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Aug 14, 2018 21:19:44   #
JoyV
 
JoyV wrote:
The funding cuts were NOT specifically for Benghazi. nor do I think they went into account before the embassy attack and the funding cut (for total embassy security worldwide) was passed in May 2012 and the attack was in Sept 2012 within the same fiscal year. The cuts would have been applied starting the next fiscal year. After multiple requests were made to increase security, the State Department changed security contractors to Torres Advanced Enterprise Solutions 2 weeks before the attack. The new contractors did NOT cost less, so funding cuts were not the reason.

After mentioning his son's meeting at Trump Tower and whether Trump knew about it, you wrote, "[Trump] dictated the letter and announced his desire at a rally". What letter? What did it say?

AS for whether any wrong was ever found about Hillary, the FBI presented a laundry list of crimes Hillary committed. But despite admitting that she was guilty, Comey said he would recommend she NOT be prosecuted. No matter how big a crime, if the person is not indicted or tried; they will not be convicted. Not being indicted is not the same as not doing any wrong. But since the FBI investigation conclusion was written before the subject of the investigation was even questioned; we will never know.
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Correction. The security company the State Department changed to was Blue Mountain U.K. So the original company was Torres Advanced Enterprise Solutions. Then the State Department told cancelled the Torres contract and changed to Blue Mountain, which was inexperienced and had never done this sort of job. Then 12 days before the attack, they asked for Torres to take over. Sorry for the error.

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Aug 14, 2018 22:04:21   #
tbutkovich
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
(Note: I'm posting no facts or no URLs to open this post - just my opinion and my thoughts)
I voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 election. But it wasn't "My God, where has this guy been - he's the perfect candidate to turn things around in America" at the beginning. In all honesty it was my way of giving the middle finger to Washington DC and the federal government establishment. You know - those wonderful folks who told us they were running for office because they saw what we needed and knew how to make it happen. Then after election day they introduced themselves to the lobbyists and started feeding at the trough of graft and corruption like so many of their peers. They built powerful, well-funded organizations that helped to insure they were reelected time and again and faced no accountability to the people who voted for them.

And then a series of unexpected things happened. He clawed his way through the primaries, surviving Jeb and Ted and Marco. Then he beat Hillary Clinton in the face of withering mainstream media hate and despite hundreds of polls that would have discouraged lesser men. Then, and this was the real shocker, he actually was able to accomplish much of what he told us he would. And that was in the face of a vehemently biased press, an activist Hollywood mob, a lock-step bunch of Democrats, and many establishment Republicans who never wanted President Trump to be elected, much less succeed - since it would rock their safe little worlds they'd spent so much effort putting together.

And so we're here now (pre-midterms), getting ready to see whether or not we can reinforce his ability to get Congress to actually pass some decent legislation and the legions of hate, who were already at 11 on the dial are red-lining their efforts to derail this President. Despite cries of "there's no prejudice in the news media - we're not Fake News!", over 120 newspapers will begin editorially attacking the President on 16 August. Many in the media and sports entertainment world are going non-stop against him. Some lead demonstrations, while others just need an open mike to toss their verbal grenades.

Think about what is actually going on for a minute. They are convinced that they just need to be a little louder, a little more destructive, a little more "in your face" with their hate. And he's still there. And he's still trying to push through the things he promised us that he would. And he's made mistakes. But be honest. If you faced the $#!+ storm he faces every day - would your performance be impeccable? I know mine wouldn't be close.

So I said all that to say this - it all started for me thinking "if we could just throw a wrench into the workings of that mess that is our government, maybe they'd understand just how much we thought they'd been failing us". And now I'm thankful that what may have started out as a joke to many (remember Seth Meyers saying "Donald Trump said that he was running for president as a Republican. That's funny, because I thought he was running as a joke.") has gotten to this point.

I think it's about time the rest of us grabbed hold of the rope and started pulling in the same direction so that we could not only keep our majorities in both houses, but maybe add a few seats in each of them. I think the President has earned it.
(Note: I'm posting no facts or no URLs to open thi... (show quote)


Fit2BTied!

