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Nov 17, 2017 15:16:29   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Who knows what might click and on what day. I try to be more like Jesus the closer I get to going home. He loves and created Kev... unless... Kev is one of those demon possessed AI robots I've read about that rewrite their own code when the humans go home. That would make me mad, like being told I'm off topic about the national debt...:)

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Nov 17, 2017 19:07:12   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Kevyn wrote:
Jesus didn’t write the Bible, half was written before he was born and much of the rest after he died.


I'm glad you know that much. Now...if you just understood what it was about...

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Nov 18, 2017 09:50:40   #
schwabbie28
 
I place much of the responsibility for what I call the "Coarsening of Society" - just my words for the topic, which words I have
used for at least 30 years - upon the acceptance by legitimate regulatory bodies - whether the Federal Communications
Commission or Hollywood's former arbiters (now substantially or totally abandoned) of extreme language and extreme violence in
the public sphere: movies, satellite radio, television, radio, etc. I call what now passes for entertainment "gratuitous sex and
violence", which has surrendered beauty and meaning in presentation. That and the gradual secularization of society have resulted in
where we are - which is not a pretty place. Even once ordinary disputes, which used to be settled on the schoolyard, now lead to
killing with the ubiquitous firearms which are another phenomenon of relatively recent times.

As to the common, coarse, easy, crass, lazy language which now predominates, part at least of the trend of the last 50 years and
abominable lack of present day standards results from the feminine revolution beginning in the 1960s (which itself partly resulted
from the new female freedoms consequent upon "The Pill"). Women surrendered their traditional roles (in this and many other
areas) as ultimate arbiters of acceptable conduct. Once upon a once, men who acted trashily didn't get where they wanted to
be (in a meaningful, deep, loving married relationship with a woman) - can you spell SEX? But women gave up all of their power
with the sexual/feminine/equality/equal rights movement. The result is that men can now behave in ways which formerly would
never have resulted in sex with a desirable woman. Such behavior is no longer demanded of our former behavioral arbiters. Women
may now be more "equal". But equal to WHAT?

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Nov 18, 2017 11:19:17   #
GmanTerry
 
Peewee wrote:
I'm kind of old, and I think I have it partially figured out... I think it started with the Fed Reserve (big greedy banksters), then the Fed Income tax in 1913 (greedy government), then the church gave up the right to censor films, then no fault divorce, then prayer out of the schools, then sex ed, then abortion, then same sex marriage... and Hugh Hefner played his role and so did Hollywood and drugs, the sexual revolution of the 60's... looking back it all seems so planned, little by little. We need to repent and return to God and our foundations and Constitution and it's original intent. All our institutions have been failing for a long time. It's called "moral decay".
I'm kind of old, and I think I have it partially f... (show quote)


Us older folks remember things the younger folks never saw. Husbands and wives were not allowed in the same bed on TV. Words like "Damn" and "Hell" were thought to be crass and unacceptable in mixed company. Language, written on Tee shirts and spoken was respectful and suitable for young and female ears. People were polite and gave up their seats for the elderly and for woman. Men respected women and opened doors for them and helped them with their chairs. Women entered before men. And people were respectful of one another. All these good things have gone by the wayside and look at what we have now.


Semper Fi

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Nov 18, 2017 11:54:18   #
Radiance3
 
MtnMamma wrote:
I admit to being totally inadequate at discussing all the aspects and nuances of this issue. And there are many, or at least I get the sense there is. Being polite and respectful was the ultimate of "being good" growing up. And my world as a child was ordered by this and all seemed to agree. Decency and honor was, it seemed, everywhere. All adults were good. Not just good, absolutely so. Yet I was lucky in that atmosphere. Nothing wrong ever happened to me. But that is not my point. Tremendous threats of abuse were there in the past yet our society is steadily destroying all standards of common respect, fairness, and kindness. Too restrictive on individual freedom. Its social mores are oppressive. Please and thank you are tragic references to a hypocritical past of authoritarian, fraternal control.

For me, I hate the way we talk now. I fear this "freedom to be who we are" will kill what we could be. We need standards. Moral standards. Strict moral standards. Freedom is not being unrestrained in our thoughts or ways for what we want, but disciplined in working for what is best for our place in the community of humankind. Our ultimate well-being is intimately tied to, entwined, with our neighbors. The decent and sane know this without thinking.
I admit to being totally inadequate at discussing ... (show quote)


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Our social decency is gone; and moral decay is now the "New Normal". It turned 180 degrees into vulgar and immoral culture. So many people became narcissistic, immoral, criminals, selfish, haters, rapists, terrorists, thieves, and lost all kinds of civilized human behavior.

