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Sep 3, 2018 12:44:11   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Think you may be on to something.



RRRoger wrote:
McCain was not BiPartisan.
He was totally AntiTrump.
The only reason he blocked AbominationCare repeal was to spite Trump.
He was also sold out to the Military/Industrial Complex and there were no wars he did not like.

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Sep 4, 2018 06:30:02   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
McCain week. Is it over? We're done. What a long, drawn-out week that was completely overdone. I think they were trying to turn him into a hero, if you didn't agree with the whole "pollical" BS message. Who put this political fiasco together? That's what I want to know. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/is_it_over_yet.html


It was a good way to divert attention from all the Democrats' "collusion with the Russians" that is being exposed by the Mueller investigation.

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Sep 4, 2018 07:06:01   #
patrioticmind
 
the Reversal of Correct Verdicts
If you tuned in to the media last week, there could be no escaping “the saga of John McCain.” A rowdy in high school, he then went into the Navy and flew combat missions above Vietnam. After flying 23 of those missions, he was shot down. He was, by his account, tortured in the prisons of Vietnam. This, we were told, tempered him and he came back a man dedicated to serving his country.

What is wrong with this picture? The war in Vietnam was a criminal enterprise in which the United States slaughtered over three million people who were basically fighting for national self-determination and against American domination. As was exposed at the time, the missions flown by people like McCain not only bombed military installations but hospitals, schools, and all kinds of civilian targets. Far more bombs were dropped on Vietnam than by all sides in the entirety of World War 2, and these bombs wreaked horrific damage. In addition, the U.S. dropped the defoliant Agent Orange, which had the effect of depriving people of food and poisoning the countryside for generations—resulting in birth defects and deaths to this day.

How is any of this heroic or anything other than despicable? In actual fact, people like John McCain were war criminals. Many, many people once knew that, in part because some of the soldiers who participated in that war came back to tell the truth about what they had done. But many of those who did once know this have either “forgotten” it or had their understanding sanded down by the relentless campaigns of the ruling class (including through lionizing unapologetic war criminals like McCain), and many younger people have no real idea. So one part of the celebration of McCain was to hammer in a different and very wrong verdict on that war: that “fighting in Vietnam was right and noble and opposing the war was wrong, nothing more to be said.”

2) Seeking to Define the Acceptable Parameters of Resistance
These commemorations, ceremonies, and press campaigns were, in part at least, aimed at defining for the anti-Trump masses HOW one should approach the resistance, other injustices, and life in general. Trump’s selfishness, greed, open racism, misogyny, and crude chauvinism was endlessly (sometimes openly, sometimes not) contrasted with what was portrayed as “McCain’s life of sacrifice, risk, and work for country.” The point very explicitly being made, over and over again and in the entire symbolism and ceremony surrounding McCain’s death, was that there was nothing better you could do or aspire to than to dedicate yourself to a life of service (whether military, government, or in civic life) and serve country and flag with principle and integrity, defend the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and all the institutions that have made America “great” and contributed to its primacy in the world... that Trump is trampling on. To translate, by all means hate and oppose what Trump is and what he represents—but do so only on the basis of über-patriotism and loyal service to this oppressive empire.

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Sep 4, 2018 07:07:37   #
patrioticmind
 
the Reversal of Correct Verdicts
If you tuned in to the media last week, there could be no escaping “the saga of John McCain.” A rowdy in high school, he then went into the Navy and flew combat missions above Vietnam. After flying 23 of those missions, he was shot down. He was, by his account, tortured in the prisons of Vietnam. This, we were told, tempered him and he came back a man dedicated to serving his country.

What is wrong with this picture? The war in Vietnam was a criminal enterprise in which the United States slaughtered over three million people who were basically fighting for national self-determination and against American domination. As was exposed at the time, the missions flown by people like McCain not only bombed military installations but hospitals, schools, and all kinds of civilian targets. Far more bombs were dropped on Vietnam than by all sides in the entirety of World War 2, and these bombs wreaked horrific damage. In addition, the U.S. dropped the defoliant Agent Orange, which had the effect of depriving people of food and poisoning the countryside for generations—resulting in birth defects and deaths to this day.

