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Feb 18, 2014 09:44:16   #
puterlove2
 
that still don't stop you from being a skin head

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Feb 18, 2014 09:46:34   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
puterlove2 wrote:
that still don't stop you from being a skin head


How would you know, oh Favored of Allah?

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Feb 18, 2014 09:54:06   #
Cool Breeze
 
petertimber wrote:
what happened to those two teenagers who shot a baby in the face while his mother was pushing the infant in a carriage in Atlanta. The teenager who k**led a 20 year old white guy by coming out of a car and hitting him until he fell to the sidewalk and died only got 10 years (means 5 years). in Atlanta area. If you go farther out it gets worse where teenagers k**l teenagers. So the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself and your family makes perfect sense?
what happened to those two teenagers who shot a ba... (show quote)


To compare this murderous depravity to the so called Michael Dunn's (Loud Music) trial is a quaint psychological twist devoid of nuance and probably racially inflammatory! http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/police-arrest-2-teens-ga-baby-k*****g Elkins and the juvenile still was taken into custody although stories was conflicting and his aunt provided him with an alibi it didn't matter! (I wonder why?) What self defense are you referring to? There was none in the Michael Dunn's case period!

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Feb 18, 2014 10:05:19   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
What does yours say? "Please don't hurt me?"


The Florida Justice System is depraved and indifferent! Some i***ts are going to try to defend Michael Dunn's actions! You think that he's going to do 60yrs! I suggest you think again! http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/24/jesse-jackson/homicides-b****s-have-tripled-stand-your-ground-wa/

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Feb 18, 2014 10:16:01   #
Cool Breeze
 
ginnyt wrote:
So Cool Breeze, the man was wrong on several accounts. Here is a question for you. What if really loud music makes you crazy? You do realize that there is data that shows some people are hypersensitive to noise. It can cause everything from sleeplessness to damage to the inner ear. And can cause insanity, either temporary or rubber room crazy for life crazy. Do you think that these nice young teenagers had a right to play their music so loud that it made contents inside of other cars vibrate?? They were asked to turn down the "music" (and I use that term loosely) and they responded by making it louder. I believe that everyone is entitled to listen to their brand of music, but should NEVER be heard outside the car or home. So, in your world, regardless of the actions, noise, beatings, robbery, verbal assaults, and such that a group of thugs do should just be tolerated if you are white? I think that there is not enough press about the consequences of really pissing other people off. Perhaps thugs will have some consideration and turn down the volume if they know that there are CONSEQUENCES.
So Cool Breeze, the man was wrong on several accou... (show quote)


What! This is insanity! So in your world all Black People who listen to loud Rap Music are Thugs and that justifies Murder! I guess when a White Person tells you to do something In Florida and you "disobey" there will be consequences! I suggest you receive some therapy right away!

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Feb 18, 2014 10:22:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
The Florida Justice System is depraved and indifferent! Some i***ts are going to try to defend Michael Dunn's actions! You think that he's going to do 60yrs! I suggest you think again! http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/24/jesse-jackson/homicides-b****s-have-tripled-stand-your-ground-wa/


Did you even read the link you posted? It merely said that the Jesse Jackson statement that homicides against b****s have tripled since "Stand Your Ground" is a lie. If you are using it as evidence against "Stand Your Ground," use it some more. The number of black homicides has increased from 524 to 532. Last time I looked, that is not 300%. It's more like one percent.