You nailed it! Vote for all republicans supported by Trump. Get an elected Republican majority in the House and Senate. Blow the obstructionist Democrats out of their seats. Show American citizens how well America can move forward once the Democrats are out of the way. Once Voters have secured a Republican majority, watch the behavior of the Republicans and see if they support the President who is working for all American’s. Label the republicans who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Label the RINOs and get them out by replacing them in the next cycle of primaries. Overhaul Congress and Senate Republicans only after we secure a solid majority. Support Trump’s picks for elected office. He is giving this great nation back to the “True Americans” (Those who love the country and want equality, freedom and justice for all as defined by the Constitution and Bill of Rights).

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Aug 14, 2018 22:09:23   #
debeda
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Fit2BTied!

You nailed it! Vote for all republicans supported by Trump. Get an elected Republican majority in the House and Senate. Blow the obstructionist Democrats out of their seats. Show American citizens how well America can move forward once the Democrats are out of the way. Once Voters have secured a Republican majority, watch the behavior of the Republicans and see if they support the President who is working for all American’s. Label the republicans who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Label the RINOs and get them out by replacing them in the next cycle of primaries. Overhaul Congress and Senate Republicans only after we secure a solid majority. Support Trump’s picks for elected office. He is giving This great nation back to the True Americans (Those who love the country and want equality, freedom and justice for all!)
Fit2BTied! br br You nailed it! Vote for all rep... (show quote)



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Aug 14, 2018 22:30:42   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Fit2BTied!

You nailed it! Vote for all republicans supported by Trump. Get an elected Republican majority in the House and Senate. Blow the obstructionist Democrats out of their seats. Show American citizens how well America can move forward once the Democrats are out of the way. Once Voters have secured a Republican majority, watch the behavior of the Republicans and see if they support the President who is working for all American’s. Label the republicans who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Label the RINOs and get them out by replacing them in the next cycle of primaries. Overhaul Congress and Senate Republicans only after we secure a solid majority. Support Trump’s picks for elected office. He is giving this great nation back to the “True Americans” (Those who love the country and want equality, freedom and justice for all as defined by the Constitution and Bill of Rights).
Fit2BTied! br br You nailed it! Vote for all rep... (show quote)
abso-friggin-lutely

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Aug 14, 2018 23:03:49   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
You are confusing what was said. read it again,,,and again if needed...

also what the subject of the comment was.

Hint, something about the past is 1%or more..

hint #2, something orange has no idea what the military got paid, will get paid or should be paid..


I have not been able to find a transcript of his actual words. The media often gets it wrong. So until I do, I will write this under the assumption that the media did the very rare thing of conveying what Trump said correctly. So the gist of it is that instead of saying he gave the largest military pay raise in 10 years, he said he gave a military pay raise for the first time in 10 years. The news you and the media think is the most important is the mistake in replacing the word "largest" with the word "first"; instead of the news that he gave a far larger pay raise than has been given in a decade. This does not seem like the sort of thing to get angry over. I could understand that they would point out his gaff. Maybe to laugh. But why the anger? Is it something to be angry about to give a pay raise to our soldiers? Is it because Trump did something better than Obama? Or is it that Trump didn't consider being a government bureaucrat to be an equal sacrifice as that of being a soldier. Horror of horrors! He had the audacity to give a LARGER pay raise to soldiers than to bureaucrats. The outrage of it!

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Aug 14, 2018 23:13:13   #
debeda
 
