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Apr 12, 2018 00:22:09   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
theotts wrote:
Piggie wanna wallow?
Is this callow maudering really all you've got?
You have nothing whatever either lucid or germane?
Since I do happen to belong to a minority, (though not African-American) I'm also going to point out that you're racist filth. If you say that to my face you'll regret it, junior.


Careful little fella, you'll spook yourself... good night Mr Clumps..

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Apr 12, 2018 00:30:20   #
theotts
 
plainlogic wrote:
It should scare everyone in this nation, it's twisting our constitutional rights, the 4th amendment. They can't find ANYTHING on collusion, so, what do they do? they try and find anything going back years. They will file false information even if the exclusionary rule is played, and everything is thrown out. It's still poison fruit and it's out there. IT'S dirty and liberal DEMORATS play ground.

Try not to be an idiot. Mueller turned two Trumpista and indicted two. Everyone from Sessions to Nunez to Trump to Kushner has lied, demonstrably and repeatedly. In Sessions case it was perjury, and in Trump's, subornation of perjury, both felonies.
And that palaver about an exclusionary rule demonstrates your ignorance beyond doubt. The Warrants ensued from a demonstration of material evidence of a felony being withheld. Discussing the commission of a crime is not privileged communication, as anyone with a brain larger than a gnat knows.
Cohen will be disbarred.

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Apr 12, 2018 02:38:01   #
woodguru
 
bahmer wrote:
It is starting to smell like a left wing con job to me and this whole special prosecutor smelled from the get go. It is starting to smell like a left wing con job with Rob Rosenstein in charge of painting the dully elected president with the broad brush of the democrat party collusion brush.


I love the smell of a left wing con job in the morning, it smells like cleaning out the swamp.

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Apr 12, 2018 03:01:24   #
woodguru
 
JFlorio wrote:
That's because they managed to seed those agencies with political operatives. The biggest mistake Trump has made is not getting rid of all Obama appointees.


To replace them with loyalists?

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Apr 12, 2018 03:02:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
JFlorio wrote:
Sorry Blade. Speculation on my part. Same sentence structure, insults , and deflections. What’s it really matter? He’s definitely a troll.
I'm taking your advise, J, liberal progs are vain and deceitful people, especially the hard-core Trump haters. It is truly a waste of time to concern ourselves with their obscene blubbering. Those fools are steeped in hate, they wallow in it, and suck on it, and regurgitate it. False accusers, reprobates, hypocrites, cowards, and the sorriest mob of losers in the universe--the lot of them.

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Apr 12, 2018 07:13:00   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
slatten49 wrote:
Fox News explains exactly why the Michael Cohen raid should terrify Donald Trump

Attorney-client privilege doesn't apply if there's "a serious allegation of illegal activity."

Addy Baird, Apr 9, 2018, 6:32 pm

On Monday, FBI agents raided the office and residences of Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s longtime personal attorney. The search warrants reportedly included conversations between Cohen and Trump, who has been Cohen’s only client for years.

The search reportedly included, possibly among other things, documents related a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, which Cohen made just days before the 2016 election. Daniels, an adult film actress, says she had an affair with Trump in 2006.

But it was the approval of the search warrants themselves that should terrify Trump. The best explanation, remarkably, came from Andrew Napolitano, a Fox News legal analyst. Napolitano explained that, under normal circumstances, communications between Trump and his attorney are privileged. But this privilege does not apply if there is “a serious allegation of illegal activity, by the lawyer with the client,” he said.

“There must be some evidence presented to a federal judge here in New York City sufficient to persuade that judge to sign a search warrant to permit the FBI in broad daylight to raid an attorney’s office, particularly when that attorney has one client and it happens to be the president of the United States,” Napolitano told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto.

“That evidence would have to be such as to persuade a neutral observer, the federal judge, that it is more likely than not, that among these seized documents is evidence of crimes by Mr. Cohen or Mr. Cohen and the president,” he continued.

The crime in question, Napolitano speculated, could be related to the $130,000 payment to Daniels.