How is any of this heroic or anything other than despicable? In actual fact, people like John McCain were war criminals. Many, many people once knew that, in part because some of the soldiers who participated in that war came back to tell the truth about what they had done. But many of those who did once know this have either “forgotten” it or had their understanding sanded down by the relentless campaigns of the ruling class (including through lionizing unapologetic war criminals like McCain), and many younger people have no real idea. So one part of the celebration of McCain was to hammer in a different and very wrong verdict on that war: that “fighting in Vietnam was right and noble and opposing the war was wrong, nothing more to be said.”

2) Seeking to Define the Acceptable Parameters of Resistance
These commemorations, ceremonies, and press campaigns were, in part at least, aimed at defining for the anti-Trump masses HOW one should approach the resistance, other injustices, and life in general. Trump’s selfishness, greed, open racism, misogyny, and crude chauvinism was endlessly (sometimes openly, sometimes not) contrasted with what was portrayed as “McCain’s life of sacrifice, risk, and work for country.” The point very explicitly being made, over and over again and in the entire symbolism and ceremony surrounding McCain’s death, was that there was nothing better you could do or aspire to than to dedicate yourself to a life of service (whether military, government, or in civic life) and serve country and flag with principle and integrity, defend the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and all the institutions that have made America “great” and contributed to its primacy in the world... that Trump is trampling on. To translate, by all means hate and oppose what Trump is and what he represents—but do so only on the basis of über-patriotism and loyal service to this oppressive empire!

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Sep 4, 2018 08:50:02   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
I am glad I did not watch any of the McCain fairy tale.
patrioticmind wrote:
the Reversal of Correct Verdicts
If you tuned in to the media last week, there could be no escaping “the saga of John McCain.” A rowdy in high school, he then went into the Navy and flew combat missions above Vietnam. After flying 23 of those missions, he was shot down. He was, by his account, tortured in the prisons of Vietnam. This, we were told, tempered him and he came back a man dedicated to serving his country.

What is wrong with this picture? The war in Vietnam was a criminal enterprise in which the United States slaughtered over three million people who were basically fighting for national self-determination and against American domination. As was exposed at the time, the missions flown by people like McCain not only bombed military installations but hospitals, schools, and all kinds of civilian targets. Far more bombs were dropped on Vietnam than by all sides in the entirety of World War 2, and these bombs wreaked horrific damage. In addition, the U.S. dropped the defoliant Agent Orange, which had the effect of depriving people of food and poisoning the countryside for generations—resulting in birth defects and deaths to this day.

How is any of this heroic or anything other than despicable? In actual fact, people like John McCain were war criminals. Many, many people once knew that, in part because some of the soldiers who participated in that war came back to tell the truth about what they had done. But many of those who did once know this have either “forgotten” it or had their understanding sanded down by the relentless campaigns of the ruling class (including through lionizing unapologetic war criminals like McCain), and many younger people have no real idea. So one part of the celebration of McCain was to hammer in a different and very wrong verdict on that war: that “fighting in Vietnam was right and noble and opposing the war was wrong, nothing more to be said.”

2) Seeking to Define the Acceptable Parameters of Resistance
These commemorations, ceremonies, and press campaigns were, in part at least, aimed at defining for the anti-Trump masses HOW one should approach the resistance, other injustices, and life in general. Trump’s selfishness, greed, open racism, misogyny, and crude chauvinism was endlessly (sometimes openly, sometimes not) contrasted with what was portrayed as “McCain’s life of sacrifice, risk, and work for country.” The point very explicitly being made, over and over again and in the entire symbolism and ceremony surrounding McCain’s death, was that there was nothing better you could do or aspire to than to dedicate yourself to a life of service (whether military, government, or in civic life) and serve country and flag with principle and integrity, defend the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and all the institutions that have made America “great” and contributed to its primacy in the world... that Trump is trampling on. To translate, by all means hate and oppose what Trump is and what he represents—but do so only on the basis of über-patriotism and loyal service to this oppressive empire!
the Reversal of Correct Verdicts br If you tuned i... (show quote)

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Sep 4, 2018 09:08:33   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I didn't either other than news clips. From what I saw it wasn't anything but a bunch of bull.



