Morgan

I appreciate your fairness here with the round robin, I think it would be a positive experience for the kids to view others practice, but my question is why can't we have a moment of silence for them all to either pray, meditate or daydream, it's their moment of silence which has already proved to be very beneficial, even just the daydreaming. I think it'd be great at work for a few minutes, it helps people destress which is the number one k**ler.

Morgan

I like your point here

cold iron Loc: White House

Where do you get all this crap propaganda? Is there a person that calls all liberals every day and give you nuts a pep talk?

bahmer

The moment of silence has a possibility but I would like it to have a more meaningful end to it. The round robin would expose the children to others religions and there could be questions and answers with that as well. If we understand each other it could create a more harmonious atmosphere for the children and hopefully they would understand where each is coming from.

maryla

Strange how they're using PC to silence the nation...but patriots like you are getting a louder voice.....

Kevyn

What propaganda? The schools in Finland and Japan outperform ours in every measure. And in both nations they do not push prayer or religion. This disproves the post I responded to that declared it was impossible to instill personal responsibility or discipline absent a Christian education. This is simply and obviously not true and I provided examples to back my point.

Kevyn

During the moment of silence some kid is going to fart loudly or burp resulting in a five minute giggle session. Courses in world religions would help kids understand the cultures and beliefs of others but there is little chance fundamentalists will allow there kids to partake lest they decide another religion makes more sense to them.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

So Finland isn't following in the foot steps of Sweden?

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As Sweden collapses into chaos, its government launches an “image of Sweden” campaign
APR 19, 2018 - BY ROBERT SPENCER

“The rising levels of violence have not gone unnoticed by Sweden’s Scandinavian neighbors. Norwegians commonly use the phrase ‘Swedish conditions’ to describe crime and social unrest. The view from Denmark was made clear when former President of NATO and Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in an interview on Swedish TV: ‘I often use Sweden as a deterring example.’ In response, the Swedish government has launched an international campaign for ‘the image of Sweden’ playing down the rise in crime, both in its media strategy and through tax-funded PR campaigns.”

Apparently, the Swedish government is fine with the devastation that Muslim migrants have brought to the country. They just don’t want anyone else to notice.

“Sweden’s violent reality is undoing a peaceful self-image,” by Paulina Neuding, Politico, April 16, 2018 (thanks to Scott):

STOCKHOLM — Sweden may be known for its popular music, IKEA, and a generous welfare state. It is also increasingly associated with a rising number of Islamic State recruits, bombings, and hand grenade attacks.

In a period of two weeks earlier this year, five explosions took place in the country. It’s not unusual these days — Swedes have grown accustomed to headlines of violent crime, witness intimidation, and gangland executions. In a country long renowned for its safety, v**ers cite “law and order” as the most important issue ahead of the general e******n in September.

The topic of crime is sensitive, however, and debate about the issue in the consensus-oriented Scandinavian society is restricted by taboos.

To understand crime in Sweden, it’s important to note that Sweden has benefited from the West’s broad decline in deadly violence, particularly when it comes to spontaneous violence and alcohol-related k*****gs. The overall drop in homicides has been, however, far smaller in Sweden than in neighboring countries.

Gang-related gun murders, now mainly a phenomenon among men with immigrant backgrounds in the country’s parallel societies, increased from 4 per year in the early 1990s to around 40 last year. Because of this, Sweden has gone from being a low-crime country to having homicide rates significantly above the Western European average. Social unrest, with car torchings, attacks on first responders and even r**ts, is a recurring phenomenon.

Shootings in the country have become so common that they don’t make top headlines anymore unless they are spectacular or lead to fatalities. News of attacks is quickly replaced with headlines about sports events and celebrities, as readers have become desensitized to the violence. A generation ago, bombings against the police and r**ts were extremely rare events. Today, reading about such incidents is considered part of daily life.

The rising levels of violence have not gone unnoticed by Sweden’s Scandinavian neighbors. Norwegians commonly use the phrase “Swedish conditions” to describe crime and social unrest. The view from Denmark was made clear when former President of NATO and Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in an interview on Swedish TV: “I often use Sweden as a deterring example.”

