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Apr 12, 2018 10:37:10   #
Morgan
 
trucksterbud wrote:
It is nothing more than the death of freedom as we know it. Keep in mind here there is an attorney / client priveledge that CANNOT be broken, by law..

It is nothing more than Mueller grasping at straws as his so called investigation slowly collapses and sinks...




Behavior is very telling, Trump behaves as a guilty person, any other president would have been outraged over the infiltration of another country corrupting our voting process and its integrity.

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Apr 12, 2018 10:40:43   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
trucksterbud wrote:
It is nothing more than the death of freedom as we know it. Keep in mind here there is an attorney / client priveledge that CANNOT be broken, by law..

It is nothing more than Mueller grasping at straws as his so called investigation slowly collapses and sinks...

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2012/09/how-is-attorney-client-privilege-destroyed.html

How is Attorney-Client Privilege Destroyed?

By Andrew Chow, Esq. on September 27, 2012 8:58 AM

The attorney-client privilege is important to any lawsuit. But in some cases, the attorney-client privilege can be destroyed, either by design or by accident.

What is the attorney-client privilege? In general, it means confidential communication between a client and her lawyer cannot be used in court. The privilege generally covers legal advice and law-related discussions between a lawyer and a client, whether written or oral.

So what doesn't fit under the privilege, or can destroy the privilege altogether? Here are five scenarios to consider:

1) Non-legal advice -- The attorney-client privilege generally does not apply when a communication discusses unrelated issues that have nothing to do with the law. Courts generally focus on the "primary purpose" of a communication to determine if it is privileged.

2) Informed waiver -- One way to get the attorney-client privilege destroyed is by agreeing to waive the privilege. A waiver is often required to be in writing, and can't be undone. Government entities sometimes agree to waive the privilege to show they have nothing to hide, as happened recently with a school board in Ohio.

3) Waiver by communication to a third party -- One of the most common ways to waive the privilege is to have a third party present at the time of the communication. Waiver also occurs when a client or lawyer later discloses privileged information to a third party. There are some exceptions: Language interpreters generally don't count, and a third party who is also the lawyer's client in the same matter may also keep the privilege intact.

4) Failure to object -- This usually happens during the pretrial discovery phase, when both sides request documents and information. If privileged information is produced, and a party doesn't object in a timely manner, the privilege may be lost forever.

5) Crime-fraud exception -- The attorney-client privilege generally doesn't apply when a lawyer and a client discuss ways to commit or perpetuate crime or fraud.

The attorney-client privilege isn't easily destroyed, but it's not uncommon for it to be challenged as a case proceeds. If you're in the midst of litigation, it may be a good idea to ask your lawyer precisely what's covered so you don't destroy the privilege by accident.

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Apr 12, 2018 11:50:20   #
son of witless
 
Morgan wrote:
They are doing what they should be doing, no one is above the law including a possibly corrupt president, you would think you would want to know with absolute certainty that our president, representing the free world, is beyond reproach. If this was a democratic president you folks would be banging the war drums against him/her for sure.


" If this was a democratic president you folks would be banging the war drums against him/her for sure. "

When you're right, you are right. Remember Bill Clinton ? The difference is that Bill Clinton did his stuff while in the White House, lied under oath while still President, and the Democrats, Liberals, and Feminists defended him to the death. I seriously doubt that the Rinos will go to bat for Trump the way the Democrats did for Bill Clinton. Trump's alleged stuff occurred when he was not in office. He has not lied under oath. You do see the difference right ?

As I say, you have to admire the way Democrats absolutely will close ranks around their guy, while Republicans are not nearly so loyal.

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Apr 12, 2018 11:56:34   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Just so you don't look any more partisan stupid they knew about Russian hacking in 2016 under Obama. Perhaps you should ask Obama why he did nothing and wasn't outraged. Using your own measuring stick, Obama must be guilty.
Morgan wrote:
Behavior is very telling, Trump behaves as a guilty person, any other president would have been outraged over the infiltration of another country corrupting our voting process and its integrity.

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Apr 12, 2018 12:03:37   #
theotts
 
kankune wrote:
Wow Morgan....if that's not calling the kettle black I don't know what is!


Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neither Clinton nor Obama broke the law, or behaved unethically, nor grabbed pussies, nor endorsed racist, murdering scum (Charlottesville), nor violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution, nor committed misprision, subornation, obstruction of justice, or free-floating prickiness. They didn't lie about EVERYTHING, defraud people with an ersatz "university," pay off porn stars, employ known felons, give aid and comfort to our enemies, sexually molest dozens of women and girls, screw literally thousands of workers out of their wages, take credit for someone else's accomplishment, employ a self-avowed fascist and a legion of his clones (clowns), or vacation on the taxpayer's dime fully one-third of their time in office. They didn't leave US citizens to starve, denigrate KIA soldiers, or lie, lie, lie...

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Apr 12, 2018 12:34:07   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
theotts wrote:
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neither Clinton nor Obama broke the law, or behaved unethically, nor grabbed pussies, nor endorsed racist, murdering scum (Charlottesville), nor violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution, nor committed misprision, subornation, obstruction of justice, or free-floating prickiness. They didn't lie about EVERYTHING, defraud people with an ersatz "university," pay off porn stars, employ known felons, give aid and comfort to our enemies, sexually molest dozens of women and girls, screw literally thousands of workers out of their wages, take credit for someone else's accomplishment, employ a self-avowed fascist and a legion of his clones (clowns), or vacation on the taxpayer's dime fully one-third of their time in office. They didn't leave US citizens to starve, denigrate KIA soldiers, or lie, lie, lie...
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neithe... (show quote)


That's a good start.

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Apr 12, 2018 12:46:03   #
theotts
 
byronglimish wrote:
Close, it would you not being able to articulate as a intellectual like, say,..Loki for instance..but keep trying Mr Clumps..hope is a good idea..the only pearls..would be the ZZ Top..pearl necklace that you wear often.. right?


Loko an intellectual? Lordy sweet jesus you're a tool.
I posted facts. You and yours have been jumping up and down and screeching like chimps, not meeting my post with anything with even a passing resemblance to intellectual.

And I embarrassed Loko so thoroughly it blocked me.

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Apr 12, 2018 12:48:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
theotts wrote:
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neither Clinton nor Obama broke the law, or behaved unethically, nor grabbed pussies, nor endorsed racist, murdering scum (Charlottesville), nor violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution, nor committed misprision, subornation, obstruction of justice, or free-floating prickiness. They didn't lie about EVERYTHING, defraud people with an ersatz "university," pay off porn stars, employ known felons, give aid and comfort to our enemies, sexually molest dozens of women and girls, screw literally thousands of workers out of their wages, take credit for someone else's accomplishment, employ a self-avowed fascist and a legion of his clones (clowns), or vacation on the taxpayer's dime fully one-third of their time in office. They didn't leave US citizens to starve, denigrate KIA soldiers, or lie, lie, lie...
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neithe... (show quote)




Nice post...

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Apr 12, 2018 13:04:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Attorneys are officers of the court and cannot assist in illegal activities under the guise of attorney/client privilege. Also, whether Democrat or Republican any investigation that might involve that individual is always deemed a witch hunt. We know too little at this point to make a determination as to where all of this is headed. We just need to set our biases aside and let it play out. If there is no illegal activity on Trump's part then there will be time to criticize the investigation. If there is illegal activity then he should be held accountable.
Attorneys are officers of the court and cannot ass... (show quote)


"Attorney-client privilege doesn't apply if there's "a serious allegation of illegal activity."

So who made the allegation?
One of Mueller's crew?
The Hillary foundation?
Comey?

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Apr 12, 2018 13:06:04   #
1ProudAmerican
 
theotts wrote:
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neither Clinton nor Obama broke the law, or behaved unethically, nor grabbed pussies, nor endorsed racist, murdering scum (Charlottesville), nor violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution, nor committed misprision, subornation, obstruction of justice, or free-floating prickiness. They didn't lie about EVERYTHING, defraud people with an ersatz "university," pay off porn stars, employ known felons, give aid and comfort to our enemies, sexually molest dozens of women and girls, screw literally thousands of workers out of their wages, take credit for someone else's accomplishment, employ a self-avowed fascist and a legion of his clones (clowns), or vacation on the taxpayer's dime fully one-third of their time in office. They didn't leave US citizens to starve, denigrate KIA soldiers, or lie, lie, lie...
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neithe... (show quote)


If Clinton (Bill) didn't grab pu$$ies, how did that stain get on the blue dress??

BOBO didn't grab pu$$ies because he preferred balls !!!

...and I don't think the beast could have paid anyone enough to allow her to grab THEM .. pu$$ies OR balls!!!!

The rest of your post....


your really should lay off the wacky tobacky and the rancid Kool-Aid....

