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Mar 4, 2014 15:41:50   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
ginnyt wrote:
I have given this some thought; according to Greek philosophy there are three virtues. In my religion, there are 7. Indeed love is an important emotion, but one can not truly love without patience, kindness, integrity, and above all humility. We can not control love, we do not select the person we bestow with our love; but we can be patient with everyone, show kindness in our words and deeds, integrity in our daily dealing with others, and always be humble knowing that our greatness is only possible because of God, those that love us, and those we work beside. To admit an error is not a sign of weakness, but rather the strength to realize that we are not perfect.
I have given this some thought; according to Greek... (show quote)


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Mar 4, 2014 15:51:36   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
cant beleve wrote:
Why does my kjv say charity every place your saying love?


Because Charity is showing love. It is translated in newer translations as Love. It is included in the Greek word Agape or agapio, (sp) there are at least three words used for love in the Bible. Agapio which is Gods unconditional love.
There is Eros, which Is love of the object, it's a because of love; in other words, I love you because you are so rich, or so popular, or because you are so beautiful.
This not a lasting love because, looks change, money can be lost, and our popularity is fickle, just ask movie stars.

The third kind of Love is Philo. This is the love of family, brother-sister love.. A way to remember this kind of love is to remember it like this.

Philo del phia the city of brotherly love.

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Mar 4, 2014 16:16:31   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
You are so right Iggy, we all come to a death- that is certain. There are some who only place stock in the life they live here on earth, knowing deep down there is a God, but still living for only this time. It is a promise to all that upon the finale judgment of their life, their knee will bend to the Holiness and Majesty of our Lord. The Lord will ask: "Weren't you told of me, because I don't know you."
Iggy Rat wrote:
One day EVERYONE will kneel before Christ. You will beg him on that day and he will say "I never knew you."

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Mar 4, 2014 16:48:07   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
rhomin57 wrote:
You are so right Iggy, we all come to a death- that is certain. There are some who only place stock in the life they live here on earth, knowing deep down there is a God, but still living for only this time. It is a promise to all that upon the finale judgment of their life, their knee will bend to the Holiness and Majesty of our Lord. The Lord will ask: "Weren't you told of me, because I don't know you."


1 Cor. 15:19

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Mar 4, 2014 17:07:46   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Thanks thats AWESOME!!!
Armageddun wrote:
Because Charity is showing love. It is translated in newer translations as Love. It is included in the Greek word Agape or agapio, (sp) there are at least three words used for love in the Bible. Agapio which is Gods unconditional love.
There is Eros, which Is love of the object, it's a because of love; in other words, I love you because you are so rich, or so popular, or because you are so beautiful.
This not a lasting love because, looks change, money can be lost, and our popularity is fickle, just ask movie stars.

The third kind of Love is Philo. This is the love of family, brother-sister love.. A way to remember this kind of love is to remember it like this.

Philo del phia the city of brotherly love.
Because Charity is showing love. It is translated ... (show quote)

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Mar 4, 2014 17:07:53   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Thanks thats AWESOME!!!
Armageddun wrote:
Because Charity is showing love. It is translated in newer translations as Love. It is included in the Greek word Agape or agapio, (sp) there are at least three words used for love in the Bible. Agapio which is Gods unconditional love.
There is Eros, which Is love of the object, it's a because of love; in other words, I love you because you are so rich, or so popular, or because you are so beautiful.
This not a lasting love because, looks change, money can be lost, and our popularity is fickle, just ask movie stars.

The third kind of Love is Philo. This is the love of family, brother-sister love.. A way to remember this kind of love is to remember it like this.

Philo del phia the city of brotherly love.
Because Charity is showing love. It is translated ... (show quote)

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Mar 4, 2014 19:35:27   #
Vacaman
 
ginnyt wrote:
I have given this some thought; according to Greek philosophy there are three virtues. In my religion, there are 7. Indeed love is an important emotion, but one can not truly love without patience, kindness, integrity, and above all humility. We can not control love, we do not select the person we bestow with our love; but we can be patient with everyone, show kindness in our words and deeds, integrity in our daily dealing with others, and always be humble knowing that our greatness is only possible because of God, those that love us, and those we work beside. To admit an error is not a sign of weakness, but rather the strength to realize that we are not perfect.
I have given this some thought; according to Greek... (show quote)


Strength, integrity, honor, forgivness, respect, love all great virtues. 1 Corinthians 13:1 about sums it up. It is a very tough time to be kind and loving always.

