Roe v Wade
Jul 13, 2018 12:42:40 #
Morgan wrote:
If pro-lifers are really pro-life, they should endorse equal pay for women, and increase the minimum wage, when one considers the majority of abortions are done by single women in poverty status. Guess they're not really wanting or seeking that wonderful free ride of food stamps.
Question, Morgan: Where did you pick up your understanding of morality? Seriously.
Jul 13, 2018 12:43:47 #
oldroy wrote:
This is by far one of your most simple minded posts of all time. You keep saying that there is no God and then you call Him the most prodigious abortionist ever. I call your words simple minded in that you finish up saying he performs that 20% of abortion through miscarriage.
Nice try, Kevyn but not good at all.
Nice try, Kevyn but not good at all.
If so, oldroy, God the Almighty must be a VERY loving Deity. He didn't abort Kevyn.
Jul 13, 2018 12:55:42 #
Marsinah wrote:
So we are now living in reality the futurist imagination of Walter M. Miller, Jr.
It seems so Marsinah.. Although he committed suicide I don’t think it was assisted..??
Do you know there are 8 states that allow it??
It is called assisted physicians death...
Morbid to some, I support the persons right to a dignified death rather than what that person who is terminal had to endure. .. I mean its not like we don't put animals down when in pain and dying...
Jul 13, 2018 13:02:03 #
lindajoy wrote:
It seems so Marsinah.. Although he committed suicide I don’t think it was assisted..??
Do you know there are 8 states that allow it??
It is called assisted physicians death...
Morbid to some, I support the persons right to a dignified death rather than what that person who is terminal had to endure. .. I mean its not like we don't put animals down when in pain and dying...
Do you know there are 8 states that allow it??
It is called assisted physicians death...
Morbid to some, I support the persons right to a dignified death rather than what that person who is terminal had to endure. .. I mean its not like we don't put animals down when in pain and dying...
When did humans become as animals?
Did you read the ending to "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?
Jul 13, 2018 13:06:26 #
JoyV wrote:
Late term abortions are not illegal in 7 states an... (show quote)
I believe late term abortions should not be allowed in any state..
What you say here I have said as well, but I was debating the fact the dems are falsely accusing the placement of the next SC Justice with fear monkering tactics of they will over turn Roe ..
I feel as you in that what may happen is it will go back to the states for them to establish guidelines but they can not refuse an abortion ...
Jul 13, 2018 13:06:36 #
TrueAmerican wrote:
If she does not wish to practice protection agains... (show quote)
Yet the unwanted child has a high likelihood of becoming a burden to society that will cost tens (hundreds) of thousands of dollars in welfare.
The morning after pill being readily available (for $10) to any woman who screws up and has unprotected or unwanted sex is actually the best of the best in terms of solutions for even those who feel strongly about pro life. That would cost a tiny fraction of what abortions do.
Jul 13, 2018 13:07:23 #
Ranger7374 wrote:
That is a very delicate subject. Morally it is wrong. We know it is murder. However, the body of a woman, is their body.
Let me ask you a question and it would be extreme, when a person upon the land decides he/she does not want to live anymore, who, what, where, how does anyone in Our Constitutional Republic form of government have jurisdiction over his/her decision?
Let me ask you a question and it would be extreme, when a person upon the land decides he/she does not want to live anymore, who, what, where, how does anyone in Our Constitutional Republic form of government have jurisdiction over his/her decision?
Ranger7374... The 10th Amendment shows that the jurisdiction over a person's suicide falls to each Individual State, or their Local Gobernments:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Jul 13, 2018 13:13:34 #
Marsinah wrote:
When did humans become as animals?
Did you read the ending to "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?
Did you read the ending to "A Canticle for Leibowitz"?
Good grief, Marsinah, I was just saying we don’t allow animals to suffer, why would we let people
Suffer???
Yes, I did read his book..I enjoyed it very much and wish he had done more... I took this quote from his book as it rang true!!
“But neither infinite power nor infinite wisdom could bestow godhood upon men. For that there would have to be infinite love as well.”
Do you know why he commited suicide? I can’t remember...