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Apr 12, 2018 13:06:57   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
theotts wrote:
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neither Clinton nor Obama broke the law, or behaved unethically, nor grabbed pussies, nor endorsed racist, murdering scum (Charlottesville), nor violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution, nor committed misprision, subornation, obstruction of justice, or free-floating prickiness. They didn't lie about EVERYTHING, defraud people with an ersatz "university," pay off porn stars, employ known felons, give aid and comfort to our enemies, sexually molest dozens of women and girls, screw literally thousands of workers out of their wages, take credit for someone else's accomplishment, employ a self-avowed fascist and a legion of his clones (clowns), or vacation on the taxpayer's dime fully one-third of their time in office. They didn't leave US citizens to starve, denigrate KIA soldiers, or lie, lie, lie...
Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neithe... (show quote)


"Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neither Clinton nor Obama broke the law, or behaved unethically..." - theo

And people are to believe you have any credibility, theo?

BTW;
Who has ordered Donna Brazile's new book?
An eye opener for those that have been keeping their eyes closed.
Donna Brazile writes that the DNC became dependent on the Clinton campaign for survival, and Clinton expected to control its operations. ... New Book Says.

https://newsone.com/3756799/donna-brazile-book-tells-hillary-clinton-control-dnc-donald-trump-2016-victory/

Donna Brazile Airs Out Hillary Clinton and DNC’s Dirty Laundry
The former interim DNC chair provides an insider view on how the Clinton campaign allegedly strongarmed the party.
OUCH!!!

A few HRC quotes:
"I don't recall" - Hillary Rodham Clinton
"I don't recall" - Hillary Rodham Clinton
"I don't recall" - Hillary Rodham Clinton
Here’s All 40 Times Hillary Clinton Told the FBI She Couldn’t Remember Something
How many more like this will there be? 40 and counting so far.
http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/heres-all-40-times-hillary-clinton-told-the-fbi-she-couldnt-remember-something/

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Apr 12, 2018 13:40:48   #
theotts
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Attorney-client privilege doesn't apply if there's "a serious allegation of illegal activity."

So who made the allegation?
One of Mueller's crew?
The Hillary foundation?
Comey?


So long as the affiant has a critical mass of evidence for probable cause, the source is immaterial as you would know if you read an actual newspaper.

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Apr 12, 2018 13:50:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
theotts wrote:
So long as the affiant has a critical mass of evidence for probable cause, the source is immaterial as you would know if you read an actual newspaper.


"So long as the affiant has a critical mass of evidence for probable cause, the source is immaterial as you would know if you read an actual newspaper." - theotts

Do you consider yourself affluent, theo?
What Newspapers do you rely on?

"Meaty reply dipshlt. The difference is that neither Clinton nor Obama broke the law, or behaved unethically..." - theo

And people are to believe you have any credibility, theo?

BTW;
Who has ordered Donna Brazile's new book?
An eye opener for those that have been keeping their eyes closed.
Donna Brazile writes that the DNC became dependent on the Clinton campaign for survival, and Clinton expected to control its operations. ... New Book Says.

https://newsone.com/3756799/donna-brazile-book-tells-hillary-clinton-control-dnc-donald-trump-2016-victory/

Donna Brazile Airs Out Hillary Clinton and DNC’s Dirty Laundry
The former interim DNC chair provides an insider view on how the Clinton campaign allegedly strongarmed the party.
OUCH!!!

A few HRC quotes:
"I don't recall" - Hillary Rodham Clinton
"I don't recall" - Hillary Rodham Clinton
"I don't recall" - Hillary Rodham Clinton
Here’s All 40 Times Hillary Clinton Told the FBI She Couldn’t Remember Something
How many more like this will there be? 40 and counting so far.
http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/heres-all-40-times-hillary-clinton-told-the-fbi-she-couldnt-remember-something/

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Apr 12, 2018 14:35:16   #
JRumeryjr
 
woodguru wrote:
I love the smell of a left wing con job in the morning, it smells like cleaning out the swamp.


Do you mean right wing cover up and filling the swamp?

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Apr 12, 2018 14:45:27   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JRumeryjr wrote:
Do you mean right wing cover up and filling the swamp?


Get a clue Jr!

Clinton's Life Full Documentary: MURDER, Scandals, Corruption And Lies Exposed!
https://youtu.be/nmqPJvIRIoo

The Clintons are a proven known. Lying, self serving scammers to the max.
From the Ozarks to Long Island, to DC and back to New York.
We drained the DC Swamp of two more swamp rats.

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