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Apr 22, 2018 03:53:51   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
To explain further the quote I made earlier, Christ is a teacher and his profession in the days of Rome and the Sanhedrin and the high priest the Pharisees we're persecuted.
Jerusalem at the time of Christ was a freeform that was rebelling against the Roman rule so on the politics side of it there were two groups the Pharisees and the San hedrin. Jerusalem was in open Rebellion against heard Dynasty that was appointed by the governor or the emperor of Rome. Pontius Pilate was pleased as overseer to make sure King has her did his job herod's father Herod the Great sought to destroy Christ when Christ was born we all know that story however, what seems to be forgotten for his in history however it was written down is the fact that Christ was a rabbi a teacher and those who teach the young are being persecuted by liberal factions. Another Not So well-known the fact is that Jerusalem during the time of 70 AD was totally destroyed by the Romans and the temple was totally destroyed now that fact came about around the same time Revelations was written by John. With the exception of Christ being born again in this Century we're going through the same thing with the principles of this country today the only difference is we are not being choked by Rome we are being choked by ourselves.

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Apr 22, 2018 04:16:41   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!! I am not a practicing christian all though I have been through the entire catholic thing when I was younger, I found that during the Obama catastrophy Islamic teachings were being pushed to the Nth Degree and it pissed me off to no end. It still does for that matter. However, now a days you really dont hear to much about the Islamic propaganda being spewed now do we.. HMMMM? Wonder why that is? Perhaps people have been growing up to the realization that Islam does ot nor did it ever belong in the western culture. All of the DIVERISITY BS has been allowed to die a slow and painfull death as it should!!!!!!! Diversity my Butt!!!!! Hello YOU PROGRESSIVE SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST BORG MINDED people out there and here on OPP, have you been watching the downfall of some of the greatest countries due to multiculteralism and the diveristy BS? I sincerely hope so because as a DIRECT RESULT of the stupidity of your own ideology, how many innocent men women and children have been hurt has been astrinomical!!!! Here is a little video by Britain got talent to enjoy just for your multicuturalism and diversity. Enjoy PROGS!
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/NBT7XCpzwAg




cold iron wrote:
After being interviewed by the school administration, the prospective teacher said: "Let me see if I've got this right".

You want me to go into that room with all those kids, correct their disruptive behavior, observe them for signs of abuse, monitor their dress habits, censor their T-shirt messages and instill in them a love for learning.

You want me to check their backpacks for weapons, wage war on drugs and sexually transmitted diseases, and raise their sense of self-esteem and personal pride.

You want me to teach them patriotism and good citizenship, sportsmanship and fair play, and how to register to vote, balance a check book, and apply for a job.

You want me to check their heads for lice, recognize signs of antisocial behavior, and ensure that they all pass their final exams.

You also want me to provide them with an equal education regardless of their handicap and communicate regularly with their parents in English, Arabic or any other language, by letter, telephone, newsletter, and report card

You want me to do all this with a piece of chalk, a blackboard, a bulletin board, a few books, a big smile, and a starting salary that qualifies me for "New Start."

You want me to do all this, and then you tell me......

I CAN'T wear a necklace with a little cross, mention God, or say "Merry Christmas" because someone might take offense? "

Well, you know what you can do with your job........

This should be posted in every school in America and all countries.

Think about it!

If Muslims can pray anywhere, why are Christians banned from praying in public and from erecting religious displays on their holy days?

What happened to our National Day of Prayer?

Muslims are allowed to block off major streets, in all American States and pray in the middle of the street! And it's a monthly ritual!

Tell me, again, whose country is this

Ours or the Muslims?

I was asked to send this on if I agree, or delete if I don't.

It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having 'God' in our education system or the Lord's Prayer said in our government, schools or public meetings.

I believe it's time we stand up for what we believe!

Support America.....
After being interviewed by the school administrati... (show quote)



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Apr 22, 2018 06:46:37   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
straightUp wrote:
No one is stopping you from exercise thereof...

No, only denying me my livelihood and costing me my life savings if I do so.

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Apr 22, 2018 07:05:30   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
straightUp wrote:
You're an angry little fella ain't'cha? ...really eager to play victim too.... Imagine, being told not to wear a cross or to mention God, or to say Merry Christmas... Oh, you already are - LOL!

The 1st amendment gives you the right to do any of those things so stop acting like Billy hit you. You just don't like that the schools are not permitting people to shove YOUR specific brand of religion down everyone's throat. That's what this whole thing has always been about. Evangelists have always tried to use public schools to push for a Christian-dominant culture, sometimes to the point of religious denial (of other religions), which accgording to the U.S. Constitution, the government is not allowed to support. So when schools comply, evangelists get all pissed off and they start preaching about how the schools are destroying America.

