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Obama Tells the World We Aren’t Going to Do Anything About Invasion of Ukraine
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Mar 4, 2014 11:03:13   #
Randall_S Loc: Big Apple
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
See how just a few words can make a would be military move step back.

One dose have to say that Obama has put some doubt in Putin's head.

No rattling of sabers by Obama just a few words.

Yes it is all about the Money.


Completely absurd analysis. Obama is lucky if Putin allows him to keep his job. The amount of info they MUST have on him and his background etc. would be devastating.

Russia is going to get exactly what they want, and Obama can't do anything, because if he does they'll let out a leak to get him impeached or forced to resign.

Also consider that Obama has made enemies with KSA, Israel, and Jordan (among others). These countries know our secrets better than possibly anyone else, spare the Brits. If/when they choose to get their revenge, it will be swift and harsh. Also, consider that all three of these countries have gone under the Russian nuclear umbrella.

Obama, and America, are now in a serious and potentially devastating bind.

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Mar 4, 2014 11:05:41   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Yes Randall

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Mar 4, 2014 11:05:48   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Randall_S wrote:
Completely absurd analysis. Obama is lucky if Putin allows him to keep his job. The amount of info they MUST have on him and his background etc. would be devastating.

Russia is going to get exactly what they want, and Obama can't do anything, because if he does they'll let out a leak to get him impeached or forced to resign.

Also consider that Obama has made enemies with KSA, Israel, and Jordan (among others). These countries know our secrets better than possibly anyone else, spare the Brits. If/when they choose to get their revenge, it will be swift and harsh. Also, consider that all three of these countries have gone under the Russian nuclear umbrella.

Obama, and America, are now in a serious and potentially devastating bind.
Completely absurd analysis. Obama is lucky if Put... (show quote)

And that's an under-statement!!!

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Mar 4, 2014 11:17:47   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Randall_S wrote:
Completely absurd analysis. Obama is lucky if Putin allows him to keep his job. The amount of info they MUST have on him and his background etc. would be devastating.

Russia is going to get exactly what they want, and Obama can't do anything, because if he does they'll let out a leak to get him impeached or forced to resign.

Also consider that Obama has made enemies with KSA, Israel, and Jordan (among others). These countries know our secrets better than possibly anyone else, spare the Brits. If/when they choose to get their revenge, it will be swift and harsh. Also, consider that all three of these countries have gone under the Russian nuclear umbrella.

Obama, and America, are now in a serious and potentially devastating bind.
Completely absurd analysis. Obama is lucky if Put... (show quote)


The best advice I can give you is save your money & don't bet on that out come.

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Mar 4, 2014 11:21:36   #
Randall_S Loc: Big Apple
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
The best advice I can give you is save your money & don't bet on that out come.


Point taken. But not that one you suggested.

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Mar 4, 2014 11:46:24   #
wishamako1
 
War at anytime is bad with the exception the people that make money from them, and its them that keep the war going, but if you go to war you need to finish the job, the 3 wars you mentioned we pulled out early, I was in the Vietnam war saw plenty of combat and we always won the battles but again politics got involved, we pulled out and left S Vietnam at the mercy of the north, but why are we sending billions to the Ukraine, 1/26...1968

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Mar 4, 2014 12:01:47   #
Randall_S Loc: Big Apple
 
Guess that National Review liked my work:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/372353/eurasianist-threat-robert-zubrin

My article: http://nyyrc.com/blog/2014/03/what-is-really-going-on-in-ukraine/

Both featured the National Bolshevist flag. Here's what I wrote...

"The flag of Dugin’s National Bolshevik Party is essentially the Nazi flag, except that the swastika is replaced by the hammer and sickle."

And this guy wrote,
"This open self-identification with Nazism is also shown clearly in the NBP flag, which looks exactly like a Nazi flag, with a red background surrounding a white circle, except that the black swastika at the center is replaced by a black hammer and sickle."

And we both put the flag as the graphic in the article.

It's not everyday I put words into people's mouths. HAHAHA!

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Mar 4, 2014 12:37:38   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
SchoonerPete wrote:
Go back to the USSR type of government and then you won't have to worry about all those evil corporations...that's what you seem to be advocating.


Corporations function more like the military and less like a democratic government. So why should they be able to claim rights for themselves apart from the rights of real persons?
Actually the USSR could be considered just one giant corporation. Is that what you want the US to be?

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Mar 4, 2014 13:16:17   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
buffalo wrote:
Corporations function more like the military and less like a democratic government. So why should they be able to claim rights for themselves apart from the rights of real persons?
Actually the USSR could be considered just one giant corporation. Is that what you want the US to be?

So, tell me, buff, what is a military or corporation made of? Could either exist without "real persons"?

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Mar 4, 2014 13:46:36   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Sorry duplicate post

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Mar 4, 2014 14:03:07   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Russia has pulled training troops.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/178091#.UxYivpvn9jo

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Mar 4, 2014 14:14:38   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
ginnyt wrote:


Great source Ginny.

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Mar 4, 2014 15:25:34   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
So, tell me, buff, what is a military or corporation made of? Could either exist without "real persons"?


Is it fair for corporations to use money as a free speech right that influences the outcome of elections and even government policy that its workers might not agree with or even have a detrimental effect on those workers, yet they have no say in how that money is used? Is the military run democratically?

I am talking about giant corporations here. Is it fair for government to use taxpayer money to bail out GM or the too big to fail banks that acted irresponsibly or even criminally and yet no one has been prosecuted or jailed. Is it fair that corporate welfare, again paid for with taxpayer money, dwarf entitlements that are supposed to help poor and needy INDIVIDUALS? Is it fair that politicians have raided and robbed the SS Trust Fund to bail out too big to fail banks and corporations and doled out billions to so-called failed green projects of corporations as political payback for supporting Obama? Just asking.

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Mar 4, 2014 19:14:30   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
ginnyt wrote:


The nations today are very dependent on each other.

The worlds Big Businesses & Big Bank want a smooth flow of money through their hands. People like Putin mess that up.

Both want to control the world. The Biggest Player Wins.

Putin is just a small fish to Big Money.

I like most feel that there may not be much in it for us.

We may not gain but for most of us it will not be any worse than we have it now.

There are lots of peace time projects that can be done with the money save by not going to war, or having expensive standing army's.

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Mar 4, 2014 19:31:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Why address your comments to me? I was not party to the discussion on big business. I supplied a current update on the Ukraine.


Floyd Brown wrote:
The nations today are very dependent on each other.

The worlds Big Businesses & Big Bank want a smooth flow of money through their hands. People like Putin mess that up.

Both want to control the world. The Biggest Player Wins.

Putin is just a small fish to Big Money.

I like most feel that there may not be much in it for us.

We may not gain but for most of us it will not be any worse than we have it now.

There are lots of peace time projects that can be done with the money save by not going to war, or having expensive standing army's.
The nations today are very dependent on each other... (show quote)

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