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Feb 18, 2014 11:37:38   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
The skin color statement did appear to be a contradiction. However, the fact remains that black males between 15 and 45 are responsible for a majority of violent crime, even though they are only about 6% or so of the population. When you factor out the rural black males in this age group who rarely commit violent crime, you are left with about 4 1/2 to 5 percent of the population committing these acts of violence and murder. Was Dunn justified in this shooting? I don't know.


Sir where are you getting your facts from? First of all your skin color statement was a contradiction that's all there is to it! Black males between 15 and 45 are only 6% or so of the population are responsible for a majority of violent crime! How about some evidence?http://yoknyamdabale.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/do-blacksafrican-americans-commit-more-crimes-than-whites/ BTW Blacks are about 12% of the population! Was Dunn justified in this shooting? :evil: Yes if you are a racist! LOL

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Feb 18, 2014 11:41:17   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Sir where are you getting your facts from? First of all your skin color statement was a contradiction that's all there is to it! Black males between 15 and 45 are only 6% or so of the population are responsible for a majority of violent crime! How about some evidence?http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2010/02/black_americans_in_the_2010_census.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://yoknyamdabale.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/do-blacksafrican-americans-commit-more-crimes-than-whites/http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2010/02/black_americans_in_the_2010_census.html


I gave you the evidence regarding out of wedlock black births, from US News and World Report, and NBC News. My stats regarding black crime come from the FBI Statistics on violent crime by race. You will have to wait for the link, I am busy, or you might try doing something for yourself, as in look it up. I have just told you where.

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Feb 18, 2014 11:41:52   #
petertimber
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Sir where are you getting your facts from? First of all your skin color statement was a contradiction that's all there is to it! Black males between 15 and 45 are only 6% or so of the population are responsible for a majority of violent crime! How about some evidence?http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2010/02/black_americans_in_the_2010_census.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://yoknyamdabale.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/do-blacksafrican-americans-commit-more-crimes-than-whites/http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2010/02/black_americans_in_the_2010_census.html


Ask Google.com for the statistical source of violent crimes in the USA and you will know what you do not want to know (obviously).

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Feb 18, 2014 11:44:20   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
It may get to the point that all Americans obtain concealed carry permits. It would make people think about their actions and wonder if the person they intend to assault (whether rob, insult and threaten....) is carrying and if they will indeed just fill you full of holes. I now have a permit to protect myself and our new child. I would not hesitate in using it if she where in danger.

I would hate to see our country turn into a self preservation society, but if the murders continue (whether by games of knock out, shooting people on the street, or breaking into a home) what are the other choices?

bobgssc wrote:
Your last sentence is the best explanation for the need for gun owner rights. Another example, I live in the country and we have almost zero crime, while it is fairly high in the nearby neighborhoods (not warzone or anything, but higher than we would prefer)... why? Because most people know that people on farms and ranches tend to be armed and therefore not the safest places to rob, attack, whatever. The simple thought that there could be a weapon in the hand of the tenant is enough to dissuade most problems. Sorry to hijack the thread but wanted to make a quick point.
Your last sentence is the best explanation for the... (show quote)

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Feb 18, 2014 11:53:46   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
I gave you the evidence regarding out of wedlock black births, from US News and World Report, and NBC News. My stats regarding black crime come from the FBI Statistics on violent crime by race. You will have to wait for the link, I am busy, or you might try doing something for yourself, as in look it up. I have just told you where.


Nonsense! You made some inane comments with no evidence what so ever! You can peddle your BS somewhere else for you are not dealing with a idiot! Sir there is no credible link that's why you cannot produce one other than your narrative! Good Day! :thumbdown:

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Feb 18, 2014 12:01:07   #
Cool Breeze
 
petertimber wrote:
Ask Google.com for the statistical source of violent crimes in the USA and you will know what you do not want to know (obviously).


How about some verification besides your narrative! I suggest you do the "research" but I know you wont! Guess what? I already know the truth enough to realize that you don't like it! :roll:

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Feb 18, 2014 12:05:36   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Nonsense! You made some inane comments with no evidence what so ever! You can peddle your BS somewhere else for you are not dealing with a idiot! Sir there is no credible link that's why you cannot produce one other than your narrative! Good Day! :thumbdown:


I posted two links, one to NBC News, the other to US News and World Report. These can be found on page 2 of this thread, immediately after you asked me where I got my facts. Let's try something here: How about all you folks out there in OPP land? Can you go to page 2 of this thread and find the links I posted? Cool Breeze maintains that I am not dealing with an idiot. Perhaps he overlooked my links.

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Feb 18, 2014 12:05:43   #
petertimber
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
How about some verification besides your narrative! I suggest you do the "research" but I know you wont! Guess what? I already know the truth enough to realize that you don't like it! :roll:





The theory the becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself and your family makes perfect sense.

