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Feb 7, 2014 20:49:51   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
As an informed American and patriot, I have lived long enough to recognize and identify the ignored liberties and rights of the American people by our government. Our Founding Fathers were students of common sense and history. They knew from the study of past civilizations the inherent nature of man. That inherent nature has shown that when men have unregulated power and authority over other men, they will always abuse that power.

The genius of our founders was that they identified the root cause of the failure and extinction of past governments. They developed a formula to prevent those failures in the future.

To prevent history from repeating its self, a Constitutional Republic was born. America is a Constitutional republic by design and Constitutional guarantee as stated in Article IV Section 4: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.”

A Constitutional republic guarantees officials are democratically elected as representatives of the people and that they must govern according to existing Constitutional law. These laws limit government’s power over the people.

The creation of our Constitutional republic was not a fluke. Our Founding Fathers knew that a pure democracy was akin to the monarchy from which the people had fought and died to free themselves.

Our Founders believed that democracy in its pure form is a government system of mob rule where 51 percent of the population will dictate the fate and the rights of the other 49 percent.

Knowing this, our Founders chose a democratic representative system of government also known as a “republican form,” a system of government that governs the people by Constitutional law and not the tyranny of mob rule that many forms of democracy offered. Australia and the United Kingdom have a democratic system of government that allows the citizens to elect officials to represent them but not necessarily represent their wishes.

In the United States the people elect their representatives, who must abide by Constitutional law and the limitations it places on governments control over the people.

All governments — Federal, State, county and city — are created by the authority of the American people. As such, they belong to the people and are to be obedient slaves not only to every word in the Constitution, but the intent and spirit of its creators.

Let’s be very clear on this point: As a Constitutional republic, no government or its representatives at any level can create a law or rule that exceeds the authority given to that branch of government by the Constitution.

Equally important, the same Constitutional standards apply when laws or rules are created that may restrict, impede or deny any citizen the rights Constitutionally guaranteed by our Bill of Rights.

For the first time in history, a blueprint for freedom was created in the form of a Constitution. As recipients of these protected freedoms, all we the people had to do was to be vigilant and actively participate in the republican process.

This would insure the safety of these freedoms, for all future generations to come.

In 1787, our Founding Fathers gave us the greatest gift mortal man could give their fellow man, the gift of freedom guaranteed by a written Constitution and a Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson observed that the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. I believe a great example of that would be the Supreme Court’s claiming an authority and power to interpret the people’s Constitution.

In 1803, just 16 years after the creation of our Constitution, the Supreme Court, in my opinion, used the court case Marbury vs. Madison as an instrument to claim the Constitutional authority to interpret our Constitution.

I believe it is important to note: Nowhere in our constitution is the Supreme Court given authority to interpret our Constitution.

In fact, it was no accident these powers were not put in the hands of nine unelected attorneys who would make up the Supreme Court. The major reason was the people’s justified contempt, mistrust and hatred of attorneys, judges and politicians.

History shows clearly the people of America did not ask our Founders to protect us from government’s attorneys, judges and politicians. Instead they demanded protection through our Constitution’s Bill of Rights and the Constitutional protections of a trial by jury.

There is a reason our Founding Fathers did not clearly announce the authority of our Supreme Court to interpret our Constitution in Article III of our Constitution.

Common sense dictates that he who controls the interpretation of America’s Constitution controls the law of the land and, therefore, controls the United States and its people.

Our Founders and the framers of our Constitution were extraordinary men. These men had a vision for the future of this place called America and its people.

Just as important was their knowledge of history and the failures and success of past societies and their governments.

These men were driven in their quest to prevent anything like the king and his Star Chamber courts from ever existing in America. Thus, their mistrust and outright hatred of judges, attorneys and government officials was known far and wide.

They also shared Montesquieu’s theory of the three branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. They knew and understood that anyone given the duties of one of these offices shall not perform the duties of the other.

They realized when any one person or group of people possessed all three powers freedom would be lost and tyranny would reign supreme.

