Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

If any business, owned by a person of whatever race, religion, sexual orientation, creed or color, does not wish to do business with me, for whatever reason, including my skin color, religion, looks, beliefs, sexual preferences, etc., I have no problem with it. I really do not wish to do business with any person who does not want, and value, my patronage.

Of course, this isn't about fair interaction between two people in a business transaction. It is about the homosexual agenda of pushing their perverted sex in the faces of those who find them to be odious.

Comment Loc: California

I think she will sign it. Just goes to show that AZ is one of a handful of states that will stand up to this president. The law pretty much nullifies Obumma's law because thes state can have standing before the court to fight Holder in the SC. It will take yrs to get through the courts. Obumma and Holder will be long gone. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Comment Loc: California

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cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

Mainly children that have no belief or religious grounding maybe. Bit I'm sure it will unfortunately be struck down one for the bad guys again. And the believers a flat zero!

Comment Loc: California

Where in the Constitution does it say: " private businesses can't discriminate." IT DOES NOTTTTTT!!!!!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

To fully appreciate the contents of the bill, you must read it first. It is on line, and to argue the contents without reading it is as foolhardy as being told that Obamacare is great, but the bill must be signed before you know what is in it. You can drive down the roads and see signs regarding illegals will not be served.... does that mean that they discriminate? It may interest you to know Arizona does not have a State law prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation in the areas accommodation, education, provision of goods and services and disposal of land, clubs and club members, sport and local government. Contained in the current law is protection for service providers. There already are laws that give some protection from government regulation to those who have sincerely held religious beliefs. This measure would extend those protections to those facing civil suits brought by individuals who say they’re the victims of discrimination. This law is directed and intended as a defense when someone files a law suite claiming discrimination due to sexual orientation. Historically, when someone filed a law suite claiming discrimination due to sexual orientation, the proprietor had no defense and it was an automatic win for the accuser. This law was written to correct or close that loop and restore a business' right to deny service to those participating in open homosexual activities that the proprietor finds offensive to their religious convictions.

Now, do I think that Brewer will sign it. No, it would send a message that AZ is hostile to homosexuals. This would hurt business, and with the up coming super bowl game being played in AZ....... Money will drive her to veto it.

madshark

Let me help you, retard. If two men come in together and order their wedding cake with little figures of two men on it, one could sarely assume they are homosexual. However, this is not a bill targeting homosexuals. It is a codification of a basic human right.

Our business or work product is a part of us. Inseperable as are our eyes, hands or feet. When a government orders us to surrender our work product, our humanity, to another, against our will, that government has dictates that we longer own ourselves. But rather, we are owned by that government. We are slaves to the government. This bill simply asserts that the citizens of the State of Arizona are free and sovereign to government.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

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Well said!

Comment Loc: California

[quote=no propaganda please]I know that the left, particularly Obama, has no respect for either Christianity or Judaism or those people who hold firm beliefs in right and wrong. However, this is the same government that allows Muslims to dress according to sharia law, and allows areas that are largely Muslim to have their own local laws that follow their religion.Apparently the same is not permitted for the majority religions in America.

I am having problems trying to determine why a particular group of people, homosexuals, cannot be discriminated against because of their behavior. There is no documented biological cause for sexual orientation, and no "gay" gene. Nor has any development problem in uturo ever been found to determine orientation. Orientation is a learned behavior. Many people have been homosexual as teenagers and become heterosexual as adults. There are even groups such as Families and Friends of EX GAYS who can help people who do not wish to behave in a homosexual manner become straight. In the mean time two percent of the population is making demands that we forget our religion so we can service them. And it is only the activists who are pushing, most homosexuals know they can find people to provide services who are happy to work for and with them.[/quot

Barry Soetoro is the name Barack Obama used on his student ID card at Columba University. On the bottom of the card it says: "FOREIGN STUDENT." (I know that double emphases is grammatically incorrect. So what!) If U Google Barry Soetoro the first article is a California newspaper article about him. Next is a photo of his Columbia Univ. ID card. The libber commies say: "IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY." Yeah right! The Repubs made this all up. he MSM has not investigated any of this. Why haven't the MSM investigated the Repubs and put the falsifiers in jail? Could it be that they fear that this evidence might be true? As I watch

rumitoid

Thank you, that was very helpful. However, you say the bill is not targeting homosexuals but the link provided seemed to indicate the bill directly targeted "gays and lesbians." Here is the opening sentence: "Arizona's Legislature has passed a controversial bill that would allow business owners, as long as they assert their religious beliefs, to deny service to gay and lesbian customers."

Oh, if your work product is as inseparable as your eyes, hands and feet, how could you sell it? Also, you are not "surrendering" your work product; you are selling it.

As I previously stated, I can understand, and support, a bill that promotes a shop owners right to serve who he or she chooses but my understanding of this bill seemed to limit that choice to homosexuals and only from religious beliefs.

Comment Loc: California

The gov takes our property in taxes. Taxes were designed to fund for the protection of the US, little else. That limitation is written in the Constitution. How did the central gov get so big? We have been brainwashed to believe that we must transfer wealth and deviate from a Christion based society to a communist one. Destruction of the Christian religion, destruction of the family through welfare in which the gov usurps the fathers' responsibility of providing for the kids he has sired. He can walk away with impunity and sire many more and they do. Control of production is being dune through regulations, NLRB, EPA, FCC, FTSC, DOE, DOA, IRS, OSA, FBI, ETC. The list is not all inclusive. All the above are planks in the Communist manifesto. The Communist are whittling away our natural born rights. Those rights given by God for they have to destroy God before they can take U over. Retired666, are U reading?

madshark

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Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

Frankly, if some bigot business does not appreciate my patronage I'd rather go elsewhere anyway.

rumitoid

In a search on this AZ law, curious to find no conservative comments, just these and a few more like them:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ff-gay-rights-arizona-20140221,0,1812097.story#axzz2u4qW9zkA

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/22/us/religious-right-in-arizona-cheers-bill-allowing-businesses-to-refuse-to-serve-gays.html?_r=0

rumitoid

madshark wrote:
Let me help you, retard. If two men come in together and order their wedding cake with little figures of two men on it, one could sarely assume they are homosexual. However, this is not a bill targeting homosexuals. It is a codification of a basic human right.

Our business or work product is a part of us. Inseperable as are our eyes, hands or feet. When a government orders us to surrender our work product, our humanity, to another, against our will, that government has dictates that we longer own ourselves. But rather, we are owned by that government. We are slaves to the government. This bill simply asserts that the citizens of the State of Arizona are free and sovereign to government.


Thank you, that was very helpful. However, you say the bill is not targeting homosexuals but the link provided seemed to indicate the bill directly targeted "gays and lesbians." Here is the opening sentence: "Arizona's Legislature has passed a controversial bill that would allow business owners, as long as they assert their religious beliefs, to deny service to gay and lesbian customers."

Oh, if your work product is as inseparable as your eyes, hands and feet, how could you sell it? Also, you are not "surrendering" your work product; you are selling it.

As I previously stated, I can understand, and support, a bill that promotes a shop owners right to serve who he or she chooses but my understanding of this bill seemed to limit that choice to homosexuals and only from religious beliefs.

rumitoid