oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I ask this question because I know how Mr. Hitler used Chamberlain to get control of all of Czechoslovakia and an excuse to begin the ensuing war. Now will Putin use Ukraine as his movement toward re-establishment of the Soviet empire. They surely are behaving much like Hitler did in 1938. I am sure that there are many here who don't know about the Sudetenland and the "peace" Mr. Chamberlain thought he had won by giving control of the German speaking Sudetenland. Yep, Chamberlain talked a lot about Mr. Hitler as he called the dictator and Putin seems to have studied his European history pretty thoroughly. If Putin takes control of Ukraine then we can consider Crimea and Ukraine to be Obama's Sudetenland.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/putin-just-borrowed-hitlers-favorite-pre-war-strategy/?utm_source=wysija&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NewMainEmail

Brian Devon

Putin is not Hitler. He has been in office a very long time and has not shown himself to be another "fuhrer". That being said, he is a tough guy, who grew up in a tough neighborhood, and came up through the KGB. The Sudetenland is an easy but incorrect analogy. I think we should borrow a page from the old Russian empire. What did 19th century Russia do when we annexed indigenous tribal homelands, Hawaii and Northern Mexico???

They did nothing. We do not need to ratchet up the heat by intemperate rhetoric and false analogies. The U.S. and Russia are still the 2 most powerful nuclear nations on this planet. I am happy that no U.S. president or Russian leader, in my lifetime has launched a hot war against the other (although we came uncomfortably close in 1962).

Enough with the overused Neville Chamberlain/Hitler analogies (this means you too, Hillary Clinton) that are not applicable to 2 slavic siblings that have a complex relationship going back to the 12th century.

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

If so, Marco Rubio will be in a pickle because he endorsed all of Mr. Obama's actions.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/8-things-obama-must-do-about-ukraine-104128.html#.Uxkc5ruPL3h

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

If Putin wants to take Ukraine, he'll take it. Unless we are willing to engage in a war with Russia, there is nothing we can do about it. Just like they could not stop us from war with Iraq.
So, how far are you suggesting that we go?

MrEd Loc: Georgia

Personally, I don't think we should be doing anything. That is not our country, they pose no threat to us and we have no business going in there. Obama had no reason for doing anything in there either for the above reasons.

I think he should be impeached just for that if nothing else. He had no business doing anything in there or messing with any other government. For what he did he should be turned over to the international courts for trial in war crimes in addition to what he did in Egypt. He interfered to the point of getting both governments o*******wn. He has no right interfering like that in any country and I don't care what kind of leaders they have.

petertimber

Sir you mean well and when you speak of "NO RIGHT" to do anything your being naiive..Its all about power politics, control and $$$$. The current flap concerns gas/oil pipelines from Russia which the USA/Israel are competing in the same market (Western and Eastern Europe) which needs energy to keep their industry going and people warm in winter. Ukraine is a main outlet for energy to Europe for the Russians and the Mideast, Iran, Iraq Turkey to Europe for the USA/Israel

Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede

Here’s what I don’t like about the whole ordeal with Ukraine.

A part of me says “yeah we ought to help the Ukrainians for their interest in joining the EU to show the West looks out after its own” then another part says “who cares? Sucks to be them and fuck the EU and its backward ways since it’s none of our business anyway.” So I’m either for the continuation of a world police mentality or putting our heads in the sand while the world gets more dangerous. You see my dilemma.

Russians respect strength and historical accounts proves this whenever America argued from a strong position the Russians are more keen of taking us seriously.

We cannot afford to intervene everywhere in the world as we once did. We’re sending conflicting messages when our incompetent elected moron (Obozo) is picking and choosing what we sanction and what we condemn and we what we actually do versus what is all fluster. The Libertarian side of me is saying why the hell should we bother? We got problems of our own.

Why should we as Americans care about Crimea? We shouldn’t. ‘The Crisis in Ukraine’ is a brilliant media distraction on the real problems going on here at home. It’s convenient to go by Rob “the dead fish” Emanuel to never let a good crisis go to waste. Watch the other hand.

Yes there is startling historical symmetry on the tactics demonstrated by Putin being the same as Hitler’s and yet I don’t think we can quite place bets on Russian conquest of Europe just yet. The world of the 1930s isn’t like the world of today. This fast pace world we live in is highly responsive to the events that t***spire. Simply put the world is much smaller today than it was 80 years ago which leaves little room for full blown world war like before unless the Russians are ready to be responsible for a huge global upset.

Too many variables at risk to say anything for certain but I am sure there are plenty of other people to make speculations of the subject matter in the meantime.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I have to say that you sounded off before the poster later said that the world is much smaller today than it was in the 1930s. Also, the world was much smaller then than it was in the 19th century. If Chamberlain didn't go home bragging about appeasing Hitler working to preserve peace in Europe it would have been ok but he did get off his plane waving the treaty over his head talking about "peace in our time". By the fall of 1939 Hitler had taken over all of Czechoslovakia and was invading Poland. Yep, "peace in our time" said old Neville.

What was the difference in that agreement about Sudetenland and what Putin is pushing for in Crimea? I wish you could point out the difference but you don't even seem to try. Nothing other than the Crimean threat is pointed at the underbelly of Poland just as Czechoslovakia was aimed at the western part of Europe.

Come on and explain your reasoning to me. Words from you have no meaning without some real reasoning.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Where were you when Kennedy backed the same country down in Cuba? Did he use any troops or did he just threaten to use naval forces? You do know quite a bit about that period of history in this part of the world, don't you?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Did you see where that Nuland woman from Department of State said those very words in a phone call to an ambassador? I am not in total disagreement with you about the situation but just had to call the attention of some to the fact that she did that. The Germans are pretty unhappy about her words along with others in the West.

Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede

Yeah I read something like that from another site. The Euros don't mind dumping on us when it suits them yet when they're about to get theirs who do they crawl to?

I think this is EU's comeuppance for their complacency and for letting the Russians hold them by the nads with the whole oil situation there.

Besides the only thing I h**e more than l*****ts here are snobby Europeans.

mpix Loc: NorCal

No way. Our progressives are snobby progressives, which trumps snobby Euros. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Patty

Under the Budapest Memorandum not only does Russia agree to respect their independence but also to help if any other force was to threaten it. The democratically elected gov. (good or bad) has been illegitimatlly removed. Russia has done nothing that the l********e p*******t has not asked them to do.
The first thing this unconfirmed new gov. has done is to sign on for more money and cut the poors pensions from $160.00 a month to $80.00 a month. Starve out the poor. This is another Greece (where democratically elected officials were replaced with Western bankers)rerun by the West.

catpaw Loc: Bakersfield, California

We don't need another meat grinder war in places like Syria. We don't need to get into it with Russia over the Crimea. We don't need to look after Europe's oil supply from Russia. Or solve China's problems, or Israel's problems; or Mexico's problems.
I don't mean to preach isolationism, but we don't need world war three to preserve our family values and way of life.
Putin has stepped into a cow patty by his military aggression. He's made it known that he doesn't respect his country's own treaties or international law. But he hasn't threatened the US. Boycott the jerk for the same reason I'd not have anything to do with an i***t. That doesn't take troops, or sanctions, or confrontation.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

It was a simple question. Not everything is a gotcha. I was curious: Since we cannot stop a true Russian invasion, if that happened what should be our response?

About Cuba: I don't know...when you say "troops" to me I think of all three branches of the military. So, yes he did use troops.