US tax payers to give Ukraine the 15 billion (Page 2): The Military cannot be given a descent pay raise. The White House cannot afford tours because of a lack of funding. The VA...

Doug Rodrigues

The Military cannot be given a descent pay raise. The White House cannot afford tours because of a lack of funding. The VA Centers cannot afford to give injured Veterans proper care. Still, we can afford to give 15 Billion to a foreign country?

vernon

Patty wrote:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-12/imf-wants-you-pay-71-income-tax
They are going to take it out of our pocket one way or the other.
Lets see, IMF takes 71% and Obama's MyRA takes 15%. The state, county and local takes 10% (if your lucky). Arent they nice to leave us with 4% of our own money.

just where are they getting the 15 bil.to give away?they dont have enough money to buy a roll of toilet paper.

vernon

Kevyn wrote:

You need to watch late night TV the infomercials will tell you how to invest in gold. If you cash in your IRA, bank accounts and retirement savings and buy guns, ammo, gold, whiskey and lots of canned goods you will be one of the few ready for the coming apocalypse!

yes she will need the weapons to fight off dumasses like you.

vernon

3jack wrote:

There's always someone willing to embellish a statement to make things look worse than they actually are. The aid to Ukraine is 1 billion. The IMF does not tax your money. The proposed Myra is nothing more than a different version of the IRA (INDIVIDUAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNT). You currently pay taxes when you withdraw funds from your IRA, so what's the difference?

if you check youll find out you dont pay taxes on iras you pay up front.

3jack

vernon wrote:

if you check youll find out you dont pay taxes on iras you pay up front.

Wrong. When you withdraw from your Traditional IRA, it's taxed as regular income. If you have a Roth IRA and you are 59 1/2 years old or older, your withdrawals are not taxed.

petertimber

3jack wrote:

Wrong. When you withdraw from your Traditional IRA, it's taxed as regular income. If you have a Roth IRA and you are 59 1/2 years old or older, your withdrawals are not taxed.

Nice diversion from the luring of Ukraine from Russia toward "NATO" countries with US $$$$ billions for the sole purpose of getting Europe to buy US/Israeli oil pipeline gas coming from the Mideast via Turkey/Ukraine? rather than existing supplies from Russia which is what all this nonsense about Freeing the Ukraine from Russuia's grip. The legitimate President was illegally chased out of office and a new illegal President replaced him with $1 billion dollars but we are pointing a finger at Putin and Russia while Crimea has nothing to do with anything except propaganda to get Ukraine to njoin the west in supplying Euopre with mid east gas lines instead of Russian gas line thru Ukraine......It's $$$$$$$

A reading of history of Ukraine will open your eyes a bit more. http://holdomorct.org/history.html

For some strange reason the website above is "NOT AVAILABLE" at this time?

davecollins

It's typical of half breed ethiopian muslims - give it away then it becomes a ghetto for the cadillacs to drive through pulling a trailer full of watermelons, chitlins, and fried chicken with stupid caucasians standing guard and saluting. Maybe the welfare rats are smarter than they appear, you couldn't tell by the stench that comes off of them.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

petertimber wrote:

Nice diversion from the luring of Ukraine from Rus... (show quote)

Just $$$? Nothing to do with freedom and self-government? Certainly a lot of contradictions. You have your eye on the money. I have my eye on the future of freedom and self-government. You distrust our government and its intentions. I trust America, its government, its leaders, and all their intentions (aware, of course, that mistakes are made). Perhaps we are both partly right and partly wrong?

For some strange reason, my computer got to the referenced 'not available' (ooooh, coonnnssssspppppiiiirrraaccyy) website after webpage saying not available but with same web address you cited as 'do you mean' address...which then went to the site. Weird...no doubt you would think a conspiracy to hide the truth like the rightwingnut OPP faction thinks...or don't you belong to that faction? :roll: That's all right if you want to believe the 'follow the $$$' idea...plenty of leftwingnuts with the same 'follow the money' thinking. :P

Aren't we both ridiculous? you with your distrusting and me with my trusting? :-P :-P :-P

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

davecollins wrote:

It's typical of half breed ethiopian muslims - give it away then it becomes a ghetto for the cadillacs to drive through pulling a trailer full of watermelons, chitlins, and fried chicken with stupid caucasians standing guard and saluting. Maybe the welfare rats are smarter than they appear, you couldn't tell by the stench that comes off of them.

Nothing compared to your stink I think everyone on this forum would agree, right and left, middle and extremes. :-)

Why don't you look up Ethiopia--you might be surprised about its actual history.

Patty

vernon wrote:

just where are they getting the 15 bil.to give away?they dont have enough money to buy a roll of toilet paper.

They're counting on the stupid to not make their retirement funds safe for when they do us a favor and make it mandatory for everyone to be put in to MyRA. I think. I really cant think of anything else left to raid and no one is buying our debt any more.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Patty wrote:

They're counting on the stupid to not make their retirement funds safe for when they do us a favor and make it mandatory for everyone to be put in to MyRA. I think. I really cant think of anything else left to raid and no one is buying our debt any more.

You think? :roll: You really can't think of anything else? :roll:

Patty

jonhatfield wrote:

You think? :roll: You really can't think of anything else? :roll:

How to steal other peoples money isn't something that comes easy to me. Im sure you can probably come up with a few suggestions though. :-)

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Patty wrote:

How to steal other peoples money isn't something that comes easy to me. Im sure you can probably come up with a few suggestions though. :-)

So you think I'm a thief? You think? :mrgreen: You can't think of anything else? :mrgreen: I would say there's a question whether you can think at all, lady.

Patty

jonhatfield wrote:

So you think I'm a thief? You think? :mrgreen: You can't think of anything else? :mrgreen: I would say there's a question whether you can think at all, lady.

So what you are saying is the only thing you can come up with is lame ass insults. I see.
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jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Patty wrote:

So what you are saying is the only thing you can come up with is lame ass insults. I see.
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You've proved you are incapable of thinking sensibly...no common sense proven by the total nonsense of your opening post. So rude to point it out when it's so obvious it doesn't need comment.

By the way, US taxpayers aren't going to give Ukraine the 15 billion...the European Union has committed to do that. Or don't you keep up with the news? :lol: :roll: So your opening nonsense and your Ukraine blame-O propaganda were falsity to begin with.

Question--Are you a Ron Paul fan who opposes our role as world leader and commitment to action supporting freedom and self-government throughout the world? Is that the purpose behind your posting of this Ukraine anti-action propaganda? Pardon me for pointing out that you are propagandizing for Putin and Russia and against America's interests. Your insane partisanship has made you into something of a putt puttt Puttttin puppet. :roll: :roll: :mrgreen: