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Apr 5, 2018 22:25:08   #
son of witless
 
bggamers wrote:
When I moved back to georgia and went to get another ga license they wanted current drivers license any marriage certificates and any divorce papers from any I had had I told her I had one marrage and one divorce which happened over 30 years ago. She told me I needed to go home and get them I said why would any one hang onto those that long and she told me to get copys. Hell I can barley remember peoples names and she wanted me to remember where i got married and divorced plus a birth certificate.
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I recently filled out a form and I had to list all of my prior employers and their current addresses. Well some from over 3 decades ago no longer exist. These electronic forms do not let you go on until you complete everything. I ended up deleting the information totally because there was no other way to finish the form.

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Apr 5, 2018 22:36:05   #
Nickolai
 
Abel wrote:
Not much to say, but when I went to vote on Tuesday in Missouri, I could hardly believe what happened! I've been voting in Missouri for about 35 years, and nothing like this has ever happened before! I damn near had a heart attack!

At the starting point in the room, THE LADY OFFICIAL ASKED ME FOR A PHOTO ID! OMG! I had to dig out my drivers license, which was a HORRIBLE experience! An extremely difficult task that took about 10 or 12 seconds out of my busy day!

I congratulated her and thanked her profusely for asking! I might have given her a hug, but I didn't think that would be appropriate there in public and all. I hope this "strange" procedure continues! Maybe there is still hope for these here United States OF America!

I'm still having trouble getting over it, being a senior citizen and all. It was certainly a pleasant surprise! WOW! I finished voting, and as I left the room I thanked her again! I felt good the rest of the day knowing I had pissed off a Progressive!

About time, IMHO!
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There is nothing wrong in photo ID except for the fact that it was not an issue until Brack Obama won in 2008 presidential election then suddenly it was a big problem and we needed voter ID. It was clearly a way of suppressing the votes of minorities, poor people and college students Democratic voters. In Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R) said that the voter ID law passed by the legislature would help deliver the state for Mitt Romney in November.
“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,” Turzai said at this weekend’s Republican State Committee meeting , according to PoliticsPA.com.

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Apr 5, 2018 22:57:44   #
teabag09
 
That's total crap. You are not going to get away with just stating something that's an out right LIE. It's been an issue here in VA for years so you just shove that crap right back up your ass and try to pawn it off on someone else.

I'd think you dumbkoffs would know by now to not try you're leftist BS here. Take it over to CNN or MSNBC where the idiots will go along with an idiot. Mike
Nickolai wrote:
There is nothing wrong in photo ID except for the fact that it was not an issue until Brack Obama won in 2008 presidential election then suddenly it was a big problem and we needed voter ID. It was clearly a way of suppressing the votes of minorities, poor people and college students Democratic voters. In Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R) said that the voter ID law passed by the legislature would help deliver the state for Mitt Romney in November.
“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,” Turzai said at this weekend’s Republican State Committee meeting , according to PoliticsPA.com.
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Apr 5, 2018 23:30:41   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is nothing wrong in photo ID except for the fact that it was not an issue until Brack Obama won in 2008 presidential election then suddenly it was a big problem and we needed voter ID. It was clearly a way of suppressing the votes of minorities, poor people and college students Democratic voters. In Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R) said that the voter ID law passed by the legislature would help deliver the state for Mitt Romney in November.
“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,” Turzai said at this weekend’s Republican State Committee meeting , according to PoliticsPA.com.
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Nikki...thats all BS and you know it. Having to get.an ID doesn't suppress anything Or anyone! If.you want.to vote have a damn ID. If.you have to go.sit at the courthouse.for.hours to get one so be it. Ain't gonna kill anyone.to do it!!

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Apr 5, 2018 23:50:28   #
son of witless
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is nothing wrong in photo ID except for the fact that it was not an issue until Brack Obama won in 2008 presidential election then suddenly it was a big problem and we needed voter ID. It was clearly a way of suppressing the votes of minorities, poor people and college students Democratic voters. In Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R) said that the voter ID law passed by the legislature would help deliver the state for Mitt Romney in November.
“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,” Turzai said at this weekend’s Republican State Committee meeting , according to PoliticsPA.com.
There is nothing wrong in photo ID except for the ... (show quote)


Why is it a way of suppressing " the votes of minorities, poor people and college students Democratic voters. " Apparently those people never drive, leave the country, or use a credit card. For the rest of us we are having to prove who we are constantly. I just had to get another birth certificate because my old one does not meet the security needs for a passport. And liberal voters whine about ID. I wish I had their problems.

