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Mar 4, 2014 22:36:47   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Armageddun wrote:
Thanks. Can I copy this to a file?


Sure. Did it help, or confuse?

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Mar 4, 2014 23:03:15   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
ginnyt wrote:
Sure. Did it help, or confuse?


Very helpful and interesting. Thanks

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Mar 5, 2014 00:23:36   #
Vacaman
 
ginnyt wrote:
Actually, both sorta. It is the spirit of giving without condition. So it can mean love, kindness, charity, all of those things. It does not have a real English t***slation. In a Jewish home, we have a jar that is filled by visitors and family of change; it is given to the needy. This is an act of Tzedakah. When we go to our kitchens to prepare food for a neighbor, this is considered Tzedakah. Stopping to help someone with car problems.... get the idea? When we sit with the sick, when we put a bandage on a child's scrape, when we do not return insult for insult or a smack across the face...... The Hebrew word "tzedakah" is commonly t***slated as "charity" or "tithe." But this is misleading. "Charity" implies that your heart motivates you to go beyond the call of duty. "Tzedakah," however, literally means "righteousness" -- doing the right thing. A "tzaddik," likewise, is a righteous person, someone who fulfills all his obligations, whether in the mood or not. This was not an easy thing to explain, but I hope that I did not confuse you.
Actually, both sorta. It is the spirit of giving ... (show quote)


Brilliant, thank you!

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Mar 5, 2014 00:37:42   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Vacaman wrote:
Brilliant, thank you!


You are entirely welcome. I was stumbling for the right words and I had my fingers crossed that I had not confused the issue.

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Mar 5, 2014 03:59:14   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
rumitoid wrote:
Greek philosophy is the ground for gnosticism, the somewhat disguised vile enemy of Christianity. For those who do not study scripture at depth, gnosticism seems viable.

Yep. I was raised pretty fundamentalist protestant, by open-minded people. It's amazing to me that the established churches were able to suppress it so successfully. There's a lot of t***h in Gnosticism. Jesus told us we'd have to SEARCH for the word. That would seem to imply that it won't all be laid out in just the one book. There are too many biblical indicators otherwise.

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Mar 5, 2014 04:00:31   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
Vacaman wrote:
Brilliant, thank you!


Thank you for sharing! What a wonderful tradition.

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Mar 5, 2014 08:55:45   #
bahmer
 
ginnyt wrote:
Actually, both sorta. It is the spirit of giving without condition. So it can mean love, kindness, charity, all of those things. It does not have a real English t***slation. In a Jewish home, we have a jar that is filled by visitors and family of change; it is given to the needy. This is an act of Tzedakah. When we go to our kitchens to prepare food for a neighbor, this is considered Tzedakah. Stopping to help someone with car problems.... get the idea? When we sit with the sick, when we put a bandage on a child's scrape, when we do not return insult for insult or a smack across the face...... The Hebrew word "tzedakah" is commonly t***slated as "charity" or "tithe." But this is misleading. "Charity" implies that your heart motivates you to go beyond the call of duty. "Tzedakah," however, literally means "righteousness" -- doing the right thing. A "tzaddik," likewise, is a righteous person, someone who fulfills all his obligations, whether in the mood or not. This was not an easy thing to explain, but I hope that I did not confuse you.
Actually, both sorta. It is the spirit of giving ... (show quote)


I could sit and read your explanations all day. This is what I meant by so much tradition and interpretation that has fallen by the wayside for the gentiles. Even thought we are Christian we miss so much by not having the Jewish traditions and the Hebrew language infused into the church body. These Hebrew words and Jewish traditions would have gone a long way in dispelling an awful lot of misinterpretation and anguish over the centuries would it not. We could have understood each other better and been more in tune. I have a friend who is now remarried, in fact he was going through his divorce and living with us when my son was k**led by a hit and run driver. Anyway he and his new wife have a music ministry and they are in Israel somewhere near Jerusalem with a church over there. They are staying with a Christian Jewish family and studying Hebrew over there. I believe that he and his wife are living a wonderful experience that few get a chance to enjoy. Thanks again ginnyt.

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Apr 6, 2014 10:36:12   #
larry
 
Retired669 wrote:
Bible Thumpers like you haven't come to realize your god you believe in is a fictional character from the stone ages and the book you believe in is nothing but myths and fables also from the stone ages. You need to spend your time on improving your life, mine is fine the way it is and all without church, the bible and bible thumpers.... :thumbup:


What will you do when this government insists that you must worship the Beast on Sunday or you will not be able to buy or sell anything?
There will not be any physical implementation of the Mark, it will be your willingness to worship the Beast by calling Sunday the Sabbath, when God calls Saturday the Sabbath.
Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast, and Saturday (Sabbath) worship is the Seal of God.

Take your choice, follow the Commandments of God, or the commandments of the Beast.

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Apr 6, 2014 20:30:56   #
Ricktloml
 
ginnyt wrote:
I just read the reference and I agree with you. Now, can you answer a question for me.. Please? I have been following this thread and people have spoken of a Rapture. Please tell me where to find that in the bible. Thank you.


The word rapture is not found in the Bible, I suggest you type in where the rapture doctrine came from, it is a controversial doctrine

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