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Feb 18, 2014 10:34:12   #
Cool Breeze
 
elledee wrote:
the majority of violent crimes and murders are committed by young black males. long before this happened Michael Dunn made up his mind he would never be a victim of this extremely violent segment of our population. as soon as those kids realized their buddy was dead they all knew the only way they were going to keep from going to prison for a long time is to make that gun jordan davis had disappear. make no mistake skin color has nothing to do with this unfortunate incident ..... this is all about the choices people make. A cowardly act by three young men will cost Michael Dunn his life.... is this what happened that night ......well in my humble opinion its more likely than NOT
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:evil: Sir I suspect you are a r****t! That being said you and Michael Dunn are two peas in a pod! Your statement young b****s commit most of the "violent crimes" and skin color had nothing to do with it is a contradiction! I h**e to inform you that your r****t delusions has nothing to do with the facts! http://thegrio.com/2013/10/18/jordan-davis-shooter-writes-shockingly-r****t-letters-from-jail/ :thumbdown:

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Feb 18, 2014 10:53:58   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
:evil: Sir I suspect you are a r****t! That being said you and Michael Dunn are two peas in a pod! Your statement young b****s commit most of the "violent crimes" and skin color had nothing to do with it is a contradiction! I h**e to inform you that your r****t delusions has nothing to do with the facts! http://thegrio.com/2013/10/18/jordan-davis-shooter-writes-shockingly-r****t-letters-from-jail/ :thumbdown:


The skin color statement did appear to be a contradiction. However, the fact remains that black males between 15 and 45 are responsible for a majority of violent crime, even though they are only about 6% or so of the population. When you factor out the rural black males in this age group who rarely commit violent crime, you are left with about 4 1/2 to 5 percent of the population committing these acts of violence and murder. Was Dunn justified in this shooting? I don't know.

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Feb 18, 2014 10:58:21   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
Did you even read the link you posted? It merely said that the Jesse Jackson statement that homicides against b****s have tripled since "Stand Your Ground" is a lie. If you are using it as evidence against "Stand Your Ground," use it some more. The number of black homicides has increased from 524 to 532. Last time I looked, that is not 300%. It's more like one percent.


First of all even one percent is unacceptable with this Stand your Ground nonsense! Jesse Jackson isn't exactly a viable source of facts! Due to various nuances it's probably impossible to determine if any increase is entirely due to the Stand your Ground law! I will concede that. Will justifiable homicide statistics increase you bet! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/stand-your-ground-laws_n_3949730.html :shock:

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Feb 18, 2014 11:20:10   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
Learn to do for yourself? You might start with spelling lessons. Or is that r****t? More than 9 of every ten black murder victims are k**led by other b****s. Most of the b****s in this country are descendants of b****s who were brought to this country after being ens***es by other b****s. More than 70% of black children are illegitimate. You blame white people for destruction that you are bringing on yourselves. We don't have to destroy people like you, we just need to be patient while i***ts like you destroy your own kind, who deserve better than you.
Learn to do for yourself? You might start with spe... (show quote)


Why do b****s k*****g b****s concern w***e s*********ts. They do not care. That's a nice historical revisionist slant you have there! To justify s***ery because some b****s were s***e owners is an example of morally depraved indifference! http://www.amren.com/news/2013/03/did-black-people-own-s***es/ 70% of black children are illegitimate? How about some "evidence" to support that r****t statement comrade! http://www.cis.org/illegitimate_nation.html BTW I don't expect an answer anytime soon!

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Feb 18, 2014 11:24:26   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Why do b****s k*****g b****s concern w***e s*********ts. They do not care. That's a nice historical revisionist slant you have there! To justify s***ery because some b****s were s***e owners is an example of morally depraved indifference! http://www.amren.com/news/2013/03/did-black-people-own-s***es/ 70% of black children are illegitimate? How about some "evidence" to support that r****t statement comrade! http://www.cis.org/illegitimate_nation.html BTW I don't expect an answer anytime soon!
Why do b****s k*****g b****s concern w***e s******... (show quote)







http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-womens_health/t/b****s-struggle-percent-unwed-mothers-rate/#.UwOIxfldXHw

I suppose NBC is r****t now.




http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/05/06/census-bureau-links-poverty-with-out-of-wedlock-births

How about US News and World Report?