These extraordinary men, armed with the above knowledge and experience, fought for more than 10 years to create a Constitution and a country that was the envy of the rest of the world. To believe they would then turn it all over to nine unelected government attorneys is taking stupid to a new level.

You only have to look at the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare to understand why our Founders did not give the Supreme Court the authority to interpret our Constitution.

The people of the United States have lost nearly all Constitutional protections, taken for granted for the past 238 years. These protections were removed slowly, one by one, leaving our once-great Nation a “Nation of ignorant sheep.” People forgot true freedom long ago, just like Jefferson predicted they would.

Will our freedoms ever return? Will government officials return to serving the people instead of ruling over them? It is doubtful, but not impossible.

The coming day when citizens of this country are unable to go to the grocery store and fill their carts will be the day we all find out what changes are to take place. I can make the educated guess that none of us will ever live in a true Constitutional republic again.

The fault for this tragedy will lie at the feet of the stupid.

–Curt Chancler

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Feb 7, 2014 23:51:57   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
Should be required reading for every American voter




quote=Nuclearian]As an informed American and patriot, I have lived long enough to recognize and identify the ignored liberties and rights of the American people by our government. Our Founding Fathers were students of common sense and history. They knew from the study of past civilizations the inherent nature of man. That inherent nature has shown that when men have unregulated power and authority over other men, they will always abuse that power.

The genius of our founders was that they identified the root cause of the failure and extinction of past governments. They developed a formula to prevent those failures in the future.

To prevent history from repeating its self, a Constitutional Republic was born. America is a Constitutional republic by design and Constitutional guarantee as stated in Article IV Section 4: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.”

A Constitutional republic guarantees officials are democratically elected as representatives of the people and that they must govern according to existing Constitutional law. These laws limit government’s power over the people.

The creation of our Constitutional republic was not a fluke. Our Founding Fathers knew that a pure democracy was akin to the monarchy from which the people had fought and died to free themselves.

Our Founders believed that democracy in its pure form is a government system of mob rule where 51 percent of the population will dictate the fate and the rights of the other 49 percent.

Knowing this, our Founders chose a democratic representative system of government also known as a “republican form,” a system of government that governs the people by Constitutional law and not the tyranny of mob rule that many forms of democracy offered. Australia and the United Kingdom have a democratic system of government that allows the citizens to elect officials to represent them but not necessarily represent their wishes.

In the United States the people elect their representatives, who must abide by Constitutional law and the limitations it places on governments control over the people.

All governments — Federal, State, county and city — are created by the authority of the American people. As such, they belong to the people and are to be obedient slaves not only to every word in the Constitution, but the intent and spirit of its creators.

Let’s be very clear on this point: As a Constitutional republic, no government or its representatives at any level can create a law or rule that exceeds the authority given to that branch of government by the Constitution.

Equally important, the same Constitutional standards apply when laws or rules are created that may restrict, impede or deny any citizen the rights Constitutionally guaranteed by our Bill of Rights.

For the first time in history, a blueprint for freedom was created in the form of a Constitution. As recipients of these protected freedoms, all we the people had to do was to be vigilant and actively participate in the republican process.

This would insure the safety of these freedoms, for all future generations to come.

In 1787, our Founding Fathers gave us the greatest gift mortal man could give their fellow man, the gift of freedom guaranteed by a written Constitution and a Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson observed that the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. I believe a great example of that would be the Supreme Court’s claiming an authority and power to interpret the people’s Constitution.

In 1803, just 16 years after the creation of our Constitution, the Supreme Court, in my opinion, used the court case Marbury vs. Madison as an instrument to claim the Constitutional authority to interpret our Constitution.

I believe it is important to note: Nowhere in our constitution is the Supreme Court given authority to interpret our Constitution.

In fact, it was no accident these powers were not put in the hands of nine unelected attorneys who would make up the Supreme Court. The major reason was the people’s justified contempt, mistrust and hatred of attorneys, judges and politicians.

History shows clearly the people of America did not ask our Founders to protect us from government’s attorneys, judges and politicians. Instead they demanded protection through our Constitution’s Bill of Rights and the Constitutional protections of a trial by jury.

There is a reason our Founding Fathers did not clearly announce the authority of our Supreme Court to interpret our Constitution in Article III of our Constitution.

Common sense dictates that he who controls the interpretation of America’s Constitution controls the law of the land and, therefore, controls the United States and its people.

Our Founders and the framers of our Constitution were extraordinary men. These men had a vision for the future of this place called America and its people.

Just as important was their knowledge of history and the failures and success of past societies and their governments.

These men were driven in their quest to prevent anything like the king and his Star Chamber courts from ever existing in America. Thus, their mistrust and outright hatred of judges, attorneys and government officials was known far and wide.

They also shared Montesquieu’s theory of the three branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. They knew and understood that anyone given the duties of one of these offices shall not perform the duties of the other.

They realized when any one person or group of people possessed all three powers freedom would be lost and tyranny would reign supreme.

These extraordinary men, armed with the above knowledge and experience, fought for more than 10 years to create a Constitution and a country that was the envy of the rest of the world. To believe they would then turn it all over to nine unelected government attorneys is taking stupid to a new level.

You only have to look at the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare to understand why our Founders did not give the Supreme Court the authority to interpret our Constitution.

The people of the United States have lost nearly all Constitutional protections, taken for granted for the past 238 years. These protections were removed slowly, one by one, leaving our once-great Nation a “Nation of ignorant sheep.” People forgot true freedom long ago, just like Jefferson predicted they would.

Will our freedoms ever return? Will government officials return to serving the people instead of ruling over them? It is doubtful, but not impossible.

The coming day when citizens of this country are unable to go to the grocery store and fill their carts will be the day we all find out what changes are to take place. I can make the educated guess that none of us will ever live in a true Constitutional republic again.

The fault for this tragedy will lie at the feet of the stupid.

–Curt Chancler[/quote]

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Feb 8, 2014 00:33:16   #
Weyner
 
beammeupscotty wrote:
Should be required reading for every American voter




quote=Nuclearian]As an informed American and patriot, I have lived long enough to recognize and identify the ignored liberties and rights of the American people by our government. Our Founding Fathers were students of common sense and history. They knew from the study of past civilizations the inherent nature of man. That inherent nature has shown that when men have unregulated power and authority over other men, they will always abuse that power.

The genius of our founders was that they identified the root cause of the failure and extinction of past governments. They developed a formula to prevent those failures in the future.

To prevent history from repeating its self, a Constitutional Republic was born. America is a Constitutional republic by design and Constitutional guarantee as stated in Article IV Section 4: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.”

A Constitutional republic guarantees officials are democratically elected as representatives of the people and that they must govern according to existing Constitutional law. These laws limit government’s power over the people.

The creation of our Constitutional republic was not a fluke. Our Founding Fathers knew that a pure democracy was akin to the monarchy from which the people had fought and died to free themselves.

Our Founders believed that democracy in its pure form is a government system of mob rule where 51 percent of the population will dictate the fate and the rights of the other 49 percent.

Knowing this, our Founders chose a democratic representative system of government also known as a “republican form,” a system of government that governs the people by Constitutional law and not the tyranny of mob rule that many forms of democracy offered. Australia and the United Kingdom have a democratic system of government that allows the citizens to elect officials to represent them but not necessarily represent their wishes.

In the United States the people elect their representatives, who must abide by Constitutional law and the limitations it places on governments control over the people.

All governments — Federal, State, county and city — are created by the authority of the American people. As such, they belong to the people and are to be obedient slaves not only to every word in the Constitution, but the intent and spirit of its creators.

Let’s be very clear on this point: As a Constitutional republic, no government or its representatives at any level can create a law or rule that exceeds the authority given to that branch of government by the Constitution.

Equally important, the same Constitutional standards apply when laws or rules are created that may restrict, impede or deny any citizen the rights Constitutionally guaranteed by our Bill of Rights.

For the first time in history, a blueprint for freedom was created in the form of a Constitution. As recipients of these protected freedoms, all we the people had to do was to be vigilant and actively participate in the republican process.

This would insure the safety of these freedoms, for all future generations to come.

In 1787, our Founding Fathers gave us the greatest gift mortal man could give their fellow man, the gift of freedom guaranteed by a written Constitution and a Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson observed that the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. I believe a great example of that would be the Supreme Court’s claiming an authority and power to interpret the people’s Constitution.

In 1803, just 16 years after the creation of our Constitution, the Supreme Court, in my opinion, used the court case Marbury vs. Madison as an instrument to claim the Constitutional authority to interpret our Constitution.

I believe it is important to note: Nowhere in our constitution is the Supreme Court given authority to interpret our Constitution.

In fact, it was no accident these powers were not put in the hands of nine unelected attorneys who would make up the Supreme Court. The major reason was the people’s justified contempt, mistrust and hatred of attorneys, judges and politicians.

History shows clearly the people of America did not ask our Founders to protect us from government’s attorneys, judges and politicians. Instead they demanded protection through our Constitution’s Bill of Rights and the Constitutional protections of a trial by jury.

There is a reason our Founding Fathers did not clearly announce the authority of our Supreme Court to interpret our Constitution in Article III of our Constitution.

Common sense dictates that he who controls the interpretation of America’s Constitution controls the law of the land and, therefore, controls the United States and its people.

Our Founders and the framers of our Constitution were extraordinary men. These men had a vision for the future of this place called America and its people.

Just as important was their knowledge of history and the failures and success of past societies and their governments.

These men were driven in their quest to prevent anything like the king and his Star Chamber courts from ever existing in America. Thus, their mistrust and outright hatred of judges, attorneys and government officials was known far and wide.

They also shared Montesquieu’s theory of the three branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. They knew and understood that anyone given the duties of one of these offices shall not perform the duties of the other.

They realized when any one person or group of people possessed all three powers freedom would be lost and tyranny would reign supreme.

These extraordinary men, armed with the above knowledge and experience, fought for more than 10 years to create a Constitution and a country that was the envy of the rest of the world. To believe they would then turn it all over to nine unelected government attorneys is taking stupid to a new level.

You only have to look at the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare to understand why our Founders did not give the Supreme Court the authority to interpret our Constitution.

The people of the United States have lost nearly all Constitutional protections, taken for granted for the past 238 years. These protections were removed slowly, one by one, leaving our once-great Nation a “Nation of ignorant sheep.” People forgot true freedom long ago, just like Jefferson predicted they would.

Will our freedoms ever return? Will government officials return to serving the people instead of ruling over them? It is doubtful, but not impossible.

The coming day when citizens of this country are unable to go to the grocery store and fill their carts will be the day we all find out what changes are to take place. I can make the educated guess that none of us will ever live in a true Constitutional republic again.

The fault for this tragedy will lie at the feet of the stupid.

–Curt Chancler
Should be required reading for every American vote... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:[/quote]
I am going to send this post to everyone I know,so they will understand what our Constitution is all about,many young people just don't know we even have one!

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Feb 8, 2014 07:26:45   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Excellent post. I wonder where all the rabble rousers are to "comment?"

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Feb 8, 2014 08:12:32   #
Grampy
 
Nuclearian wrote:
As an informed American and patriot, I have lived long enough to recognize and identify the ignored liberties and rights of the American people by our government. Our Founding Fathers were students of common sense and history. They knew from the study of past civilizations the inherent nature of man. That inherent nature has shown that when men have unregulated power and authority over other men, they will always abuse that power.

The genius of our founders was that they identified the root cause of the failure and extinction of past governments. They developed a formula to prevent those failures in the future.

