tell me that you are not really too stupid to get what I was saying???

Every single time on this forum, when a political question is posed, the superstition-mongering, self-described "religious" moronic jackasses quickly turn it into their praises for the ineffable and unprovable, thereby destroying any further discussion that might have possibly been at least a little cogent.

Why don't you believers in spirits and Yours Is The Only True Way go take a good crap for yourselves while those who want to actually stick to the thread are allowed to do so? Instead of corrupting every single conversation?

vernon

skott wrote:

It wasn't free in the 1950's, was my point. I totally failed to get my point across. We still paid for it then.
If you think that health care didn't have problems before Obama or the government, then you could not be more wrong. How many other businesses do you purchase from without any idea of what the bill will be? That goes back farther than either of us can remember, too.

in the 50s i paid 5.00$ for a dr. visit now it cost anywhere from 100.$ to 250$ and i really think its because of govt.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

skott wrote:

Tasine, read the post on page 9 by a conservative. He just made the same case that I talked about my conservative friends making. He told why we should not be truly helping the poor. He had to pick and choose from the Bible verses to get there.

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I carefully read teaman's comment and I think it was absolutely beautiful and right on target.

You are either confused or lying when you say, "He told why we should not be truly helping the poor." He did not sway, nor did he infer; that "we should not be truly helping the poor." He specified, specifically said GOVERNMENT should not be forcing citizens to do the will of God. It is not government's business. It is individuals and churches business. It is anyone's business to help the poor - but not at the wrong end of a gun! There is NOTHING religious, NOTHING good about forcefully robbing people, as all governments do.

The left, and specifically YOU, call Christians hypocrites and say they hate the poor, and you have based it on their conservative thinking. I frankly wonder if you have fallen so far from reality that you will never be able to accept Christians or conservatives as good people. I believe you have been so totally brainwashed that there may be no hope for you, and that is sad. Eventually you will have a price to pay. The people who brainwashed you are NO GOOD, and they couldn't care less if you live or die. They are totally self-centered and are determined to control EVERYONE in EVERY respect. I beg you, for your sake and your family's - seek 1-2 true conservatives and see if you can make a true friendship with them. If you can, you will always wonder how you made it without them.

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

ginnyt wrote:

I do hope you are not using Chrome.... that applic... (show quote)

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Retired669

Blacksheep wrote:

Every single time on this forum, when a political ... (show quote)

Something I agree with! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

skott wrote:

Like most true Christians, its easier to tell which sins I have not committed. I have not Murdered. I still love God and place him above all others. I haven't carved any images of false gods. Mostly I see the good in people and love them as I love myself. Haven't stolen anything. But I have sinned. Show me anyone who hasn't.

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You love others as you love yourself? Didn't you mean to say you love them as long as they are not Christian conservatives? Or you love them as long as you can control them?