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Nov 15, 2017 08:55:51   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I know it's long, 2 pages and I know it is full of shit. However, will it play? I do lawful not legal and this is my best effort.
Signed and sworn Jerratt (sp) with your certified copy will be sent this week. This is just an early heads up.

this email with the attachment; went to 51 city, county, state, federal corporate entities


I wish you well. Of course, you will not be receiving any replies that make any sense, and you will be targeted as a dissident in the judicial system. From now on, every time your license plate goes across one of those automatic readers, you'll be pulled over and harassed, just for the fun of it. Better not react; you'll be on your way to jail charged with 'resisting'. Don't call for assistance or to report a crime, they'll be all over you looking for any tiny reason to drag you back to that awful cage for another night in the freezer.

How do I know this? Because it happened to me. The one thing they hate more than anything else is to know that you are not afraid of them. When one of them sticks his gun in your face and threatens to "blow your fucking head off", and you tell him to kiss your ass, that's when you'll feel the hate. As the good Judge said, "It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong". I still have my head. The cop who threatened me, unfortunately, also still has his job.

And don't expect any justice from your local courts; they're just as bad if not worse than the cops you have to deal with on the street. I had one judge who deliberately suppressed pertinent evidence in order to force me to agree to an adjudication instead of a jury trial, because there was no way a jury would have convicted me on no evidence whatsoever. Then she literally gave me the stiffest punishments she was allowed to impose. And don't think you'll get any kind of relief from the public defender's office, they hide their collusion under a veil of incompetence. A judge suppresses evidence, the public defender appeals to the next higher court on your instructions. The reason for the appeal? "Denial of a quick and speedy trial". No, Dumbass! It was supposed to be based on the suppression of evidence! Better luck next time, right?

Anyway, yeah, I really do wish you well. I have a feeling you might need it.

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Nov 15, 2017 09:21:26   #
okie don
 
Larry's right, unfortunately Ron...
TYhey just make up the ' rules' as they go.
' contempt of court' is most popular.
Can you say: " stacked deck"!

Us old OPPer's { silent generationer's- born before 1945} are all for 'ya bro, but it's a ' tough row to hoe' (:

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Nov 15, 2017 09:23:46   #
okie don
 
If the States were ' organized' and had Grand Juries and ' Militias' to back up the Grand Juries, there would be something the ' sheeple' could
do to right the wrongs but the men in " black Dresses" set the rules of the game they play. IMHO anyway

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Nov 15, 2017 09:25:10   #
okie don
 
Anyone out there in ' cyberland' who wants to learn more about ' common Law and Admiralty/maritime Law,
here's a great website:
www.usavsus.info

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Nov 15, 2017 10:59:09   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Please stop your negative prognostications. You speak against you own best interests, Be impeccable with your word.

Hemiman wrote:
I agree with you on this but all you will get for your troubles is a padded room.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:01:09   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Thanks Don. We should have an action committee here on OPP. Learn what to do to improve your own best interests. Then take action.

okie don wrote:
Anyone out there in ' cyberland' who wants to learn more about ' common Law and Admiralty/maritime Law,
here's a great website:
www.usavsus.info

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Nov 15, 2017 11:06:19   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Please stop you negative prognostications.

Be impeccable with your word.

Don't speak against your own best interests.

I am guaranteed remedy in law and equity. I will bend every effort to obtain my inalienable rights.

Thank you for your wishes of good luck. I send to you all the best of every good fortune.

Larry the Legend wrote:
I wish you well. Of course, you will not be receiving any replies that make any sense, and you will be targeted as a dissident in the judicial system. From now on, every time your license plate goes across one of those automatic readers, you'll be pulled over and harassed, just for the fun of it. Better not react; you'll be on your way to jail charged with 'resisting'. Don't call for assistance or to report a crime, they'll be all over you looking for any tiny reason to drag you back to that awful cage for another night in the freezer.

How do I know this? Because it happened to me. The one thing they hate more than anything else is to know that you are not afraid of them. When one of them sticks his gun in your face and threatens to "blow your fucking head off", and you tell him to kiss your ass, that's when you'll feel the hate. As the good Judge said, "It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong". I still have my head. The cop who threatened me, unfortunately, also still has his job.

And don't expect any justice from your local courts; they're just as bad if not worse than the cops you have to deal with on the street. I had one judge who deliberately suppressed pertinent evidence in order to force me to agree to an adjudication instead of a jury trial, because there was no way a jury would have convicted me on no evidence whatsoever. Then she literally gave me the stiffest punishments she was allowed to impose. And don't think you'll get any kind of relief from the public defender's office, they hide their collusion under a veil of incompetence. A judge suppresses evidence, the public defender appeals to the next higher court on your instructions. The reason for the appeal? "Denial of a quick and speedy trial". No, Dumbass! It was supposed to be based on the suppression of evidence! Better luck next time, right?

Anyway, yeah, I really do wish you well. I have a feeling you might need it.
I wish you well. Of course, you will not be recei... (show quote)

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Nov 15, 2017 11:13:05   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Take the time to read the founding documents Kevyn. You are so far down the US citizen path you missed the path to freedom. liberty and justice for all. Your rights come from god codified in the D of I. Your guarantees come from the AofC and the Constitutions. the courage to stand for yourself you must bring to the table.


Kevyn wrote:
You have an obligation to produce your driving license and in most states registration and proof of insurance, to fail to do so is a misdemeanor that will subject you to arrest. There is a place for people who believe they are somehow sovereign citizens and not subject to things like drivers licences and plates for their cars, the place is the county jail. While there they can school the other inmates on their special understanding of the constitution.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:14:51   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
that is a Gestapo state. It takes some courage to stand and deliver.

Kevyn wrote:
They can also arrest you and tow your car, which is the likely outcome of such an exchange, right or wrong.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:42:53   #
okie don
 
Kevyn needs to get on Oregon Ed's conference calls and learn some hard facts about how we've all been. 'duped' grand parents, parents and all.
" freedom is not FREE"

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Nov 15, 2017 12:12:33   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
exatamundo.

okie don wrote:
Kevyn needs to get on Oregon Ed's conference calls and learn some hard facts about how we've all been. 'duped' grand parents, parents and all.
" freedom is not FREE"

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Nov 16, 2017 13:26:26   #
lamont
 
Kevyn wrote:
You have an obligation to produce your driving license and in most states registration and proof of insurance, to fail to do so is a misdemeanor that will subject you to arrest. There is a place for people who believe they are somehow sovereign citizens and not subject to things like drivers licences and plates for their cars, the place is the county jail. While there they can school the other inmates on their special understanding of the constitution.


The problem with you Kevyn is that your brain cells, albeit there aren't that many, have been so destroyed by all those drugs you use. If you had any balls you would do the research on this subject before you start spouting off the standard elite BS about it being a privilege rather than a right. There are many cases adjudicated in court going all the way back into the 1800's that spell out just how it is a right. If you are not committing any felony or are using your vehicle as a commerical mode of transport then you are free to travel any road in the U.S. without a license. However, you will probably get stopped numerous times on the way, because the cops are just as dumb on this subject as you are.

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Nov 16, 2017 14:43:33   #
okie don
 
Thanks Lamont.
I gave case sites, but, as usual Kevyn knows everything. Ask him!!!
Probably runs Wikipedia. Lol's

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Nov 25, 2017 01:40:52   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
There you go. Stated clearly right or wrong does not enter into it. They enforce the code on those that are not US citizens and susceptible to the code. An American is not a member of that group and not bound by their corporate code. This is called color of law a legal fiction.


Kevyn wrote:
They can also arrest you and tow your car, which is the likely outcome of such an exchange, right or wrong.

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Nov 25, 2017 06:30:49   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
ron vrooman wrote:
Please stop your negative prognostications. You speak against you own best interests, Be impeccable with your word.


You are absoulty right and I apologize,good luck .

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