JoyV wrote:
I have not been able to find a transcript of his actual words. The media often gets it wrong. So until I do, I will write this under the assumption that the media did the very rare thing of conveying what Trump said correctly. So the gist of it is that instead of saying he gave the largest military pay raise in 10 years, he said he gave a military pay raise for the first time in 10 years. The news you and the media think is the most important is the mistake in replacing the word "largest" with the word "first"; instead of the news that he gave a far larger pay raise than has been given in a decade. This does not seem like the sort of thing to get angry over. I could understand that they would point out his gaff. Maybe to laugh. But why the anger? Is it something to be angry about to give a pay raise to our soldiers? Is it because Trump did something better than Obama? Or is it that Trump didn't consider being a government bureaucrat to be an equal sacrifice as that of being a soldier. Horror of horrors! He had the audacity to give a LARGER pay raise to soldiers than to bureaucrats. The outrage of it!
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Aug 15, 2018 00:20:28   #
Ricktloml
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
(Note: I'm posting no facts or no URLs to open this post - just my opinion and my thoughts)
I voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 election. But it wasn't "My God, where has this guy been - he's the perfect candidate to turn things around in America" at the beginning. In all honesty it was my way of giving the middle finger to Washington DC and the federal government establishment. You know - those wonderful folks who told us they were running for office because they saw what we needed and knew how to make it happen. Then after election day they introduced themselves to the lobbyists and started feeding at the trough of graft and corruption like so many of their peers. They built powerful, well-funded organizations that helped to insure they were reelected time and again and faced no accountability to the people who voted for them.

And then a series of unexpected things happened. He clawed his way through the primaries, surviving Jeb and Ted and Marco. Then he beat Hillary Clinton in the face of withering mainstream media hate and despite hundreds of polls that would have discouraged lesser men. Then, and this was the real shocker, he actually was able to accomplish much of what he told us he would. And that was in the face of a vehemently biased press, an activist Hollywood mob, a lock-step bunch of Democrats, and many establishment Republicans who never wanted President Trump to be elected, much less succeed - since it would rock their safe little worlds they'd spent so much effort putting together.

And so we're here now (pre-midterms), getting ready to see whether or not we can reinforce his ability to get Congress to actually pass some decent legislation and the legions of hate, who were already at 11 on the dial are red-lining their efforts to derail this President. Despite cries of "there's no prejudice in the news media - we're not Fake News!", over 120 newspapers will begin editorially attacking the President on 16 August. Many in the media and sports entertainment world are going non-stop against him. Some lead demonstrations, while others just need an open mike to toss their verbal grenades.

Think about what is actually going on for a minute. They are convinced that they just need to be a little louder, a little more destructive, a little more "in your face" with their hate. And he's still there. And he's still trying to push through the things he promised us that he would. And he's made mistakes. But be honest. If you faced the $#!+ storm he faces every day - would your performance be impeccable? I know mine wouldn't be close.

So I said all that to say this - it all started for me thinking "if we could just throw a wrench into the workings of that mess that is our government, maybe they'd understand just how much we thought they'd been failing us". And now I'm thankful that what may have started out as a joke to many (remember Seth Meyers saying "Donald Trump said that he was running for president as a Republican. That's funny, because I thought he was running as a joke.") has gotten to this point.

I think it's about time the rest of us grabbed hold of the rope and started pulling in the same direction so that we could not only keep our majorities in both houses, but maybe add a few seats in each of them. I think the President has earned it.
(Note: I'm posting no facts or no URLs to open thi... (show quote)


Well said. I have never seen so many hate-filled Democrats and other leftists, especially the media. And they have had their hate stoked so much that they not only hate Trump, they hate the people who work for him, and those who voted for him. I am amazed at the strength that President Trump, (and God bless his family for what they have been put through, it's not only un-American, it's indecent,) has, very few people could stand the constant assault he has had to endure.

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Aug 15, 2018 00:33:41   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
I have not been able to find a transcript of his actual words. The media often gets it wrong. So until I do, I will write this under the assumption that the media did the very rare thing of conveying what Trump said correctly. So the gist of it is that instead of saying he gave the largest military pay raise in 10 years, he said he gave a military pay raise for the first time in 10 years. The news you and the media think is the most important is the mistake in replacing the word "largest" with the word "first"; instead of the news that he gave a far larger pay raise than has been given in a decade. This does not seem like the sort of thing to get angry over. I could understand that they would point out his gaff. Maybe to laugh. But why the anger? Is it something to be angry about to give a pay raise to our soldiers? Is it because Trump did something better than Obama? Or is it that Trump didn't consider being a government bureaucrat to be an equal sacrifice as that of being a soldier. Horror of horrors! He had the audacity to give a LARGER pay raise to soldiers than to bureaucrats. The outrage of it!
I have not been able to find a transcript of his a... (show quote)
And if he was always reading a prepared and edited speech from a teleprompter he might have said it correctly. I prefer the freewheeling version. He's saying it directly to us and we get it even when there's a hiccup now and then.