Jul 13, 2018 13:20:56 #
lindajoy wrote:
Good grief, Marsinah, I was just saying we don’t allow animals to suffer, why would we let people
Suffer???
Yes, I did read his book..I enjoyed it very much and wish he had done more... I took this quote from his book as it rang true!!
“But neither infinite power nor infinite wisdom could bestow godhood upon men. For that there would have to be infinite love as well.”
Do you know why he commited suicide? I can’t remember...
Suffer???
Yes, I did read his book..I enjoyed it very much and wish he had done more... I took this quote from his book as it rang true!!
“But neither infinite power nor infinite wisdom could bestow godhood upon men. For that there would have to be infinite love as well.”
Do you know why he commited suicide? I can’t remember...
If you are "just saying" we don't allow animals to suffer, why would we let people, then aren't you also bestowing godhood upon men?
It is at the end of "A Canticle for Leibowitz", lj, that those suffering from great amounts of fallout, are advised to commit suicide. That is when the abbot states (about 1900 years post apocalypse): "...And society alone determines whether an act is wrong or not? Dearest God, how did those two heresies get back into the world after all this time?"
No I don't know. I'd like to read a good biography of him. Perhaps he, too, was disgusted with the human race. At any rate, it had nothing to do with "suffering pain".
By the way, lj, I never put my pets down. Except one, and that was a long time ago.
Jul 13, 2018 15:02:23 #
Jul 13, 2018 15:04:53 #
lindajoy wrote:
Kevvyyy, please read my post over again..
Some potential fathers want the child being aborted but he can not force the mother to carry it to term....
Got it ??? Understand now??
Some potential fathers want the child being aborted but he can not force the mother to carry it to term....
Got it ??? Understand now??
And they shouldn’t ever be in a position to force a woman to bring a pregnancy she dosn’t want to term.
Jul 13, 2018 21:07:46 #
JimMe wrote:
Ranger7374... The 10th Amendment shows that the jurisdiction over a person's suicide falls to each Individual State, or their Local Gobernments:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Yes! And that is the solution. Have the states and local, decide on abortion.
Jul 13, 2018 23:22:23 #
ron vrooman wrote:
When a private female upon the land decides she does not wish to carry a pregnancy to term, who, what, where, how does anyone in Our Constitutional Republic form of government have jurisdiction over her decision??
Can we keep this to lawful and without conjecture, emotion, this is a private being making a decision none can gainsay her.
when I private member of we the people decides to eliminate from their body that is it.
Can we keep this to lawful and without conjecture, emotion, this is a private being making a decision none can gainsay her.
when I private member of we the people decides to eliminate from their body that is it.
The Supreme Court will not be able to overturn legal precedence in Roe v. Wade. But if Congress and science establish and pass the Life Begins at Conception Act, then the developing fetus would be viewed as a legitimate live person and placed under the protection of the 14th Amendment guaranteeing equal protection under the law of life, liberty and property rights.
That puts three people into the Right to Life debate: man, woman and baby.
Jul 13, 2018 23:30:22 #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
The Supreme Court will not be able to overturn legal precedence in Roe v. Wade. But if Congress and science establish and pass the Life Begins at Conception Act, then the developing fetus would be viewed as a legitimate live person and placed under the protection of the 14th Amendment guaranteeing equal protection under the law of life, liberty and property rights.
That puts three people into the Right to Life debate: man, woman and baby.
That puts three people into the Right to Life debate: man, woman and baby.
Correction, man, woman, and an unborn baby.
Jul 14, 2018 00:37:26 #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
The Supreme Court will not be able to overturn legal precedence in Roe v. Wade. But if Congress and science establish and pass the Life Begins at Conception Act, then the developing fetus would be viewed as a legitimate live person and placed under the protection of the 14th Amendment guaranteeing equal protection under the law of life, liberty and property rights.
That puts three people into the Right to Life debate: man, woman and baby.
That puts three people into the Right to Life debate: man, woman and baby.
The SC has ruled on when a fetus is able to sustain itself at 20/24 weeks..
A couple of states have put the allowable time to have an abortion now at 6 weeks, which one is challenging back to the SC for ruling on time as that will be the issue if Roe goes to the states for determination....
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