I can recall it got worst since Clinton was the president from 1993 to 2001. Why? People follow the leaders. It got worst under Mr. Obama when most blacks want to separate from the white. Then came so many protest and violence on the streets when BLM was empowered at the WH. Then so many other followed like ANTIFA, CAIR, ISLAM RADICALS, ILLEGAL ALIENS, DACA, MS-13 GANGS, HOLLYWOOD IMMORALITIES, arrogance, and narcissism.
Some of the reasons:
The influx of so many illegal aliens who don't have loyalty and patriotism to our country.
The invites of so many Muslims who many of them are terrorists, and whose goals are to taking this country away, and kill the infidels for their god. While taxpayers feed them, they multiply fast, isolate, don't assimilate, and plan ways to kill us.
Those so many alien professors teaching and brain washing our kids of progressive and liberal behavior.
Those so many free loaders who depend on taxpayers, and live the training of their kids to public schools.
Those so many women who abort or don't abort but make babies without fathers to guide children as they grow up.
Those drug dealers who poison our people as they reap billions of dollars out from our country.
Those who focus on making hundreds of millions of dollars via all illegal and criminal means.
Those who lost focus in the Christian faith, and left their ways into satanic life.. E.g. The influence of that FICTION book, "The Vinci Code" of Dan Brown, had eroded the Christian faith and morals, both in the US and in Europe. Therefore most people now turned into the powers of Satan, and Islam, where rape and terrorism are justified especially now in Europe.
The erosion of public school system, which is now are manipulated by greed of the Labor Union, where teachers who are non-performing could not be removed, thus public schools performance went down to the lowest among 3rd world countries since 2010.
Kids no longer thought Civics and History in public schools. Why are they dumb? US public schools' performance rank lowest in Math, Science, Reading, and History, among world countries. It is shameful.
The establishment of "political correctness", instead of the guidelines of our "Constitution".

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Nov 18, 2017 11:55:59   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
MtnMamma wrote:
I admit to being totally inadequate at discussing all the aspects and nuances of this issue. And there are many, or at least I get the sense there is. Being polite and respectful was the ultimate of "being good" growing up. And my world as a child was ordered by this and all seemed to agree. Decency and honor was, it seemed, everywhere. All adults were good. Not just good, absolutely so. Yet I was lucky in that atmosphere. Nothing wrong ever happened to me. But that is not my point. Tremendous threats of abuse were there in the past yet our society is steadily destroying all standards of common respect, fairness, and kindness. Too restrictive on individual freedom. Its social mores are oppressive. Please and thank you are tragic references to a hypocritical past of authoritarian, fraternal control.

For me, I hate the way we talk now. I fear this "freedom to be who we are" will kill what we could be. We need standards. Moral standards. Strict moral standards. Freedom is not being unrestrained in our thoughts or ways for what we want, but disciplined in working for what is best for our place in the community of humankind. Our ultimate well-being is intimately tied to, entwined, with our neighbors. The decent and sane know this without thinking.
I admit to being totally inadequate at discussing ... (show quote)


MtnMamma: Great Post! The Family unit supersedes everything as well!

"Bring up a child in the way he should grow and when he is older he
will not depart from it!

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Nov 18, 2017 18:43:36   #
rebob14
 
debeda wrote:
GREAT quote!


It can be found in Proverbs 25:28

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Nov 18, 2017 20:19:04   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Your last paragraph pretty much said it all. It is respect for each other and knowing that we all have came from different backgrounds. It seems now days, any discussion ends in a pissing match. That is why I started my do not reply list here. I want to have a dialog with people that want to discuss the issues, respect what the other has to say and go from there. But, it seems there are those here that believe they can spout their hate. In wild tantrums and expect us to take them serious. This was a good post. Don't cut yourself short. Life is learning.
MtnMamma wrote:
I admit to being totally inadequate at discussing all the aspects and nuances of this issue. And there are many, or at least I get the sense there is. Being polite and respectful was the ultimate of "being good" growing up. And my world as a child was ordered by this and all seemed to agree. Decency and honor was, it seemed, everywhere. All adults were good. Not just good, absolutely so. Yet I was lucky in that atmosphere. Nothing wrong ever happened to me. But that is not my point. Tremendous threats of abuse were there in the past yet our society is steadily destroying all standards of common respect, fairness, and kindness. Too restrictive on individual freedom. Its social mores are oppressive. Please and thank you are tragic references to a hypocritical past of authoritarian, fraternal control.

For me, I hate the way we talk now. I fear this "freedom to be who we are" will kill what we could be. We need standards. Moral standards. Strict moral standards. Freedom is not being unrestrained in our thoughts or ways for what we want, but disciplined in working for what is best for our place in the community of humankind. Our ultimate well-being is intimately tied to, entwined, with our neighbors. The decent and sane know this without thinking.
I admit to being totally inadequate at discussing ... (show quote)

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Nov 18, 2017 20:37:50   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Don't know if this is spelled right but... Touche... I think it means a great counter point scored.