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Aug 15, 2018 05:52:33   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
(Note: I'm posting no facts or no URLs to open this post - just my opinion and my thoughts)
I voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 election. But it wasn't "My God, where has this guy been - he's the perfect candidate to turn things around in America" at the beginning. In all honesty it was my way of giving the middle finger to Washington DC and the federal government establishment. You know - those wonderful folks who told us they were running for office because they saw what we needed and knew how to make it happen. Then after election day they introduced themselves to the lobbyists and started feeding at the trough of graft and corruption like so many of their peers. They built powerful, well-funded organizations that helped to insure they were reelected time and again and faced no accountability to the people who voted for them.

And then a series of unexpected things happened. He clawed his way through the primaries, surviving Jeb and Ted and Marco. Then he beat Hillary Clinton in the face of withering mainstream media hate and despite hundreds of polls that would have discouraged lesser men. Then, and this was the real shocker, he actually was able to accomplish much of what he told us he would. And that was in the face of a vehemently biased press, an activist Hollywood mob, a lock-step bunch of Democrats, and many establishment Republicans who never wanted President Trump to be elected, much less succeed - since it would rock their safe little worlds they'd spent so much effort putting together.

And so we're here now (pre-midterms), getting ready to see whether or not we can reinforce his ability to get Congress to actually pass some decent legislation and the legions of hate, who were already at 11 on the dial are red-lining their efforts to derail this President. Despite cries of "there's no prejudice in the news media - we're not Fake News!", over 120 newspapers will begin editorially attacking the President on 16 August. Many in the media and sports entertainment world are going non-stop against him. Some lead demonstrations, while others just need an open mike to toss their verbal grenades.

Think about what is actually going on for a minute. They are convinced that they just need to be a little louder, a little more destructive, a little more "in your face" with their hate. And he's still there. And he's still trying to push through the things he promised us that he would. And he's made mistakes. But be honest. If you faced the $#!+ storm he faces every day - would your performance be impeccable? I know mine wouldn't be close.

So I said all that to say this - it all started for me thinking "if we could just throw a wrench into the workings of that mess that is our government, maybe they'd understand just how much we thought they'd been failing us". And now I'm thankful that what may have started out as a joke to many (remember Seth Meyers saying "Donald Trump said that he was running for president as a Republican. That's funny, because I thought he was running as a joke.") has gotten to this point.

I think it's about time the rest of us grabbed hold of the rope and started pulling in the same direction so that we could not only keep our majorities in both houses, but maybe add a few seats in each of them. I think the President has earned it.
(Note: I'm posting no facts or no URLs to open thi... (show quote)



Spot on , with you in this as well!

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Aug 15, 2018 05:57:36   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
EmilyD wrote:
Smoke and mirrors....fog and confusion. Blinders. Anger. That is how Satan works...and he's trying real hard now. We know what the ending is, though, don't we!



Yes Emily, we know the ending! Satan is working overtime to take all he can with him.
Gets more evil everyday. Almost time to go home!

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Aug 15, 2018 06:38:21   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
In some ways, I think he already has. Not a bad idea. It's difficult to call yourself an (R) and then expect to be on the same page as RINO Ryan, or Romney, or Rove. I see a pattern here.

Maybe just weed out the unloyal party poopers
That hold positions of trust.

Right now is not the time to clean house when every Republican vote is critically needed for the American way of life to continue.

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Aug 15, 2018 07:16:06   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Wow! This thread gives me hope for the future of America.
Thanks Conservative posters.

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Aug 15, 2018 07:16:56   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
debeda wrote:
All TRUE. I can't even think about benghazi without both being in a rage and being in tears. That those guys fought and fought and fought for hours and hours SURE that the Calvary was on the way and NO ONE CAME!!!! DIRECTLY due to Obama and Clinton's stand down orders. Disgusting. I hope both of them are put in a situation like that sometime. Justice.

Rescue was only 15 minutes away but instead of a "GO" order they got a "STAND DOWN" order instead.