America isn't being destroyed - it's just growing and changing. Maybe the clean, happy days of soda fountains and white privilege are behind us... like plastic army men and Santa Clause.
You're an angry little fella ain't'cha? ...really ... (show quote)



I beg to disagree to your post but there American way of life and the Democratic way is slowly being destroyed.

Demon-crat wanting to do away with parts of our beloved constitution so they can continue with their communist plans.

Out of control flow of illegal immigrants so they can vote to keep the Demon-cats in power too finish their communist agemds..

Providing welfare and free medical services to millions of illegal immigrants to be paid for on the backs of the hard working tax payers money.

Run away spending workout control.

Operate under balanced budget like the Republicans imposed when slick Willie Clinton was in office. It worked then until the Demon-cats voted it out.

Install finger prints as voters identification that would stop all voter fraud.

That would be a good start.

Semper Fi
God bless America and President Trump

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Apr 22, 2018 07:39:40   #
Kevyn
 
maximus wrote:
Seems like I feel the need to retort this poster about once per week. Our country is based on the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y. If 86% of the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y want to hear a prayer at a ball game( plus another 10% who don't believe but have no problem with those who do) then why can't the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y do so? Or have a morning prayer in school? Because prayer is like smoking...not in any public building...only in designated areas.....better yet, just keep it to yourself.
The M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y(meaning the largest (biggest) number of people) are restricted from prayer by the M-I-N-O-R-I-T-Y ( the smallest ( itsi bitsi) number pf people). Also, YOU are foisting YOUR belief that those like you should be able to discuss and belittle the beliefs of the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y because you believe that you are too smart to believe in God. (Both are a belief system.) The only difference is that one is doomed to fail, and it ain't gonna be mine !!!
Seems like I feel the need to retort this poster a... (show quote)
our nation is not based on MAJORITY, it is based on the constitution, we are a constitutional republic. That constitution protects the minority from forced indoctrination in the mystic beliefs and creation myth of the majority in the public square, city hall and public schools.

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Apr 22, 2018 07:43:51   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Kevyn wrote:
our nation is not based on MAJORITY, it is based on the constitution, we are a constitutional republic. That constitution protects the minority from forced indoctrination in the mystic beliefs and creation myth of the majority in the public square, city hall and public schools.

And yet the MINORITY is FORCING their beliefs on the majority in the public square, city hall, and public schools.

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Apr 22, 2018 08:40:37   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
maximus wrote:
Seems like I feel the need to retort this poster about once per week. Our country is based on the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y. If 86% of the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y want to hear a prayer at a ball game( plus another 10% who don't believe but have no problem with those who do) then why can't the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y do so? Or have a morning prayer in school? Because prayer is like smoking...not in any public building...only in designated areas.....better yet, just keep it to yourself.
The M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y(meaning the largest (biggest) number of people) are restricted from prayer by the M-I-N-O-R-I-T-Y ( the smallest ( itsi bitsi) number pf people). Also, YOU are foisting YOUR belief that those like you should be able to discuss and belittle the beliefs of the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y because you believe that you are too smart to believe in God. (Both are a belief system.) The only difference is that one is doomed to fail, and it ain't gonna be mine !!!
Seems like I feel the need to retort this poster a... (show quote)




Well said!!

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Apr 22, 2018 08:59:46   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
Kevyn wrote:
our nation is not based on MAJORITY, it is based on the constitution, we are a constitutional republic. That constitution protects the minority from forced indoctrination in the mystic beliefs and creation myth of the majority in the public square, city hall and public schools.


"Forced indoctrination"!!!??? You mean if someone looks at a rendition of the ten commandments on a wall....that's forced indoctrination?? I thought if someone held a gun to your head and said "you must look at this and believe it" that's forced indoctrination. You wacko liberals have manipulated the English language to fit your agenda. You use words like "forced indoctrination", "diversity", "fairness", etc to mean only what YOU say it means. That is not only disingenuous, but dictatorial as well. Passing laws to appease a MINORITY group of people, that's "forced indoctrination". Catering to Muslims while removing all references to Christian beliefs, that's "forced indoctrination". Passing laws that undermine good morals is "forced indoctrination". Yes, to answer your next question, I decide what good morals are to me.

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Apr 22, 2018 10:12:12   #
Morgan
 
maximus wrote:
Seems like I feel the need to retort this poster about once per week. Our country is based on the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y. If 86% of the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y want to hear a prayer at a ball game( plus another 10% who don't believe but have no problem with those who do) then why can't the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y do so? Or have a morning prayer in school? Because prayer is like smoking...not in any public building...only in designated areas.....better yet, just keep it to yourself.
The M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y(meaning the largest (biggest) number of people) are restricted from prayer by the M-I-N-O-R-I-T-Y ( the smallest ( itsi bitsi) number pf people). Also, YOU are foisting YOUR belief that those like you should be able to discuss and belittle the beliefs of the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y because you believe that you are too smart to believe in God. (Both are a belief system.) The only difference is that one is doomed to fail, and it ain't gonna be mine !!!
Seems like I feel the need to retort this poster a... (show quote)



Somehow Trump voters feel the electoral college vote is good, as they see it as not forcing the opinion of the masses onto the minority, yet here you feel the opposite, the masses should be able to force prayer onto others.