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Feb 18, 2014 12:13:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
How about some verification besides your narrative! I suggest you do the "research" but I know you wont! Guess what? I already know the truth enough to realize that you don't like it! :roll:







http://niviusvir.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/rape-stats-2.jpg

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Feb 18, 2014 12:15:27   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Nonsense! You made some inane comments with no evidence what so ever! You can peddle your BS somewhere else for you are not dealing with a idiot! Sir there is no credible link that's why you cannot produce one other than your narrative! Good Day! :thumbdowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Staten:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_State

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Feb 18, 2014 12:33:35   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-womens_health/t/blacks-struggle-percent-unwed-mothers-rate/#.UwOIxfldXHw

I suppose NBC is racist now.

First of all the writer of this blog stated government statistics show but he conveniently ommitted what agency! To be fair what percentage of White babies are born out of wedlock? For the sake of argument lets say that 72% of Black kids are born out of wedlock out of 13% of the population! How many births would that be compared to White babies born out of wedlock?http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us/for-women-under-30-most-births-occur-outside-marriage.html?pagewanted=all Why the emphasis on Black babies! Even this statistic is nuanced! By the sheer numbers there are more White babies born out of wedlock! Your attitude may be the result of white media bias eh?


http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/05/06/census-bureau-links-poverty-with-out-of-wedlock-births

How about US News and World Report?
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-women... (show quote)


:oops: :oops: :oops:

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Feb 18, 2014 12:46:04   #
Cool Breeze
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
:oops: :oops: :oops:


I say again this statistic is nuanced! How many White women are having abortions? The white gene pool is declining and something must be done! That is the real "concern" about Black babies born out of wedlock! Isn't it? :wink: http://prospect.org/article/demographics-abortion-its-not-what-you-think

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Feb 18, 2014 12:54:32   #
Cool Breeze
 
petertimber wrote:
I NEVER mentioned self-defense?


Scroll up? Didn't you indicate becoming a victim isn't morally more important than defending yourself or your loved ones! :-o

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Feb 18, 2014 12:58:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
I say again this statistic is nuanced! How many White women are having abortions? The white gene pool is declining and something must be done! That is the real "concern" about Black babies born out of wedlock! Isn't it? :wink: http://prospect.org/article/demographics-abortion-its-not-what-you-think


Here are some facts regarding the murder of unborn children:

•In 2010, 85% of all abortions were performed on unmarried women (CDC).
•Women living with a partner to whom they are not married account for 25% of abortions but only about 10% of women in the population (NAF).
•In 2010, 55.6% of abortions were performed on women who had not aborted in the past; 36.7% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and 7.7% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
•Among women who obtained abortions in 2010, 40.3% had no prior live births; 45.9% had one or two prior live births, and 13.8% had three or more prior live births (CDC).

•Women between the ages of 20-24 obtained 32.9% of all abortions in 2010; women between 25-29 obtained 24.5% (CDC).
•Women in their 20's have the highest abortion rates. In 2010, women aged 20-24 had 27.4 abortions for every one thousand 20-24 year-old women. Women aged 25-29 had 20.4 abortions for every one thousand 25-29 year-old women (CDC).

•51% of U.S. women obtaining abortions are younger than 25; women aged 20-24 obtain 33% of all U.S. abortions, and teenagers obtain 18% (AGI).
•In 2009, adolescents under 15 years obtained .05% of all abortions, but had the highest abortion ratio, 785 abortions for every 1,000 live births (CDC).
•Black women are more than 4.8 times more likely than non-Hispanic white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.7 times as likely (AGI).
•The abortion rate of non-metropolitan women is about half that of women who live in metropolitan counties (NAF).
•The abortion rate of women with Medicaid coverage is three times as high as that of other women (NAF).
•37% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 28% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI).
•At current rates, nearly one-third of American women will have an abortion (AGI).

Total number of abortions in the U.S. 1973-2011: 54.5 million+

234 abortions per 1,000 live births (according to the Centers for Disease Control)
Abortions per year: 1.2 million
Abortions per day: 3,288
Abortions per hour: 137
9 abortions every 4 minutes
1 abortion every 26 seconds

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Feb 18, 2014 12:58:14   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
I posted two links, one to NBC News, the other to US News and World Report. These can be found on page 2 of this thread, immediately after you asked me where I got my facts. Let's try something here: How about all you folks out there in OPP land? Can you go to page 2 of this thread and find the links I posted? Cool Breeze maintains that I am not dealing with an idiot. Perhaps he overlooked my links.


Yes I read your links and responded to them! They are absent of nuance. Maybe you overlooked my links! Nice try!

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