That is the main reason NO MILITARY OR
EX-MILITARY VOTED FOR CLINTON. There are millions of ex-military and military voters.

The biggest reason President Trump is now OUR PRESIDENT.

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Aug 15, 2018 07:40:11   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
JoyV wrote:
He was handed a thriving economy!!!! The GDP was 1.3% when Trump was elected.

Now as to the deficit. Some people think that if revenue exceeds spending, the deficit will end immediately. But they don't take into account the interest on the debt. Turning around a multitrillion dollar debt can't be done in 2 years without supernatural intervention. But so far under Trump, the deficit increase is slowing. In nearly 2 years it went from $19.8 Trillion to just under $21 Trillion. During Obama's 8 years it went from just under $10 Trillion to $19.8 Trillion. That is a more than 9$ Trillion dollar increase over 8 years. So far under Trump, there has been a $1.2 Trillion increase. If the rate of increase remains the same, the deficit would reach $25.8% by the end of 8 years; or a $4.8% increase.

BUT. At the same time that the deficit has increased under Trump, the revenue has also been increasing. Since the tax cuts, deregulations, and foreign trade policies changes have no been in effect long; the revenue increases could go much higher as time goes on. This will cut into the deficit.

What trade agreements are you referring to which built our economy? NAFTA? It harmed our economy and caused many American small businesses to struggle! Trade agreements with China? They are very slanted in China's favor.

Agriculture? There has been some benefitted, some harmed, but most unaffected.

Steel and aluminum? Many steel plants are reopening, despite the misquoting and then fact checking the misquote. Trump said steel plants. The media has been saying US Steel, which is a particular steel company. No. US Steel is not reopening 7 plants. But if you go by what Trump said, and not limit it ONLY to US Steel, you will see that he did not overstate it. Steel and aluminum prices which initially rose when the tariff's were announced are now falling. AND the manufacture of that steel and aluminum is now starting to be done by Americans! Current aluminum price per pound is $1.77. Current plate steel price per pound is $0.40, sheet is $0.53, and coil is $0.45.

Some of the new, reopening, or expanding steel plants in the US include:
Nucor: opening in Florida ($240 million), Kentucky ($176 million), Ohio ($85 million), Arkansas ($230 million) and Illinois ($180 million).
Kobe Steel: Ohio ($400 million), Kentucky ($46.7 million).
Steel Dynamics: Indiana ($75 million), Virginia ($28 million), Mississippi ($100 million).
Charter Steel: Ohio ($150 million).
NLMK: Pennsylvania (?).
Steel Ventures: Kentucky ($16 million).
Skyline Steel: Mississippi ($15 million).
Steel Technologies: Tennessee ($18 million).
Nippon Steel: Tennessee (?).
Bilstein: Kentucky ($139 million).

And here is a 2018 map of steel plants.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1l83KG05Yxac2ZL9CaqwJO1oahUk&ll=43.162680926321485%2C-88.33847690243829&z=4

You ask, "So are those working class people who expected the orange thing to help them happy now?"
You BETCHA!!!!
He was handed a thriving economy!!!! The GDP was 1... (show quote)

Great post.

Returning and new jobs = lower unemployment = more income tax and Social Security paid in = fewer welfare and food stamps paid out = more money to pay down on the federal loans = lower interest rates = stronger economy = more investments in creating new jobs = lower unemployment....an so on and on in the progressive circle.

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Aug 15, 2018 07:44:09   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Fit2BTied!

You nailed it! Vote for all republicans supported by Trump. Get an elected Republican majority in the House and Senate. Blow the obstructionist Democrats out of their seats. Show American citizens how well America can move forward once the Democrats are out of the way. Once Voters have secured a Republican majority, watch the behavior of the Republicans and see if they support the President who is working for all American’s. Label the republicans who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Label the RINOs and get them out by replacing them in the next cycle of primaries. Overhaul Congress and Senate Republicans only after we secure a solid majority. Support Trump’s picks for elected office. He is giving this great nation back to the “True Americans” (Those who love the country and want equality, freedom and justice for all as defined by the Constitution and Bill of Rights).
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Good post.

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