That's correct... keep it to yourself, there are many different religions, and silence for praying is perfectly acceptable and I feel certain the message is heard.

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Apr 22, 2018 10:18:02   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Somehow Trump voters feel the electoral college vote is good, as they see it as not forcing the opinion of the masses onto the minority, yet here you feel the opposite, the masses should be able to force prayer onto others.

That's correct... keep it to yourself, there are many different religions, and silence for praying is perfectly acceptable and I feel certain the message is heard.


The electoral college is Constitutional. Government controlled education isn't.

The Constitution is the law of the land. Unless some folks find it inconvenient to their dreams of total control.

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Apr 22, 2018 10:31:52   #
bahmer
 
Morgan wrote:
Somehow Trump voters feel the electoral college vote is good, as they see it as not forcing the opinion of the masses onto the minority, yet here you feel the opposite, the masses should be able to force prayer onto others.

That's correct... keep it to yourself, there are many different religions, and silence for praying is perfectly acceptable and I feel certain the message is heard.


If you were to institute prayer in schools it would have to be with the parents approval of course. One way of doing it would be to take a survey of the different religions in a particular class and then go in a round robin sort of way and have each religion have its own prayer day where they would offer the prayers. The other students that participated would then sit silently and listen and pay them reverence when they prayed. The other solution would be to allow those that are not affiliated with said religion go out into the hall for some quiet time while the others of that faith prayed. I am sure there could be all kinds of creativity for this exercise.

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Apr 22, 2018 10:57:39   #
Morgan
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Well the debate falls apart for one simple fact: Christ was a teacher! So you won the argument. Congratulations!

On another valid note, I was researching Plato, Socrates, and Aristotle and found that thier conclusions were made whole when you include the teachings of Christ. Now if you were to eliminate the hostility of the nature of Mohammed in his teachings, the only conclusion is Christ's teaching which brings all religions together. Christ's teachings fulfill the Jewish teachings of the patriarchs, the heros, the judges and prophets of Israel as well as the Greek Philosophers and combines the roots of the orientation into one Christian belief.

Expanding upon that idea, and examining it more closely we come to find that it was inevitable that America would be formed based upon these principles.

By persecuting the persecuted, we get caught up in a Socrates paradox, "I know nothing, that is what I know"

My source for this thesis is the writings of the Greek Philosophers, the City of God by St Augustine as well as the Federalist papers- fromthe writings of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson,. Hamilton and James Madison and Ben Franklin. Other sources include George Washington and James Monroe.

After all this reading the one conclusion that must be made and is self-evident is that the human mind maybe able to separate religion from State in thought, but in practice, religion and state cannot be separated. For in action we are inheritantly religious. And when one opposes religion one is opposing it because they are religious.

Whew that was deep....enjoy.
Well the debate falls apart for one simple fact: C... (show quote)


Slight correction, Thomas Jefferson, was not present just as he wasn't also for the signing of the Declaration Of Independence, nor was Ben Franklin and John Adams. James Madison and Alexander Hamilton, with assistance from John Jay, wrote a series of essays to persuade people to ratify the Constitution. The 85 essays, known collectively as “The Federalist Papers”, which detailed how the new government would work, and was published under the pseudonym Publius (Latin for “public”) in newspapers across the states starting in the fall of 1787.

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Apr 22, 2018 11:09:26   #
zillaorange
 
bahmer wrote:
I hear you, I try not to even read the posts from Kevyn, Bad Bob, Rumitoid and a host of others and when I see their names I just skip past their post and go to the next but the thing that frustrates me more than anything else is that they post and post and post continuously ad nauseum until I just about want to quit the thread.


With out folks from ALL SIDES here, there'd be no point to OPP !

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Apr 22, 2018 11:15:56   #
Morgan
 
archie bunker wrote:
The electoral college is Constitutional. Government controlled education isn't.

The Constitution is the law of the land. Unless some folks find it inconvenient to their dreams of total control.



Well arch I never said it wasn't, my point was the double standard from the poster.

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Apr 22, 2018 11:17:59   #
zillaorange
 
Marsinah wrote:
Muslims believe in God, too.


moslems are not a religion !!!! THEY"RE A POLITICAL MOVEMENT WITH THE SAME GOAL AS THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST !!! World domination with them in control !

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