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Mar 4, 2014 19:45:59   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Vacaman wrote:
Strength, integrity, honor, forgivness, respect, love all great virtues. 1 Corinthians 13:1 about sums it up. It is a very tough time to be kind and loving always.


Tzedakah is not the original word used in those verses, but I guess the translation of charity is close. This, I can agree is important and it is something that we control; unlike an emotion.

BTW I do like those verses; so pretty!

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Mar 4, 2014 19:49:52   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Vacaman wrote:
Strength, integrity, honor, forgivness, respect, love all great virtues. 1 Corinthians 13:1 about sums it up. It is a very tough time to be kind and loving always.


You are so very correct. I have found that the only way to follow these virtues Is to remember Col. 3:17.

We are incapable of loving unconditionally without the power of the Holy Spirit. Even then if we allow anger to overtake us we blow it. I keep telling myself, If I am going to be a real Christian I must allow the fruits of the spirit flow through me. Gal. 5:22.

If I remember I am an ambassador for Christ it can work. If I try on my own, I fail. The Apostle Paul wrestled with the same problem: Rom 7:15-25. Hope this helps you. It does me. I just need to remember to apply it.

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Mar 4, 2014 19:58:42   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
ginnyt wrote:
Tzedakah is not the original word used in those verses, but I guess the translation of charity is close. This, I can agree is important and it is something that we control; unlike an emotion.

BTW I do like those verses; so pretty!


Is Tzedakah the word for love or charity?

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Mar 4, 2014 21:42:05   #
Vacaman
 
Armageddun wrote:
Is Tzedakah the word for love or charity?


I don't think I have read the word, but I looked it up and it is antient Hebrew for charity. It would have been used in the original bible and Dead Sea scrolls. It appears in the Torah!

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Mar 4, 2014 21:53:55   #
rumitoid
 
Greek philosophy is the ground for gnosticism, the somewhat disguised vile enemy of Christianity. For those who do not study scripture at depth, gnosticism seems viable.

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Mar 4, 2014 22:00:44   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Armageddun wrote:
Is Tzedakah the word for love or charity?


Actually, both sorta. It is the spirit of giving without condition. So it can mean love, kindness, charity, all of those things. It does not have a real English translation. In a Jewish home, we have a jar that is filled by visitors and family of change; it is given to the needy. This is an act of Tzedakah. When we go to our kitchens to prepare food for a neighbor, this is considered Tzedakah. Stopping to help someone with car problems.... get the idea? When we sit with the sick, when we put a bandage on a child's scrape, when we do not return insult for insult or a smack across the face...... The Hebrew word "tzedakah" is commonly translated as "charity" or "tithe." But this is misleading. "Charity" implies that your heart motivates you to go beyond the call of duty. "Tzedakah," however, literally means "righteousness" -- doing the right thing. A "tzaddik," likewise, is a righteous person, someone who fulfills all his obligations, whether in the mood or not. This was not an easy thing to explain, but I hope that I did not confuse you.

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Mar 4, 2014 22:06:44   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Many a Christian is 'waiting' for something to happen like rapture, great tribulation, Jesus to ascend from heaven in full view of everyone, etc, yet, what if they were to believe that that has already come about in a manner they did not see, or understand, even misinterpreted?
Living life not stuck on "Waiting for Something" to occur would surely cause a believer to communicate more closely and more often with the Lord if each day was a worldly blind curve with no escape except their daily Salvation.
What do you think? Maybe not enough of this?
rumitoid wrote:
Greek philosophy is the ground for gnosticism, the somewhat disguised vile enemy of Christianity. For those who do not study scripture at depth, gnosticism seems viable.

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Mar 4, 2014 22:24:33   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
ginnyt wrote:
Actually, both sorta. It is the spirit of giving without condition. So it can mean love, kindness, charity, all of those things. It does not have a real English translation. In a Jewish home, we have a jar that is filled by visitors and family of change; it is given to the needy. This is an act of Tzedakah. When we go to our kitchens to prepare food for a neighbor, this is considered Tzedakah. Stopping to help someone with car problems.... get the idea? When we sit with the sick, when we put a bandage on a child's scrape, when we do not return insult for insult or a smack across the face...... The Hebrew word "tzedakah" is commonly translated as "charity" or "tithe." But this is misleading. "Charity" implies that your heart motivates you to go beyond the call of duty. "Tzedakah," however, literally means "righteousness" -- doing the right thing. A "tzaddik," likewise, is a righteous person, someone who fulfills all his obligations, whether in the mood or not. This was not an easy thing to explain, but I hope that I did not confuse you.
Actually, both sorta. It is the spirit of giving ... (show quote)


Thanks. Can I copy this to a file?

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