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Feb 18, 2014 11:30:54   #
bobgssc
 
ginnyt wrote:
So Cool Breeze, the man was wrong on several accounts. Here is a question for you. What if really loud music makes you crazy? You do realize that there is data that shows some people are hypersensitive to noise. It can cause everything from sleeplessness to damage to the inner ear. And can cause insanity, either temporary or rubber room crazy for life crazy. Do you think that these nice young teenagers had a right to play their music so loud that it made contents inside of other cars vibrate?? They were asked to turn down the "music" (and I use that term loosely) and they responded by making it louder. I believe that everyone is entitled to listen to their brand of music, but should NEVER be heard outside the car or home. So, in your world, regardless of the actions, noise, beatings, robbery, verbal assaults, and such that a group of thugs do should just be tolerated if you are white? I think that there is not enough press about the consequences of really pissing other people off. Perhaps thugs will have some consideration and turn down the volume if they know that there are CONSEQUENCES.
So Cool Breeze, the man was wrong on several accou... (show quote)


Your last sentence is the best explanation for the need for gun owner rights. Another example, I live in the country and we have almost zero crime, while it is fairly high in the nearby neighborhoods (not warzone or anything, but higher than we would prefer)... why? Because most people know that people on farms and ranches tend to be armed and therefore not the safest places to rob, attack, wh**ever. The simple thought that there could be a weapon in the hand of the tenant is enough to dissuade most problems. Sorry to hijack the thread but wanted to make a quick point.

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Feb 18, 2014 11:34:59   #
petertimber
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
To compare this murderous depravity to the so called Michael Dunn's (Loud Music) trial is a quaint psychological twist devoid of nuance and probably racially inflammatory! http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/police-arrest-2-teens-ga-baby-k*****g Elkins and the juvenile still was taken into custody although stories was conflicting and his aunt provided him with an alibi it didn't matter! (I wonder why?) What self defense are you referring to? There was none in the Michael Dunn's case period!


I NEVER mentioned self-defense?

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Feb 18, 2014 11:35:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
bobgssc wrote:
Your last sentence is the best explanation for the need for gun owner rights. Another example, I live in the country and we have almost zero crime, while it is fairly high in the nearby neighborhoods (not warzone or anything, but higher than we would prefer)... why? Because most people know that people on farms and ranches tend to be armed and therefore not the safest places to rob, attack, wh**ever. The simple thought that there could be a weapon in the hand of the tenant is enough to dissuade most problems. Sorry to hijack the thread but wanted to make a quick point.
Your last sentence is the best explanation for the... (show quote)


Oderint, dum metuant

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Feb 18, 2014 11:35:50   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
What! This is insanity! So in your world all Black People who listen to loud Rap Music are Thugs and that justifies Murder! I guess when a White Person tells you to do something In Florida and you "disobey" there will be consequences! I suggest you receive some therapy right away!


Thank you for your recommendation, I will take it into consideration if you will consider that these black people may have made some errors that could have, should have, and any thinking person would have avoided. Just stop for a moment and think with your head. Have you taken the time to listen to the words of the rap music? None of it has lyrics about cute kittens, respect, love, or tolerance. So the young people listening to that garbage is being told that w****s are "c*****rs", w****s are always wrong, w****s should be k**led, w****s owe b****s, and so on. Does that racket create calm gentle people or does it plant seeds of revenge for "hundreds of years of injustice?"

Given circumstances where you are afraid for your life and traveling companions, how would you have handled it? Just put up with the noise? Just make sure that it was a gun--I guess a shot to the face like the 13 month old child would do that--before taking any action? Put yourself in both places; those of the three (3 against one, good odds) black men and then turn it around and put yourself in the 60 year old place.

I will be honest, the 60 year old man was wrong on many accounts. He could have driven to another store, but I have to ask.... why should he have to? Was he not entitled to shop where he wanted without being insulated as well as assaulted? He could have remained silent and not asked for the noise to be turned down. But, again....should he have had to? Should the noise had been so loud? Was he not entitled to the freedom to shop without being assaulted with the noise? He could have made sure that the young man had indeed intended to follow through with his thread of k*****g him. But, would that have been too late? What do we expect from a frightened mind? Logic? No, the frightened mind does one of two things..... fight or flight.

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