Owl32 wrote:
I am glad I did not watch any of the McCain fairy tale.

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Sep 4, 2018 09:39:14   #
TrueAmerican
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
McCain week. Is it over? We're done. What a long, drawn-out week that was completely overdone. I think they were trying to turn him into a hero, if you didn't agree with the whole "pollical" BS message. Who put this political fiasco together? That's what I want to know. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/is_it_over_yet.html


That's easy the McCain party of demoncRATS !!!!!!

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Sep 4, 2018 09:42:19   #
TrueAmerican
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I was not glued to the TV watching, in fact, I hoped it would all end soon. However, one of the few segments, I happened to watch, pointed out that very few over the years have had the distinction of laying in state. It's my opinion that having a bitter hateful hot head like John McCain, to lay in State has forever tarnished the significance of that honor.

Had he, in the end, called for unity and an end to the divisiveness that is gripping the country that would have been a cause for celebration, instead, his send-off was bitter and un-inclusive.
I was not glued to the TV watching, in fact, I hop... (show quote)



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Sep 4, 2018 12:24:31   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
McCain week. Is it over? We're done. What a long, drawn-out week that was completely overdone. I think they were trying to turn him into a hero, if you didn't agree with the whole "pollical" BS message. Who put this political fiasco together? That's what I want to know. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/is_it_over_yet.html


All I know,\is ,That his going has made the world a better place.

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Sep 4, 2018 13:36:13   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
Yes, if only every one would realize that we all live in the same country and under the same law. In order for all to be civil is to agreed that Freedom and Liberty is every citizens gift from the Constitution. It belongs to all of us and we all deserve the same respect that others expect for themselves.
donald41 wrote:
All I know,\is ,That his going has made the world a better place.

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Sep 4, 2018 16:34:43   #
Carol Kelly
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
BTW, what do you think of all those great numbers coming out. Not a person out there who could accomplish what this non-politician, Donald J. Trump has. Are you proud yet? You should be. If you ever come up with one name of a guy (or woman) who could do the job he's dong (alive of course) please let us know. You bash him constantly but can't think of one name of somebody who could be "ON FIRE" for this wonderful country. We're all ears!!!


I am very, very proud of Trump and what he’s doing for this country here and abroad. We are among the free and the brave. May we remain so.

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Sep 4, 2018 18:31:17   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
I certainly agreed with every bone in my body and every breath in my lungs that the accident of Trump, was not an accident but a miracle that this Nation needed and I will never regret the vote I gave and will continue to give as long as it is needed.
Carol Kelly wrote:
I am very, very proud of Trump and what he’s doing for this country here and abroad. We are among the free and the brave. May we remain so.

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Sep 4, 2018 18:44:04   #
EmilyD
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I am very, very proud of Trump and what he’s doing for this country here and abroad. We are among the free and the brave. May we remain so.

Well said, and I agree 100%. And I believe there are many, many people virtually standing by your side and saying the same thing.

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Sep 4, 2018 18:45:27   #
EmilyD
 
Owl32 wrote:
I certainly agreed with every bone in my body and every breath in my lungs that the accident of Trump, was not an accident but a miracle that this Nation needed and I will never regret the vote I gave and will continue to give as long as it is needed.



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Sep 4, 2018 18:47:38   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Owl32 wrote:
I certainly agreed with every bone in my body and every breath in my lungs that the accident of Trump, was not an accident but a miracle that this Nation needed and I will never regret the vote I gave and will continue to give as long as it is needed.
Personally, I think Trump was the result of a vacuum of testicles in the WH.

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