To prevent history from repeating its self, a Constitutional Republic was born. America is a Constitutional republic by design and Constitutional guarantee as stated in Article IV Section 4: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.”

A Constitutional republic guarantees officials are democratically elected as representatives of the people and that they must govern according to existing Constitutional law. These laws limit government’s power over the people.

The creation of our Constitutional republic was not a fluke. Our Founding Fathers knew that a pure democracy was akin to the monarchy from which the people had fought and died to free themselves.

Our Founders believed that democracy in its pure form is a government system of mob rule where 51 percent of the population will dictate the fate and the rights of the other 49 percent.

Knowing this, our Founders chose a democratic representative system of government also known as a “republican form,” a system of government that governs the people by Constitutional law and not the tyranny of mob rule that many forms of democracy offered. Australia and the United Kingdom have a democratic system of government that allows the citizens to elect officials to represent them but not necessarily represent their wishes.

In the United States the people elect their representatives, who must abide by Constitutional law and the limitations it places on governments control over the people.

All governments — Federal, State, county and city — are created by the authority of the American people. As such, they belong to the people and are to be obedient slaves not only to every word in the Constitution, but the intent and spirit of its creators.

Let’s be very clear on this point: As a Constitutional republic, no government or its representatives at any level can create a law or rule that exceeds the authority given to that branch of government by the Constitution.

Equally important, the same Constitutional standards apply when laws or rules are created that may restrict, impede or deny any citizen the rights Constitutionally guaranteed by our Bill of Rights.

For the first time in history, a blueprint for freedom was created in the form of a Constitution. As recipients of these protected freedoms, all we the people had to do was to be vigilant and actively participate in the republican process.

This would insure the safety of these freedoms, for all future generations to come.

In 1787, our Founding Fathers gave us the greatest gift mortal man could give their fellow man, the gift of freedom guaranteed by a written Constitution and a Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson observed that the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. I believe a great example of that would be the Supreme Court’s claiming an authority and power to interpret the people’s Constitution.

In 1803, just 16 years after the creation of our Constitution, the Supreme Court, in my opinion, used the court case Marbury vs. Madison as an instrument to claim the Constitutional authority to interpret our Constitution.

I believe it is important to note: Nowhere in our constitution is the Supreme Court given authority to interpret our Constitution.

In fact, it was no accident these powers were not put in the hands of nine unelected attorneys who would make up the Supreme Court. The major reason was the people’s justified contempt, mistrust and hatred of attorneys, judges and politicians.

History shows clearly the people of America did not ask our Founders to protect us from government’s attorneys, judges and politicians. Instead they demanded protection through our Constitution’s Bill of Rights and the Constitutional protections of a trial by jury.

There is a reason our Founding Fathers did not clearly announce the authority of our Supreme Court to interpret our Constitution in Article III of our Constitution.

Common sense dictates that he who controls the interpretation of America’s Constitution controls the law of the land and, therefore, controls the United States and its people.

Our Founders and the framers of our Constitution were extraordinary men. These men had a vision for the future of this place called America and its people.

Just as important was their knowledge of history and the failures and success of past societies and their governments.

These men were driven in their quest to prevent anything like the king and his Star Chamber courts from ever existing in America. Thus, their mistrust and outright hatred of judges, attorneys and government officials was known far and wide.

They also shared Montesquieu’s theory of the three branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. They knew and understood that anyone given the duties of one of these offices shall not perform the duties of the other.

They realized when any one person or group of people possessed all three powers freedom would be lost and tyranny would reign supreme.

These extraordinary men, armed with the above knowledge and experience, fought for more than 10 years to create a Constitution and a country that was the envy of the rest of the world. To believe they would then turn it all over to nine unelected government attorneys is taking stupid to a new level.

You only have to look at the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare to understand why our Founders did not give the Supreme Court the authority to interpret our Constitution.

The people of the United States have lost nearly all Constitutional protections, taken for granted for the past 238 years. These protections were removed slowly, one by one, leaving our once-great Nation a “Nation of ignorant sheep.” People forgot true freedom long ago, just like Jefferson predicted they would.