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Apr 5, 2018 23:57:21   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
son of witless wrote:
I recently filled out a form and I had to list all of my prior employers and their current addresses. Well some from over 3 decades ago no longer exist. These electronic forms do not let you go on until you complete everything. I ended up deleting the information totally because there was no other way to finish the form.


I ran into the same thing and each time I simply made up an address and even phone numbers, particularly when they have gone out of business. There is no way accurate information will be of any more value than fake and such requests are only clubs to beat you with for non-compliance. I have never been called on any of the fake information I listed which confirms my opinion that they didn't need the information to begin with.

I even did this with my first security application, at age of seventeen; they wanted a list of every organization I belonged to. I listed the Polish Falcons of Edwardsville Pa. It was a polish private club which sold associate memberships for a buck. Those memberships allowed us to drink in the club bar which was not legal but safe because it was private.

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Apr 6, 2018 07:27:35   #
Bug58
 
kankune wrote:
I'd like to cut them off now Mac. Tired of going to the grocery store and seeing the women with 4 or 5 kids using food stamps. I know dang well her significant other (Not married of coures) works at Hormel for 19 per hour. And....to top it off they both have a membership at my gym. I know because I'm the manager and I sold it to them. CUT THEM OFF NOW!!
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This is one of the issues, they don't get married but live together, they are supposed to report all income coming into the household, makes one wonder if they do. But you could report anonymously

If all of the kids are his, the state should go after him for child support, yes, if they are living together and unmarried, just as if they weren't living together. Then maybe they would consider marriage as a better option.

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Apr 6, 2018 08:12:29   #
Bug58
 
bahmer wrote:
My daughter and her husband were at the grocery store last year and a couple ahead of them had a birthday cake, steaks, hamburger, hot dogs, buns, chips, and other party supplies and they paid with a wick card and then they loaded all of the food and supplies into a Cadillac Escalade.
I'm with you on cutting them off.


They couldn't have paid w/ WIC for ANY of those things, they could have with an EBT card, but NOT Wic, Wic is Women, Infant, and Children, and there are ONLY certain things they can purchase with WIC. Milk, eggs, peanut butter, cereal, juices, formula, baby foods, fruit, and vegetables. (you can download a list of foods that WIC can be used for https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/final-rule-revisions-wic-food-packages )

Now, EBT, Party supplies that are NON food or drink items can not be paid for using WIC OR an EBT card.

But also, IF a parent gets Child Support, IF it's paid to the state they have the OPTION of having the money directly deposited into their bank account OR put on a card much like an EBT card, which can be used as 'cash payment' as an option on the card.

Something else people apparently do not consider is that the person MAY have had an awesome job and purchased that Cadillac, and then lost their job.
And instead of selling the car they kept it, and the assistance they are getting is temporary, and that assistance they put money into it when they had that awesome job--and now they are merely getting a portion of THEIR OWN MONEY back.

My son-in-law works two jobs, one making around $11 and a part time job making $15 an hour, he had medical emergency and was laid up in the hospital for 4 months and the doctors didn't release him until the end of last month, he just went back to work this month, so he hasn't had an income since Oct of last year. He's been working since he was 16 years old, and people try and make them 'feel guilty' for getting food stamps, and other assistance, that he's been paying into FOR YEARS. They were blessed that the ONE of the companies he worked for assisted them in paying their rent and other bills--through their employee emergency assistance program. They don't own a Cadillac, but one of their daughters birthdays fell during this time, should they not attempt to make her birthday as special as they can, using their EBT card??? If not, why do you think they shouldn't??

