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Mar 10, 2014 11:01:52   #
vernon
 
fom wrote:
I don't know about repeal but improvemrnt I am all for. We need more empasis on life skills and athleteic programs are underfunded.



the max a teacher should be paid is 75.$ an hr and only after he or she has proven their ability.they should have to contribute to their retirement also.and can only retire after 30 yrs service.

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Mar 10, 2014 11:30:21   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
$75 an hour is more than my plumber costs me. and 30 years is a long time. other occupations have retirement programs after 20 and even 10 years. Teachers need to prove up. some just sit in the classroom waiting for the day to end. Good teachers get involved and the students like them. With a high salary why not contribute part of your retirement?Some of my teachers needed medals pinned on them Like my 8th grade teacher who was shot in the chest in front of me and my music teacher who was carried out of the class room in a straight jacket. Indian kids are mean
vernon wrote:
the max a teacher should be paid is 75.$ an hr and only after he or she has proven their ability.they should have to contribute to their retirement also.and can only retire after 30 yrs service.

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Mar 10, 2014 11:35:54   #
vernon
 
you will get much more than the average working person i think it just boils down to pure greed .and most working people have to work 40 yrs for a retire ment .you need to go out and work for a living.how many people do any on opp make 75 $an hour.as far as teachers having a hard time with kids and some getting killed ive seen people burned to death and seen them fall to their death from high structures so dont look for sympathy from a person who worked in real life.
fom wrote:
$75 an hour is more than my plumber costs me. and 30 years is a long time. other occupations have retirement programs after 20 and even 10 years. Teachers need to prove up. some just sit in the classroom waiting for the day to end. Good teachers get involved and the students like them. With a high salary why not contribute part of your retirement?Some of my teachers needed medals pinned on them Like my 8th grade teacher who was shot in the chest in front of me and my music teacher who was carried out of the class room in a straight jacket. Indian kids are mean
$75 an hour is more than my plumber costs me. and ... (show quote)

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Mar 10, 2014 12:56:43   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
vernon wrote:
you will get much more than the average working person i think it just boils down to pure greed .and most working people have to work 40 yrs for a retire ment .you need to go out and work for a living.how many people do any on opp make 75 $an hour.as far as teachers having a hard time with kids and some getting killed ive seen people burned to death and seen them fall to their death from high structures so dont look for sympathy from a person who worked in real life.

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Mar 10, 2014 13:05:42   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Did I say anything about sympathy. I agreed on almost every thing you said. I work to this day in real life. I once got dispatched to put 3 she bolts through the whalers and forms on a section of the second Bonneville powerhouse. I tied off my lanyard on a 16 inch stick of rebar. About 75 feet below me was a huge stain that looked like a 5 gallon bucket of brown paint had been dropped. It took all day. The forman kept checking on me. The men on the crew would not look at me. When I finished I found out the previos forman fell trying to do the job because no one else would do it.. He lost his cool and lost his head.. Next day I was on another crew.

