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Mar 6, 2014 05:07:04   #
Patty
 
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-12/imf-wants-you-pay-71-income-tax
They are going to take it out of our pocket one way or the other.
Lets see, IMF takes 71% and Obama's MyRA takes 15%. The state, county and local takes 10% (if your lucky). Arent they nice to leave us with 4% of our own money.

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Mar 6, 2014 06:43:54   #
3jack
 
Patty wrote:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-12/imf-wants-you-pay-71-income-tax
They are going to take it out of our pocket one way or the other.
Lets see, IMF takes 71% and Obama's MyRA takes 15%. The state, county and local takes 10% (if your lucky). Arent they nice to leave us with 4% of our own money.


There's always someone willing to embellish a statement to make things look worse than they actually are. The aid to Ukraine is 1 billion. The IMF does not tax your money. The proposed Myra is nothing more than a different version of the IRA (INDIVIDUAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNT). You currently pay taxes when you withdraw funds from your IRA, so what's the difference?

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Mar 6, 2014 07:09:42   #
Patty
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ukraine-seeks-15-billion-rescue-from-imf-2014-03-03
Even if it goes through the EU you do realize that in 2008 we also bailed out the ECB through the TARP debacle also right?
The MyRA is for fools. I personally would not give a dime to a failing government that's GDP is 6 trillion a yr and has 90 some trillion in unfunded debt. You do what you want makes no difference to me if you like pretty worthless pieces of paper. :lol: :lol:

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Mar 6, 2014 08:45:30   #
davecollins
 
Welcome to the dictatorship, United States of Takers. Any time you have a congress with no backbone, a halfbreed executive branch, and the "white house" being painted black - we're all going to pay for the albinos and the ethiopian halfbreeds that call themselves "leaders". E******ns of conservatives and defeat of the dumocrat liberals may be one way to solve the seriousness of our problems, but bullets, firing squads, electric chairs, and chemical injections is the only sure way to stop corruption and crimes at that level. Take Singapore as an example - steal - cut off your finger, steal again - cut off your hand, steal the third time - death to a non conforming outcast of their society. You want to recover the free money we send to quarrelling countries? Execute all of the prisoners in our penal system with sentences over 20 years and stop foreign aid all together. Imagine how much money that would amount to? We could almost put some people back to work. What if we stopped foreign investment by US companies and kept those jobs here within our borders? Imagine how much money that would be? What if we paid government employees minimum wage and no benefits whatsoever? It couldn't possibly be any worse than it is now. Those parasites don't work anyway - just like our senators and representatives. Pay them for what they are worth - very little, if anything. Spend their money, not mine.

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Mar 6, 2014 09:12:51   #
Kevyn
 
Patty wrote:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ukraine-seeks-15-billion-rescue-from-imf-2014-03-03
Even if it goes through the EU you do realize that in 2008 we also bailed out the ECB through the TARP debacle also right?
The MyRA is for fools. I personally would not give a dime to a failing government that's GDP is 6 trillion a yr and has 90 some trillion in unfunded debt. You do what you want makes no difference to me if you like pretty worthless pieces of paper. :lol: :lol:


You need to watch late night TV the infomercials will tell you how to invest in gold. If you cash in your IRA, bank accounts and retirement savings and buy guns, ammo, gold, whiskey and lots of canned goods you will be one of the few ready for the coming apocalypse!

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Mar 6, 2014 09:45:57   #
Patty
 
Kevyn wrote:
You need to watch late night TV the infomercials will tell you how to invest in gold. If you cash in your IRA, bank accounts and retirement savings and buy guns, ammo, gold, whiskey and lots of canned goods you will be one of the few ready for the coming apocalypse!


You stick with that USD. Bawahaha.



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Mar 6, 2014 10:04:48   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Patty wrote:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-12/imf-wants-you-pay-71-income-tax
They are going to take it out of our pocket one way or the other.
Lets see, IMF takes 71% and Obama's MyRA takes 15%. The state, county and local takes 10% (if your lucky). Arent they nice to leave us with 4% of our own money.


Well, giving borrowed money to other countries just makes sense right? Spending it on education, infrastructure and job training HERE, would just be a wasted effort. According to many on 1PP, we are a welfare State and since the maximum number of our citizens are already on welfare, we have to out source some more. I do hope everyone knows that I'm being completely facetious.