We as her parents, couldn't help as much as we would have liked to, because my husband lost his job in Oct. the company he worked for closed down his department, 8 people lost their jobs. We had enough money to pay all of our bills and make it 4 months, but because he got a severance package, he couldn't even get unemployment benefits until the end of what they consider the end of the severance payments. So if you get eight weeks worth of severance pay--well, you can't get unemployment benefits until that eight weeks is up, if have a certain amount of money in the bank even if it is set aside so you can pay your bills, you can't get assistance. He was applying for jobs, but people weren't hiring, he finally found something in March, so he was out of work for nearly 6 months, should we have sold our car?? We don't have a Caddy either, but we do have a nice car, that was purchased when he was working and making a great income. (oh, and Unemployment benefits can also be placed on one of those cards). But I'm curious, how do they know what 'type' of card the person used?

The thing is, when you say such things, you don't know the person's circumstances. You don't know if they JUST started receiving those benefits after having been out of work for months, and they received a severance package and they limited their grocery shopping to the basics to make sure their bills were paid, but couldn't get those benefits because they had the money from their severance pay, or if they had a medical emergency, or another job loss or something, so they decided they would splurge a little when they got them, after they have paid into the system for years. Why shouldn't they get some of their money back and use it for what they want??

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Apr 6, 2018 08:37:47   #
Morgan
 
kayo55 wrote:
Hummm, it makes your day to irritate someone else? Most of the rest of us would rather make life more pleasant for ourselves and others around us. It is sad to think our country is so divided politically that one party deems the other the enemy and looks for ways to further separate than try to find common ground. How can we expect congress to work together if we are unwilling to listen to alternate opinions and to see the things we have in common.


well said

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Apr 6, 2018 08:44:03   #
Morgan
 
glibona wrote:
The only problem is that progressive soc/com/Marxism ideology has nothing in common with our American republic constitutionally protected freedom and liberty under our system of individual opportunity of free enterprise in life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...nor does progressivism have anything in common with Americanism.
It seems you may have taken the senior citizen from Missouri renarks out if context.


No, your lousy remarks confirmed what she just said, but I can sling the same sh*t as say that your post is the same diatribe from the fascist, autocracy, totalitarianism, nationalism of the right.

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Apr 6, 2018 08:55:54   #
Morgan
 
Bug58 wrote:
They couldn't have paid w/ WIC for ANY of those things, they could have with an EBT card, but NOT Wic, Wic is Women, Infant, and Children, and there are ONLY certain things they can purchase with WIC. Milk, eggs, peanut butter, cereal, juices, formula, baby foods, fruit, and vegetables. (you can download a list of foods that WIC can be used for https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/final-rule-revisions-wic-food-packages )

Now, EBT, Party supplies that are NON food or drink items can not be paid for using WIC OR an EBT card.

But also, IF a parent gets Child Support, IF it's paid to the state they have the OPTION of having the money directly deposited into their bank account OR put on a card much like an EBT card, which can be used as 'cash payment' as an option on the card.

Something else people apparently do not consider is that the person MAY have had an awesome job and purchased that Cadillac, and then lost their job.
And instead of selling the car they kept it, and the assistance they are getting is temporary, and that assistance they put money into it when they had that awesome job--and now they are merely getting a portion of THEIR OWN MONEY back.

My son-in-law works two jobs, one making around $11 and a part time job making $15 an hour, he had medical emergency and was laid up in the hospital for 4 months and the doctors didn't release him until the end of last month, he just went back to work this month, so he hasn't had an income since Oct of last year. He's been working since he was 16 years old, and people try and make them 'feel guilty' for getting food stamps, and other assistance, that he's been paying into FOR YEARS. They were blessed that the ONE of the companies he worked for assisted them in paying their rent and other bills--through their employee emergency assistance program. They don't own a Cadillac, but one of their daughters birthdays fell during this time, should they not attempt to make her birthday as special as they can, using their EBT card??? If not, why do you think they shouldn't??

We as her parents, couldn't help as much as we would have liked to, because my husband lost his job in Oct. the company he worked for closed down his department, 8 people lost their jobs. We had enough money to pay all of our bills and make it 4 months, but because he got a severance package, he couldn't even get unemployment benefits until the end of what they consider the end of the severance payments. So if you get eight weeks worth of severance pay--well, you can't get unemployment benefits until that eight weeks is up, if have a certain amount of money in the bank even if it is set aside so you can pay your bills, you can't get assistance. He was applying for jobs, but people weren't hiring, he finally found something in March, so he was out of work for nearly 6 months, should we have sold our car?? We don't have a Caddy either, but we do have a nice car, that was purchased when he was working and making a great income. (oh, and Unemployment benefits can also be placed on one of those cards). But I'm curious, how do they know what 'type' of card the person used?