In response, the Swedish government has launched an international campaign for “the image of Sweden” playing down the rise in crime, both in its media strategy and through tax-funded PR campaigns. During a visit to the White House in March, Sweden’s Prime Minister Stefan Löfven admitted that his country has problems with crime and specifically shootings, but denied the existence of no-go zones. Sweden’s education minister, Gustav Fridolin, traveled to Hungary last week with the same message.

But the reality is different for those on the ground: The head of the paramedics’ union Ambulansförbundet, Gordon Grattidge, and his predecessor Henrik Johansson recently told me in an interview that some neighborhoods are definitely no-go for ambulance drivers — at least without police protection.

Swedes are not prone to grandiose manifestations of national p***e, but the notion of a “Swedish Model” — that the country has much to teach the world — is a vital part of the national self-image.

Since crime is intimately linked to the country’s failure to integrate its immigrants, the rise in violence is a sensitive subject. When the Swedish government and opposition refer to the country as a “humanitarian superpower” because it opened its doors to more immigrants per capita during the migrant crisis than any other EU country, they mean it. This has resulted in some impressive contortions.

In March, Labor Market Minister Ylva Johansson appeared on the BBC, where she claimed that the number of reported rapes and sexual harassment cases “is going down and going down and going down.” In fact, the opposite is true, which Johansson later admitted in an apology.

Similarly, in an op-ed for the Washington Post, former Prime Minister Carl Bildt described the country’s immigration policy as a success story. He did not elaborate on violent crime. After repeated attacks against Jewish institutions in December — including the firebombing of a synagogue in Gothenburg — Bildt took to the same paper to claim that anti-Semitism is not a major problem in Sweden.

“Historically, in Sweden, it was the Catholics that were seen as the dangerous threat that had to be fought and restricted,” Bildt claimed, seemingly unaware that the laws he cited also applied to Jews. Intermarriage was illegal and hostility was based on ideas of Jews as racially inferior. Bildt’s attempt to relativize current anti-Semitism with odd and inaccurate historical arguments reflects how nervously Swedish elites react to negative headlines about their country.

Another spectacular example is an official government website on “Facts about migration, integration, and crime in Sweden,” which alleges to debunk myths about the country. One “false claim” listed by the government is that “Not long ago, Sweden saw its first Islamic terrorist attack.”…

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JoyV

I am rarely in agreement with you. But this time I am.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

you are very accurate in that statement. When Mohammed was chased out of Mecca and ran to Media, where he turned into a political activist what had been a failed "religious" cult became a political movement which demanded k*****g or turning into s***es any people would not submit and accept Mohammed as the leader of the movement.

JoyV

Yes it is constitutional. And it does not force the minority opinion on the masses. It ensures that each state get a fair shake. Each state holds popular e******ns. These are organized at the county level. The popular v**e from each county is added up and the winning party's e*****rs become the e*****rs for that state. The e*****rs cast the v**e for their state based on the will of the majority in their state. No state's v**es can be assigned or combines with another state's. So a Texan's v**e will not affect which party's e*****rs are chosen in NY. CA v**ers can't decide for Utah. The v**ers in each state get an equal voice in the e******n process. Be glad that Hamilton's plan of a national popular v**e didn't get picked. He wanted to bypass the states and have each individual v**e no matter from which state tabulated together. Now before those on the left say that is preferable, note that the franchise was to be exclusive to the wealthy elite. No employees would have been able to v**e. Even if the franchise had been open to all, it would have meant only the most populous areas would have any real impact on e******ns.

Parrothead Loc: In front of my laptop

I doubt he has a job or a home. Just a liberal jerk-off using a public library computer.

JoyV

Not workable. Some people would violently oppose one or another religion being showcased. It is one of the reason's I am against Islamic tolerance programs in the schools. They invariably include religious teaching. Instead there could be tolerance instruction which does not single out one particular group. I think having no religion showcased is best. Every student can prayer silently whenever they choose so long as it doesn't disrupt other students. If someone wants their child to get religious teaching or more religious exposure; they can enroll them in a religious school of their choice.

bahmer

That is what we did our children attended church run schools from first grade through high school and it was our choice. It was expensive but that is what we did. I would like to see school choice opened up to include christian schools as well. That would have really helped us with three kids.

maryla

That sounds about right!