Will our freedoms ever return? Will government officials return to serving the people instead of ruling over them? It is doubtful, but not impossible.

The coming day when citizens of this country are unable to go to the grocery store and fill their carts will be the day we all find out what changes are to take place. I can make the educated guess that none of us will ever live in a true Constitutional republic again.

The fault for this tragedy will lie at the feet of the stupid.

–Curt Chancler
As an informed American and patriot, I have lived ... (show quote)

Thank you very much - Easily understood and this will go Viral

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Feb 8, 2014 12:48:23   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
The problem with our Constitution is that the people must not only know it, but understand it to be able to use it. It has been taking out of our schools and today, most kids know absolutely NOTHING about it. Sure they can spout off about freedom of speech and freedom of religion, but that is just drivel. Yes, I said drivel, because if you really don't know the Constitution, then those sections are meaningless. If you don't understand how this government is supposed to work, then how can you say we have ANY freedoms. They take the word of this government at face value, because they don't know the government has no say as to what the Constitution means. They think that the SCOTUS is the final answer to all questions regarding the Constitution. They don't have any idea of how the SCOTUS has twisted words and phrases in the Constitution to come up with answers that are ask of this court. In truth, the court is no better then the rest of our government in that it is totally out of control.

Any time you let the government tell you what something is, you are in trouble. Let a bunch of power hungry liars tell you anything is asking for trouble. Half this country is still wondering why Clinton stayed in office after he was impeached, because they do not know how the system works. That Clinton got off doesn't seem to bother the other half as they don't seem to care about much of anything. Very few people actually know why he stayed in office. Even fewer knew his trial was a complete farce. Obama is still in office for the same reason. This government is so corrupt that the people have no say in anything any longer, they just think they do. The only time these people even act like they care is when they are up for re-election and then they lie through their teeth. It seems that most people only care about the money this government uses to buy their votes, nothing else.

You ask why the military is not taking matters into their own hands and taking this country back. Well, I hate to say this, but a lot of the military are the problem. They are to afraid of doing ANYTHING. They will not stand up for the Constitution because they don't know it much better then most Americans do. Ask yourself this. Why are American military people joining Obama's army and working to destroy this country? Why are our own police agencies working to bring this country down? Why are government agencies working to help bring this country down? These are the people that we trust to keep this country safe. Everyone in the military swears an oath to defend and protect the Constitution from enemies from within and without. If this government is an enemy of the people, they why are they not protecting us from the government?

I think there is two reason they do not protect us from this government. One is, they do not know our Constitution and have no idea what it really says and even some of them that have read it do not understand it. Two, they do not think they have the power to do anything on their own. They think that taking this government back for the people would be Treason, when in fact, it is Treason NOT to. Trying to convince them of this will get you thrown in jail really fast. Trying to overthrow this government will get you killed or thrown in jail really fast and you will never be heard from again. Unless they take over and WIN, they are just committing Treason, because the government controls our courts and can say anything they want and get away with it. Unless and until this country is returned to the Constitution, we are no longer free. It is only going to get worse and we will not be able to tell this is the US very soon. We don't have much longer to act. Either we take this government back and return to the Constitution, or we parish as a nation. If we do, we will never seen liberty again in our lifetimes. If it ever comes back to this country, it will be years before they see freedom again. I hope you are all ready for this, because it is coming sooner then you think.

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Feb 8, 2014 13:36:42   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
Excellent post.EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS
btw i'm locked, loaded and ready as you said everyone else needs to do the same




MrEd wrote:
The problem with our Constitution is that the people must not only know it, but understand it to be able to use it. It has been taking out of our schools and today, most kids know absolutely NOTHING about it. Sure they can spout off about freedom of speech and freedom of religion, but that is just drivel. Yes, I said drivel, because if you really don't know the Constitution, then those sections are meaningless. If you don't understand how this government is supposed to work, then how can you say we have ANY freedoms. They take the word of this government at face value, because they don't know the government has no say as to what the Constitution means. They think that the SCOTUS is the final answer to all questions regarding the Constitution. They don't have any idea of how the SCOTUS has twisted words and phrases in the Constitution to come up with answers that are ask of this court. In truth, the court is no better then the rest of our government in that it is totally out of control.