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Mar 6, 2014 10:08:22   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
davecollins wrote:
Welcome to the dictatorship, United States of Takers. Any time you have a congress with no backbone, a halfbreed executive branch, and the "white house" being painted black - we're all going to pay for the albinos and the ethiopian halfbreeds that call themselves "leaders". E******ns of conservatives and defeat of the dumocrat liberals may be one way to solve the seriousness of our problems, but bullets, firing squads, electric chairs, and chemical injections is the only sure way to stop corruption http://intext.nav-links.com/images/intext-close5.pngand crimes at that level. Take Singapore as an example - steal - cut off your finger, steal again - cut off your hand, steal the third time - death to a non conforming outcast of their society. You want to recover the free money we send to quarrelling countries? Execute all of the prisoners in our penal system with sentences over 20 years and stop foreign aid all together. Imagine how much money that would amount to? We could almost put some people back to work. What if we stopped foreign investment by US companies and kept those jobs here within our borders? Imagine how much money that would be? What if we paid government employees minimum wage and no benefits whatsoever? It couldn't possibly be any worse than it is now. Those parasites don't work anyway - just like our senators and representatives. Pay them for what they are worth - very little, if anything. Spend their money, not mine.
Welcome to the dictatorship, United States of Take... (show quote)


Well Dave that may work for you if you can be sure that you are always on the right side of a shifting set of rules.

But I would like to stand by rules that a much less harsh.

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Mar 6, 2014 10:12:37   #
Patty
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Well, giving borrowed money to other countries just makes sense right? Spending it on education, infrastructure and job training HERE, would just be a wasted effort. According to many on 1PP, we are a welfare State and since the maximum number of our citizens are already on welfare, we have to out source some more. I do hope everyone knows that I'm being completely facetious.


I was reading a stats report yesterday and was amazed to find out that just based on keeping up with the population growth that we have to add between 130,000 and 150,000 jobs a month just to keep up with population growth.
So when the lipstick artist are painting up the pig every month with thier unemployment numbers for the feel good crowd unless it is over the lower of the two stats of 130,000 it isn't an actual drop in unemployment.

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Mar 6, 2014 10:20:55   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Patty wrote:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-12/imf-wants-you-pay-71-income-tax
They are going to take it out of our pocket one way or the other.
Lets see, IMF takes 71% and Obama's MyRA takes 15%. The state, county and local takes 10% (if your lucky). Arent they nice to leave us with 4% of our own money.


Sicko, lady. See a doctor about medication for rabidness.

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Mar 6, 2014 10:26:01   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
davecollins wrote:
Welcome to the dictatorship, United States of Takers. Any time you have a congress with no backbone, a halfbreed executive branch, and the "white house" being painted black - we're all going to pay for the albinos and the ethiopian halfbreeds that call themselves "leaders". E******ns of conservatives and defeat of the dumocrat liberals may be one way to solve the seriousness of our problems, but bullets, firing squads, electric chairs, and chemical injections is the only sure way to stop corruption and crimes at that level. Take Singapore as an example - steal - cut off your finger, steal again - cut off your hand, steal the third time - death to a non conforming outcast of their society. You want to recover the free money we send to quarrelling countries? Execute all of the prisoners in our penal system with sentences over 20 years and stop foreign aid all together. Imagine how much money that would amount to? We could almost put some people back to work. What if we stopped foreign investment by US companies and kept those jobs here within our borders? Imagine how much money that would be? What if we paid government employees minimum wage and no benefits whatsoever? It couldn't possibly be any worse than it is now. Those parasites don't work anyway - just like our senators and representatives. Pay them for what they are worth - very little, if anything. Spend their money, not mine.
Welcome to the dictatorship, United States of Take... (show quote)


So what kind of 'breed' are you, David? You and Patty are quite a rabid pair.

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Mar 6, 2014 10:34:43   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
jonhatfield wrote:
So what kind of 'breed' are you, David? You and Patty are quite a rabid pair.


You know that listening to them makes one think that maybe Putin could find a place for them. I think while they may disagree on a lot things, bottom line they would like much of the same things to happen for others.

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Mar 6, 2014 12:10:12   #
petertimber
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
You know that listening to them makes one think that maybe Putin could find a place for them. I think while they may disagree on a lot things, bottom line they would like much of the same things to happen for others.


"IT'S ALL ABOUT THE OIL PIPLINES ST...D"

Pipeline #1 from Russia and Ukraine to supply energy to western Europe as opposed to USA/Israel pipeline from Mideast to Western Europe. This is why "WE" are pouring all sorts of "AID" Into Ukraine and why Russia is maneuvering to keep Ukraine as part of its pipeline network. Its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Mar 6, 2014 12:42:08   #
Patty
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Sicko, lady. See a doctor about medication for rabidness.


:lol: :lol:



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Mar 6, 2014 12:43:52   #
Patty
 
petertimber wrote:
"IT'S ALL ABOUT THE OIL PIPLINES ST...D"

Pipeline #1 from Russia and Ukraine to supply energy to western Europe as opposed to USA/Israel pipeline from Mideast to Western Europe. This is why "WE" are pouring all sorts of "AID" Into Ukraine and why Russia is maneuvering to keep Ukraine as part of its pipeline network. Its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Yep that and getting Ukraine in NATO.

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