Napolitano did echo some of Fox News’ favorite arguments about the ongoing investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 presidential election, saying there “seems to be no limit” to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe. But then Napolitano reiterated that a judge would only issue the warrant if there was sufficient “evidence of crimes.”

“You’re talking about the most confidential and protected relationship there is — lawyer and client — and the federal government has just invaded that with the express authority and approval of a federal judge, who may only permit that invasion when she or he, the federal judge, has been satisfied that it’s more likely than not that in those materials are evidence of crimes,” he said.

It would be a crime, Napolitano went on to say, if the Trump campaign accepted a gift of $130,000, and if the funds came from the campaign. In that instance, “all bets are off,” as Cavuto put it.

What makes Napolitano’s comments Monday even more interesting is that when Napolitano talks, Trump listens. Trump directly echoed Napolitano’s arguments on Fox in a recent tweet about government surveillance shortly after Napolitano appeared on the network, and the White House has cited Napolitano’s claim, without evidence, that British intelligence operatives had surveilled Trump Tower as a favor to Barack Obama during the 2016 campaign.

According to a report from February, the president and Napolitano have spoken a number of times in recent months, as well.
Fox News explains exactly why the Michael Cohen ra... (show quote)


This is the most hilarious "reality" show on TV.

What's sad is that this is all the left has to ride that "blue wave" I keep hearing about.

Too funny....







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Apr 12, 2018 07:33:26   #
theotts
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I'm taking your advise, J, liberal progs are vain and deceitful people, especially the hard-core Trump haters. It is truly a waste of time to concern ourselves with their obscene blubbering. Those fools are steeped in hate, they wallow in it, and suck on it, and regurgitate it. False accusers, reprobates, hypocrites, cowards, and the sorriest mob of losers in the universe--the lot of them.


Thin and insubstantial as mountain air. Still no evidence, still the same anile bitterness. Bigotry, you unspeakable sub-idiot is hatred. Moral outrage at the like of you is conscience.
Unspeakable detritus.

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Apr 12, 2018 09:27:46   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
theotts wrote:
Thin and insubstantial as mountain air. Still no evidence, still the same anile bitterness. Bigotry, you unspeakable sub-idiot is hatred. Moral outrage at the like of you is conscience.
Unspeakable detritus.



Bla bla bla..

You're not able to lay it down like a real intellectual.. are you Mr Clumps?

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Apr 12, 2018 09:59:16   #
Morgan
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Rosenstein did a dirty maneuver of this political stunt. Recommended to Mueller the raid of the president’s lawyer Cohen to find any dent on president Trump. The raid of lawyer Cohen was illegal, unethical, unprofessional, unconstitutional, and beyond the scope of their investigation. The client privileges is also violated.

It could not be done. They are doing all dirty tricks to get the innocent president. It is gross abuse of power, illegal, and gross violation of Cohen’s constitutional rights.

This is a desperate attempt to find any fault the president has, which had nothing to do with the Russian collusion. Sixteen months of dirty and endless search nothing found. Now they have gone out beyond the scope of the bound and encroachment of the rights of Cohen, to find any fault of the president.

Fact is Mueller, Rosenstein, and the rests of the Mueller team are all criminals violating and abusing the rights of the president and lawyer Cohen.

Rosenstein must be terminated, prosecuted. Session must get him out. Session must also be removed by Trump. He is a traitor working for his personal interests. He was dishonest not telling the president at the beginning that he will recuse from the job. We don’t need him if he could not function and do his job. He must leave ASAP.

Mueller, Rosenstein, and rest of their gangster team must be locked up!
Note: Senator Graham is a TRAITOR ALSO.
===================== br Rosenstein did a dirty ma... (show quote)


They are doing what they should be doing, no one is above the law including a possibly corrupt president, you would think you would want to know with absolute certainty that our president, representing the free world, is beyond reproach. If this was a democratic president you folks would be banging the war drums against him/her for sure.

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Apr 12, 2018 10:01:57   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Morgan wrote:
They are doing what they should be doing, no one is above the law including a possibly corrupt president, you would think you would want to know with absolute certainty that our president, representing the free world, is beyond reproach. If this was a democratic president you folks would be banging the war drums against him/her for sure.