Any time you let the government tell you what something is, you are in trouble. Let a bunch of power hungry liars tell you anything is asking for trouble. Half this country is still wondering why Clinton stayed in office after he was impeached, because they do not know how the system works. That Clinton got off doesn't seem to bother the other half as they don't seem to care about much of anything. Very few people actually know why he stayed in office. Even fewer knew his trial was a complete farce. Obama is still in office for the same reason. This government is so corrupt that the people have no say in anything any longer, they just think they do. The only time these people even act like they care is when they are up for re-election and then they lie through their teeth. It seems that most people only care about the money this government uses to buy their votes, nothing else.

You ask why the military is not taking matters into their own hands and taking this country back. Well, I hate to say this, but a lot of the military are the problem. They are to afraid of doing ANYTHING. They will not stand up for the Constitution because they don't know it much better then most Americans do. Ask yourself this. Why are American military people joining Obama's army and working to destroy this country? Why are our own police agencies working to bring this country down? Why are government agencies working to help bring this country down? These are the people that we trust to keep this country safe. Everyone in the military swears an oath to defend and protect the Constitution from enemies from within and without. If this government is an enemy of the people, they why are they not protecting us from the government?

I think there is two reason they do not protect us from this government. One is, they do not know our Constitution and have no idea what it really says and even some of them that have read it do not understand it. Two, they do not think they have the power to do anything on their own. They think that taking this government back for the people would be Treason, when in fact, it is Treason NOT to. Trying to convince them of this will get you thrown in jail really fast. Trying to overthrow this government will get you killed or thrown in jail really fast and you will never be heard from again. Unless they take over and WIN, they are just committing Treason, because the government controls our courts and can say anything they want and get away with it. Unless and until this country is returned to the Constitution, we are no longer free. It is only going to get worse and we will not be able to tell this is the US very soon. We don't have much longer to act. Either we take this government back and return to the Constitution, or we parish as a nation. If we do, we will never seen liberty again in our lifetimes. If it ever comes back to this country, it will be years before they see freedom again. I hope you are all ready for this, because it is coming sooner then you think.
The problem with our Constitution is that the peop... (show quote)


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Feb 8, 2014 14:33:37   #
UnionSparky Loc: left coast
 
MrEd wrote:
The problem with our Constitution is that the people must not only know it, but understand it to be able to use it. It has been taking out of our schools and today, most kids know absolutely NOTHING about it. Sure they can spout off about freedom of speech and freedom of religion, but that is just drivel. Yes, I said drivel, because if you really don't know the Constitution, then those sections are meaningless. If you don't understand how this government is supposed to work, then how can you say we have ANY freedoms. They take the word of this government at face value, because they don't know the government has no say as to what the Constitution means. They think that the SCOTUS is the final answer to all questions regarding the Constitution. They don't have any idea of how the SCOTUS has twisted words and phrases in the Constitution to come up with answers that are ask of this court. In truth, the court is no better then the rest of our government in that it is totally out of control.

Any time you let the government tell you what something is, you are in trouble. Let a bunch of power hungry liars tell you anything is asking for trouble. Half this country is still wondering why Clinton stayed in office after he was impeached, because they do not know how the system works. That Clinton got off doesn't seem to bother the other half as they don't seem to care about much of anything. Very few people actually know why he stayed in office. Even fewer knew his trial was a complete farce. Obama is still in office for the same reason. This government is so corrupt that the people have no say in anything any longer, they just think they do. The only time these people even act like they care is when they are up for re-election and then they lie through their teeth. It seems that most people only care about the money this government uses to buy their votes, nothing else.