The thing is, when you say such things, you don't know the person's circumstances. You don't know if they JUST started receiving those benefits after having been out of work for months, and they received a severance package and they limited their grocery shopping to the basics to make sure their bills were paid, but couldn't get those benefits because they had the money from their severance pay, or if they had a medical emergency, or another job loss or something, so they decided they would splurge a little when they got them, after they have paid into the system for years. Why shouldn't they get some of their money back and use it for what they want??
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Great reply to the uninformed, not t mention that this kind of misinformation post has more people who are equally uninformed believe it, and spread it also. They're too lazy to find out the reality of what is accepted under wick. People do work and have their own money, but also have wick is an assistance. Maybe they are so resentful they even hate those poor kids to get a birthday party, and not see that the mother was probably sacrificing and cutting back somewhere else to give her child a celebration, probably hot dogs for a bunch of dinners. Who knows their circumstance to judge?

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Apr 6, 2018 09:12:49   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Bug58 wrote:
This is one of the issues, they don't get married but live together, they are supposed to report all income coming into the household, makes one wonder if they do. But you could report anonymously

If all of the kids are his, the state should go after him for child support, yes, if they are living together and unmarried, just as if they weren't living together. Then maybe they would consider marriage as a better option.

Here's the thing Bug. All the woman has to say is he's not the father of the kids and she has no idea where the real father is. Bamm. No others questions ask. He's bring home over a thousand a week and she gets all the bennies....

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Apr 6, 2018 09:15:11   #
son of witless
 
pafret wrote:
I ran into the same thing and each time I simply made up an address and even phone numbers, particularly when they have gone out of business. There is no way accurate information will be of any more value than fake and such requests are only clubs to beat you with for non-compliance. I have never been called on any of the fake information I listed which confirms my opinion that they didn't need the information to begin with.

I even did this with my first security application, at age of seventeen; they wanted a list of every organization I belonged to. I listed the Polish Falcons of Edwardsville Pa. It was a polish private club which sold associate memberships for a buck. Those memberships allowed us to drink in the club bar which was not legal but safe because it was private.
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That is funny. The only problem with knowingly providing false information even when it is irrelevant is that if someone in power ever had a grudge against you is, it could be used to terminate you, assuming they could prove anything.

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Apr 6, 2018 09:15:28   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
kayo55 wrote:
Hummm, it makes your day to irritate someone else? Most of the rest of us would rather make life more pleasant for ourselves and others around us. How can we expect congress to work together if we are unwilling to listen to alternate opinions and to see the things we have in common. How can we expect congress to work together if we are unwilling to listen to alternate opinions and to see the things we have in common.


"How can we expect congress to work together if we are unwilling to listen to alternate opinions and to see the things we have in common." - kayo55

Things in common; like being US citizens?

"How can we expect congress to work together if we are unwilling to listen to alternate opinions and to see the things we have in common." - kayo55
Yep! time for Democrats to put America first.

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Apr 6, 2018 09:27:25   #
Bug58
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is nothing wrong in photo ID except for the fact that it was not an issue until Brack Obama won in 2008 presidential election then suddenly it was a big problem and we needed voter ID. It was clearly a way of suppressing the votes of minorities, poor people and college students Democratic voters.


Why do you assume it will suppress ANYONE'S Vote??

Do you honestly think minorities, poor people or college students have problems getting an ID Card??

Do you think they are too stupid to get one?? Talk about racist.

College students can't get an id?? BS,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs


When I needed to get a new license last year, I had to jump through those same hoops of needing to get a copy of my birth certificate, and get a copy of marriage license, and other such things. My husband had to take time off from work and go out of state trying to locate some of his information from when he was adopted back in the 1960's.

When my daughters got their drivers license and voter ID Cards, they had to provide ALL their information too, marriage licence showing name changes, birth certificates, SS Cards, proof of address. While locating all of those things are time consuming for people, they are just as time consuming for ANYONE who needs to get them.

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