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Mar 10, 2014 14:22:59   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
It is on reliable intelligence sources, that Yanukovych, while selling weapons to Al'Qaeda, through Turkey's Black Sea access, if he is still in Russia, he would likely be detained, since even with Aleksandr Dugin, his former ally, would have been the only source of protection, unless of course it is that famously popular expression, "protective custody" that Putin gave him; he has outlived his usefulness to Moscow's momentum for the Nationalist coup, the most dangerous aspect in this whole Ukraine and Crimea situation, is how aggressively the Husseyn Obama Caliphate has put the Armed Forces on alert, when the attack on Benghazi, did not even rate the support of the Embassy U.S.M.C. security force, this is indicative of what the narrative actually is, this Fascist Supremacist Jihadi Mullahs Fuehrer, is determined to make Putin pay for Syria, and his attempt to use NATO again, as he did in Libya, in 2011 an international violation given this was a sovereign state, the secular nature of Libyan society, was the major blow to the Arab Spring Revolt.
Unacceptable conditions to his bosses, in Qatar and Turkey, with his intention to supply Al'Qaeda (linked) terrorists, as if there was a difference between these "details of deception" it was the overturning of the Brotherhood Mursy, whose referendum sent the Brotherhood into a panic mode, not only had they lost Egypt, but the Maghreb as well, this meant the Northwest African Continent had rejected the Al'Ikhwan's shariaiism as well,
since the Middle East had been stabilized in great part thanks to George Bush's knowledge of the region and the attention to intelligence, (post 9-11-01) it is my opinion the W.M.D. narrative in Iraq was a C.I.A. 'plant' to execute a planned invasion, that was the 'damaged brainchild' of both Clinton and Tony Blair, C.I.A. Director Tenet was a partisan operative for the Democrat Progressive Clinton Administration, it was the adviser on Arab Affairs for Clinton, Tariq Ramadan, the grandson of Hassan Al'Banna, the founder of the Brotherhood in 1928, who sent the NATO troops into Kosovo, and the region 'of interest' to the Brotherhood, there was no Al'Qaeda yet but the Muhajadin and Fedeyeen, the precursors to the Third Reich's "Einsatzgruppen" the roving death squads, first appeared in the Ottoman Empire's first Jihad, 1890-1900 then 1914-1917 (officially) but in reality continued to exterminate the secular Muslims, with the same ferocity that the Armenian Genocide carried against the Hebrew, Christian, and Catholic Communities, natural to every secular free society.
Ukraine and Crimea are only an extension of the wrath of the Fascist Muslim Brotherhood's wish to overthrow Putin, for the opposition he posed to the Arab Spring Revolt in Egypt, Libya and Syria, these countries are the birthplace of Ancient Hebrew and Christian Secular Religious Communities; these in predating Islam dispute the concept of "sacred space".
Russia has been well, Russian Orthodox a religion shared with those countries the Arab Revolt affected from the time it began it was Muslim Brotherhood fueled, in 2010 the Husseyn-Obama client state, had arranged for Ramadan after his speeches in both Turkey and Egypt, 2009 was the beginning of his 'caliphate'
accepting his electoral victory first in Egypt, 1928 Al'Ikhwan birthplace, the University of Cairo was pivotal to their ascent, Turkey also had the narrative of Supremacist Fascism having been the point at which, Islam began to concentrate on not only Christians but their own, who they considered a greater danger than anything else, the secular Muslim, was now a kuffar (infidel) for whom the only solution was death.
The reaction of rage, in the Ukrainian and Crimean dispute, if it is examined from its beginning the Al'Qaeda-Brotherhood connection to the 'nationalists' is another suspicious tie, for which no other narrative can explain, why it is so necessary for the U.S. to inject itself into a situation for which there is no reason, other than the retribution for Syria's defense of the Orthodox Christians, the Coptic as well as the Catholic Communities, not acceptable to a re-defined religion believing not peaceful coexistence but supremacy.

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Mar 10, 2014 15:00:20   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
It is on reliable intelligence sources, that Yanukovych, while selling weapons to Al'Qaeda, through Turkey's Black Sea access, if he is still in Russia, he would likely be detained, since even with Aleksandr Dugin, his former ally, would have been the only source of protection, unless of course it is that famously popular expression, "protective custody" that Putin gave him; he has outlived his usefulness to Moscow's momentum for the Nationalist coup, the most dangerous aspect in this whole Ukraine and Crimea situation, is how aggressively the Husseyn Obama Caliphate has put the Armed Forces on alert, when the attack on Benghazi, did not even rate the support of the Embassy U.S.M.C. security force, this is indicative of what the narrative actually is, this Fascist Supremacist Jihadi Mullahs Fuehrer, is determined to make Putin pay for Syria, and his attempt to use NATO again, as he did in Libya, in 2011 an international violation given this was a sovereign state, the secular nature of Libyan society, was the major blow to the Arab Spring Revolt.
Unacceptable conditions to his bosses, in Qatar and Turkey, with his intention to supply Al'Qaeda (linked) terrorists, as if there was a difference between these "details of deception" it was the overturning of the Brotherhood Mursy, whose referendum sent the Brotherhood into a panic mode, not only had they lost Egypt, but the Maghreb as well, this meant the Northwest African Continent had rejected the Al'Ikhwan's shariaiism as well,
since the Middle East had been stabilized in great part thanks to George Bush's knowledge of the region and the attention to intelligence, (post 9-11-01) it is my opinion the W.M.D. narrative in Iraq was a C.I.A. 'plant' to execute a planned invasion, that was the 'damaged brainchild' of both Clinton and Tony Blair, C.I.A. Director Tenet was a partisan operative for the Democrat Progressive Clinton Administration, it was the adviser on Arab Affairs for Clinton, Tariq Ramadan, the grandson of Hassan Al'Banna, the founder of the Brotherhood in 1928, who sent the NATO troops into Kosovo, and the region 'of interest' to the Brotherhood, there was no Al'Qaeda yet but the Muhajadin and Fedeyeen, the precursors to the Third Reich's "Einsatzgruppen" the roving death squads, first appeared in the Ottoman Empire's first Jihad, 1890-1900 then 1914-1917 (officially) but in reality continued to exterminate the secular Muslims, with the same ferocity that the Armenian Genocide carried against the Hebrew, Christian, and Catholic Communities, natural to every secular free society.
Ukraine and Crimea are only an extension of the wrath of the Fascist Muslim Brotherhood's wish to overthrow Putin, for the opposition he posed to the Arab Spring Revolt in Egypt, Libya and Syria, these countries are the birthplace of Ancient Hebrew and Christian Secular Religious Communities; these in predating Islam dispute the concept of "sacred space".
Russia has been well, Russian Orthodox a religion shared with those countries the Arab Revolt affected from the time it began it was Muslim Brotherhood fueled, in 2010 the Husseyn-Obama client state, had arranged for Ramadan after his speeches in both Turkey and Egypt, 2009 was the beginning of his 'caliphate'
accepting his electoral victory first in Egypt, 1928 Al'Ikhwan birthplace, the University of Cairo was pivotal to their ascent, Turkey also had the narrative of Supremacist Fascism having been the point at which, Islam began to concentrate on not only Christians but their own, who they considered a greater danger than anything else, the secular Muslim, was now a kuffar (infidel) for whom the only solution was death.
The reaction of rage, in the Ukrainian and Crimean dispute, if it is examined from its beginning the Al'Qaeda-Brotherhood connection to the 'nationalists' is another suspicious tie, for which no other narrative can explain, why it is so necessary for the U.S. to inject itself into a situation for which there is no reason, other than the retribution for Syria's defense of the Orthodox Christians, the Coptic as well as the Catholic Communities, not acceptable to a re-defined religion believing not peaceful coexistence but supremacy.
It is on reliable intelligence sources, that Yanu... (show quote)