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Nov 18, 2017 21:06:48   #
boofhead
 
My kids ask me what Noah looked like but I am not as old as all that however I too have seen this coarsening of society. When I was a tad I was not allowed to swear or blaspheme (my Mom took me out back to swat me with a switch around the legs because I said "damn") yet now it is common even in the household. I try to stop the potty mouths of my kids and their friends at least in my house and I remember when it was absolutely forbidden to swear in front of a female. I don't think it is totally because we have drifted away from Christianity because I knew a lot of people then and even now who don't follow any formal religion but are good people nevertheless. What I blame for the moral failures we have seen over the last, say, 60 years, has been the influence of the Demobatshitcrazycrats. Anything touched by the progressives, the left, the Nazis (who were socialists and not conservatives), the Fascists (same as Nazis in their primary beliefs), RINOs and communists has been infected and has rotted away just like their brains. Every day a new example, including exposing our once-great society to the current invasion of our country by illegals, drug gangs, Sharia, political correctness, abortion-on-demand and Entitlement which together will change it to one even they will not want to live in. Take a look at the Department of Indoctrination (ED) to see their agenda unfettered and realize that they have the attention of our kids from their earliest, impressionable age to see what danger we are in.

If you want to know your enemy, take a look at Kevyn's posts.

I would say that everything that has gone wrong with society can be laid at the feet of the left, no matter what they might call themselves.

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Nov 18, 2017 21:13:17   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Wow, who let the dogs out, you guys are on fire and I'm loving it! Keep firing away, your on target.

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Nov 18, 2017 21:24:40   #
GmanTerry
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
MtnMamma: Great Post! The Family unit supersedes everything as well!

"Bring up a child in the way he should grow and when he is older he
will not depart from it!


Maybe there is hope for the future generations.

That is a great picture. It reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzpmAeiu1fI

Semper Fi

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Nov 18, 2017 21:26:30   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
True words.
out of the woods wrote:
I absolutely agree. To live in a society peacably, we must be civilized, or the chaos that we now see unfolding becomes the norm. Turn on the TV and what is considered comedy, but our most vile and base weaknesses.. The news likewise. This is now accepted as we have forsaken our moral foundation, , mainly our accountability to God, but also to society at large. Today we are instructed to damn all and please ourselves, regardless of consequence, and the consequences we are reaping are dire. This all started with the destruction of the family, we are a nation of negected undisciplined children. Many were never taught to engage in life, but are simply running amok.
I absolutely agree. To live in a society peacably,... (show quote)

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Nov 18, 2017 21:46:21   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Can't disagree with any of this post. I back talked my Mother 1 time, I was about 8. She slapped me and I picked myself up across the room. Never did that again. Oh yeah, like what you said about Kevyn. Tried to reason with him. There is a cure ignorance, there is no cure for being stupid.
banceoofhead wrote:
My kids ask me what Noah looked like but I am not as old as all that however I too have seen this coarsening of society. When I was a tad I was not allowed to swear or blaspheme (my Mom took me out back to swat me with a switch around the legs because I said "damn") yet now it is common even in the household. I try to stop the potty mouths of my kids and their friends at least in my house and I remember when it was absolutely forbidden to swear in front of a female. I don't think it is totally because we have drifted away from Christianity because I knew a lot of people then and even now who don't follow any formal religion but are good people nevertheless. What I blame for the moral failures we have seen over the last, say, 60 years, has been the influence of the Demobatshitcrazycrats. Anything touched by the progressives, the left, the Nazis (who were socialists and not conservatives), the Fascists (same as Nazis in their primary beliefs), RINOs and communists has been infected and has rotted away just like their brains. Every day a new example, including exposing our once-great society to the current invasion of our country by illegals, drug gangs, Sharia, political correctness, abortion-on-demand and Entitlement which together will change it to one even they will not want to live in. Take a look at the Department of Indoctrination (ED) to see their agenda unfettered and realize that they have the attention of our kids from their earliest, impressionable age to see what danger we are in.

If you want to know your enemy, take a look at Kevyn's posts.

I would say that everything that has gone wrong with society can be laid at the feet of the left, no matter what they might call themselves.
My kids ask me what Noah looked like but I am not ... (show quote)

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Nov 18, 2017 21:47:39   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Loved it, a sweet innocent child with good parents doing their jobs and accepting the responsibility that comes with having children. Not just with food, clothing and shelter but the qualities you can't see but are just as real and as important.

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