Wow Morgan....if that's not calling the kettle black I don't know what is!

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Apr 12, 2018 10:04:50   #
Morgan
 
bdamage wrote:
This is the most hilarious "reality" show on TV.

What's sad is that this is all the left has to ride that "blue wave" I keep hearing about.

Too funny....




What's wrong with that picture of storming the attorney's home and office, not a thing, who do you think set up the contract, his maid?

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Apr 12, 2018 10:05:52   #
theotts
 
byronglimish wrote:
Bla bla bla..

You're not able to lay it down like a real intellectual.. are you Mr Clumps?


That would be pearls before swine, wouldn't it Piglet?

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Apr 12, 2018 10:07:08   #
Morgan
 
kankune wrote:
Wow Morgan....if that's not calling the kettle black I don't know what is!


Not at all

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Apr 12, 2018 10:22:49   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
theotts wrote:
That would be pearls before swine, wouldn't it Piglet?


Close, it would you not being able to articulate as a intellectual like, say,..Loki for instance..but keep trying Mr Clumps..hope is a good idea..the only pearls..would be the ZZ Top..pearl necklace that you wear often.. right?

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Apr 12, 2018 10:23:22   #
trucksterbud
 
slatten49 wrote:
Fox News explains exactly why the Michael Cohen raid should terrify Donald Trump

Attorney-client privilege doesn't apply if there's "a serious allegation of illegal activity."

Addy Baird, Apr 9, 2018, 6:32 pm

On Monday, FBI agents raided the office and residences of Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s longtime personal attorney. The search warrants reportedly included conversations between Cohen and Trump, who has been Cohen’s only client for years.

The search reportedly included, possibly among other things, documents related a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, which Cohen made just days before the 2016 election. Daniels, an adult film actress, says she had an affair with Trump in 2006.

But it was the approval of the search warrants themselves that should terrify Trump. The best explanation, remarkably, came from Andrew Napolitano, a Fox News legal analyst. Napolitano explained that, under normal circumstances, communications between Trump and his attorney are privileged. But this privilege does not apply if there is “a serious allegation of illegal activity, by the lawyer with the client,” he said.

“There must be some evidence presented to a federal judge here in New York City sufficient to persuade that judge to sign a search warrant to permit the FBI in broad daylight to raid an attorney’s office, particularly when that attorney has one client and it happens to be the president of the United States,” Napolitano told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto.

“That evidence would have to be such as to persuade a neutral observer, the federal judge, that it is more likely than not, that among these seized documents is evidence of crimes by Mr. Cohen or Mr. Cohen and the president,” he continued.

The crime in question, Napolitano speculated, could be related to the $130,000 payment to Daniels.

Napolitano did echo some of Fox News’ favorite arguments about the ongoing investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 presidential election, saying there “seems to be no limit” to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe. But then Napolitano reiterated that a judge would only issue the warrant if there was sufficient “evidence of crimes.”

“You’re talking about the most confidential and protected relationship there is — lawyer and client — and the federal government has just invaded that with the express authority and approval of a federal judge, who may only permit that invasion when she or he, the federal judge, has been satisfied that it’s more likely than not that in those materials are evidence of crimes,” he said.

It would be a crime, Napolitano went on to say, if the Trump campaign accepted a gift of $130,000, and if the funds came from the campaign. In that instance, “all bets are off,” as Cavuto put it.

What makes Napolitano’s comments Monday even more interesting is that when Napolitano talks, Trump listens. Trump directly echoed Napolitano’s arguments on Fox in a recent tweet about government surveillance shortly after Napolitano appeared on the network, and the White House has cited Napolitano’s claim, without evidence, that British intelligence operatives had surveilled Trump Tower as a favor to Barack Obama during the 2016 campaign.

According to a report from February, the president and Napolitano have spoken a number of times in recent months, as well.
Fox News explains exactly why the Michael Cohen ra... (show quote)


It is nothing more than the death of freedom as we know it. Keep in mind here there is an attorney / client priveledge that CANNOT be broken, by law..

It is nothing more than Mueller grasping at straws as his so called investigation slowly collapses and sinks...

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