WOWZERS! TOTAL POLITICAL DELUSION FALSE FACTOID AFTER FALSE FACTOID.

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Mar 10, 2014 17:42:00   #
vernon
 
jonhatfield wrote:
WOWZERS! TOTAL POLITICAL DELUSION FALSE FACTOID AFTER FALSE FACTOID.


PROVE IT BIG MOUTH

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Mar 10, 2014 21:12:10   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
vernon wrote:
PROVE IT BIG MOUTH


:thumbup:

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Mar 10, 2014 21:13:49   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
This is for Vernon.
fom wrote:
Did I say anything about sympathy. I agreed on almost every thing you said. I work to this day in real life. I once got dispatched to put 3 she bolts through the whalers and forms on a section of the second Bonneville powerhouse. I tied off my lanyard on a 16 inch stick of rebar. About 75 feet below me was a huge stain that looked like a 5 gallon bucket of brown paint had been dropped. It took all day. The forman kept checking on me. The men on the crew would not look at me. When I finished I found out the previos forman fell trying to do the job because no one else would do it.. He lost his cool and lost his head.. Next day I was on another crew.
Did I say anything about sympathy. I agreed on alm... (show quote)

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Mar 11, 2014 00:29:08   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
vernon wrote:
PROVE IT BIG MOUTH


Funny, small mouth RWE fishy boy, since you have never proved a single thing in a post. All you do is give four word guppie sound responses or silly thumbs up. Have you noticed people seldom reply to your posts because there's no thought to respond to in your posts. Same with Alex.

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Mar 11, 2014 00:39:33   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Vernon gave me a hard time today even after I agreed with most of what he posted. Don't quite get it. . Gun powdered dog syndrome or what. The man is just Ornry.
jonhatfield wrote:
Funny, small mouth RWE fishy boy, since you have never proved a single thing in a post. All you do is give four word guppie sound responses or silly thumbs up. Have you noticed people seldom reply to your posts because there's no thought to respond to in your posts. Same with Alex.

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Mar 11, 2014 01:09:02   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
fom wrote:
Vernon gave me a hard time today even after I agreed with most of what he posted. Don't quite get it. . Gun powdered dog syndrome or what. The man is just Ornry.


It's just a habit with Vern and Alex, just snarling at other side and wagging tails at their friends. Probably nice in person. Anonymous internet makes dogs of most of us at least part of the time. :D

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Mar 11, 2014 01:17:59   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
I am trying to be nice to everybody these days hopeing to get away from being a jerk to jerks. It is hard. I want to rip some heads off some whack jobs who try to impress every body with their hateful attitudes.I must prevail and learn to not be Phased.
jonhatfield wrote:
It's just a habit with Vern and Alex, just snarling at other side and wagging tails at their friends. Probably nice in person. Anonymous internet makes dogs of most of us at least part of the time. :D

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