No wall, shut down the govt (Page 2): Another great idea. It can be done with patience and perseverance, but time is runnng out.

Carol Kelly

Mike Easterday wrote:

President Trump should use the War Powers Act. Then Congress can't stop the Wall.

Another great idea. It can be done with patience and perseverance, but time is runnng out.

Sicilianthing

Mike Easterday wrote:

President Trump should use the War Powers Act. Then Congress can't stop the Wall.

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bullseye, I’ve said it plenty of times, he needs to use his BAlls and Drop the Hammer

Declare a national emergency Flat OUT

donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa

Carol Kelly wrote:

I say very good. If Trump doesn’t shut down the government, without a wall, the Mexicans, etc. will shut it down when they overwhelm us. Name your poison.

The more it is down the less it costs.

Lonewolf

whats going to hurt trump is Mexico is supposed to pay for the wall

vernon wrote:

I don't think it will hurt the president one bit because the congress will be shutting it down for not including the wall.I hope the president shuts it down until he gets the wall all he has to do is is keep the necessary depts operating.Then he does away with all the depts that are not necessary Like the dept of education and other depts that are just money eaters.Then no work no pay .then lets see how the demorats handle the heat.

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

Carol Kelly wrote:

I say very good. If Trump doesn’t shut down the government, without a wall, the Mexicans, etc. will shut it down when they overwhelm us. Name your poison.

He cant, the progressives will gain more power in the mid-terms.

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

permafrost wrote:

I know that a right winger will never look at these 16 photo points.. but for the fun of it i will present this for your appraisal..

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/02/open-borders_n_5737722.html?slideshow=true#gallery/364856/0

There is no country without sovereign borders. I am not sure what you fcking people think how this is going to end but your little cushy lifestyles are going to get rocked to the core when tge debt bubble explodes due to all these false promises made by your self serving politicians.

Your little power point presentation is complete BS Perm! The United States is so strapped with debt, your open border policy will end the United States as you know it. I guess that is what you Nazi fascist type want now.

We will continue to become a 3rd world cesspool of socialist corruption and shit. The promotion of ending the United States in that video is treason. The people who put that out should be arrested, put on trail and then shot in the back of the head if found guilty of sedition.

Carol Kelly

Mike Easterday wrote:

President Trump should use the War Powers Act. Then Congress can't stop the Wall.

Good idea. And he said again today that he will shut down and not worry about the political ramifications. I think he means it. If we don’t shut down the borders, after the New Mexican President goes into office, we’ll have an invasion. That would be a declaration of war with Mexico. Why don’t the dumbos just let us have the wall? America wants it. But we need to build it better than its being done because they’re climbing up and over.

Carol Kelly

vettelover wrote:

There is no country without sovereign borders. I ... (show quote)

They don’t know what they’ll get, but it won’t be what they want. You are so correct.

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

Carol Kelly wrote:

They don’t know what they’ll get, but it won’t be what they want. You are so correct.

As the old saying goes, "be careful for what you wish for".

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Mike Easterday wrote:

President Trump should use the War Powers Act. Then Congress can't stop the Wall.

That sounds like a plan!

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Peewee wrote:

That sounds like a plan!

Either way you slice it, it looks like President Trump is going to have to make some very hard decesions if America is going to remain a free nation or become a Socialist dictatorship.

Grandpaw always said if you give an inch the enemy will take a mile.

I pray President Trump is wise enough to see the enemy in within our borders already, inviting illegal criminal aliens to share the "pie in the sky" and end up slaves to a dictatorship. Like what happened in Cuba.

pafret Loc: Northeast

old marine wrote:

Either way you slice it, it looks like President Trump is going to have to make some very hard decesions if America is going to remain a free nation or become a Socialist dictatorship.

Grandpaw always said if you give an inch the enemy will take a mile.

I pray President Trump is wise enough to see the enemy in within our borders already, inviting illegal criminal aliens to share the "pie in the sky" and end up slaves to a dictatorship. Like what happened in Cuba.

If Trump uses the war powers option then he has converted our government into a dictatorship. One of Obama's E.O. established this war power option. It hasn't been used an so has not been challenged as to its Constitutionality. It would likely fail since Congress has the authority to declare war, not the President.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

vettelover wrote:

There is no country without sovereign borders. I ... (show quote)

Oh, come on.. look a little. what is destroying our nation is the giving of all the wealth and power to a very small number of rich people..

The tax gift and proposals which I hope never pass will sack all the remaining value from the few things left for the average Ameican..

Mouldy has a reply on another thread which shows the Republican to tax everything left.. Including bicycle tires..

the open border idea is far from real, but think what it could do.. the BP is the largest and most costly police force we have.. How about get rid of the whole thing?

Sicilianthing

old marine wrote:

Either way you slice it, it looks like President Trump is going to have to make some very hard decesions if America is going to remain a free nation or become a Socialist dictatorship.

Grandpaw always said if you give an inch the enemy will take a mile.

I pray President Trump is wise enough to see the enemy in within our borders already, inviting illegal criminal aliens to share the "pie in the sky" and end up slaves to a dictatorship. Like what happened in Cuba.

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A false flag or worse will pave the way for Martial Law before this.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Carol Kelly wrote:

Good idea. And he said again today that he will shut down and not worry about the political ramifications. I think he means it. If we donât shut down the borders, after the New Mexican President goes into office, weâll have an invasion. That would be a declaration of war with Mexico. Why donât the dumbos just let us have the wall? America wants it. But we need to build it better than its being done because theyâre climbing up and over.

carol,

the wall will not be built..

Why??? Because the money end of the Republican party does not want it built.. the rich and the corporations want as many warm bodies looking for work as possible..

Wages have been flat from the 70s, they want them kept that way, even reduced.

And are working to that end..

The Wall.. Hate to even repeat it but the wall is a waste of money.. Drugs? a 1000 ways to breach the wall. even a kid could send over drugs with no problem.. 30 ft high? a ballon could move a drug packet easly..

People.. boats, tunnels, plains... will add to the cost of these desperate people but they would continue..

Smuggling people... never will end..

Much more effective ways to spend that money then on a wall.