You ask why the military is not taking matters into their own hands and taking this country back. Well, I hate to say this, but a lot of the military are the problem. They are to afraid of doing ANYTHING. They will not stand up for the Constitution because they don't know it much better then most Americans do. Ask yourself this. Why are American military people joining Obama's army and working to destroy this country? Why are our own police agencies working to bring this country down? Why are government agencies working to help bring this country down? These are the people that we trust to keep this country safe. Everyone in the military swears an oath to defend and protect the Constitution from enemies from within and without. If this government is an enemy of the people, they why are they not protecting us from the government?

I think there is two reason they do not protect us from this government. One is, they do not know our Constitution and have no idea what it really says and even some of them that have read it do not understand it. Two, they do not think they have the power to do anything on their own. They think that taking this government back for the people would be Treason, when in fact, it is Treason NOT to. Trying to convince them of this will get you thrown in jail really fast. Trying to overthrow this government will get you killed or thrown in jail really fast and you will never be heard from again. Unless they take over and WIN, they are just committing Treason, because the government controls our courts and can say anything they want and get away with it. Unless and until this country is returned to the Constitution, we are no longer free. It is only going to get worse and we will not be able to tell this is the US very soon. We don't have much longer to act. Either we take this government back and return to the Constitution, or we parish as a nation. If we do, we will never seen liberty again in our lifetimes. If it ever comes back to this country, it will be years before they see freedom again. I hope you are all ready for this, because it is coming sooner then you think.
The problem with our Constitution is that the peop... (show quote)

In all their brilliance and foresight, how could they have known what they thought would be the "watchdog" of the government, would become the "guard dog"?
Namely the mainstream media or press.

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Feb 9, 2014 00:26:54   #
kegler299 Loc: Aurora, Il.
 
Overall an excellent piece of observance. May God help us find our way back.

beammeupscotty wrote:
Should be required reading for every American voter




quote=Nuclearian]As an informed American and patriot, I have lived long enough to recognize and identify the ignored liberties and rights of the American people by our government. Our Founding Fathers were students of common sense and history. They knew from the study of past civilizations the inherent nature of man. That inherent nature has shown that when men have unregulated power and authority over other men, they will always abuse that power.

The genius of our founders was that they identified the root cause of the failure and extinction of past governments. They developed a formula to prevent those failures in the future.

To prevent history from repeating its self, a Constitutional Republic was born. America is a Constitutional republic by design and Constitutional guarantee as stated in Article IV Section 4: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.”

A Constitutional republic guarantees officials are democratically elected as representatives of the people and that they must govern according to existing Constitutional law. These laws limit government’s power over the people.

The creation of our Constitutional republic was not a fluke. Our Founding Fathers knew that a pure democracy was akin to the monarchy from which the people had fought and died to free themselves.

Our Founders believed that democracy in its pure form is a government system of mob rule where 51 percent of the population will dictate the fate and the rights of the other 49 percent.

Knowing this, our Founders chose a democratic representative system of government also known as a “republican form,” a system of government that governs the people by Constitutional law and not the tyranny of mob rule that many forms of democracy offered. Australia and the United Kingdom have a democratic system of government that allows the citizens to elect officials to represent them but not necessarily represent their wishes.

In the United States the people elect their representatives, who must abide by Constitutional law and the limitations it places on governments control over the people.

All governments — Federal, State, county and city — are created by the authority of the American people. As such, they belong to the people and are to be obedient slaves not only to every word in the Constitution, but the intent and spirit of its creators.

Let’s be very clear on this point: As a Constitutional republic, no government or its representatives at any level can create a law or rule that exceeds the authority given to that branch of government by the Constitution.

Equally important, the same Constitutional standards apply when laws or rules are created that may restrict, impede or deny any citizen the rights Constitutionally guaranteed by our Bill of Rights.

For the first time in history, a blueprint for freedom was created in the form of a Constitution. As recipients of these protected freedoms, all we the people had to do was to be vigilant and actively participate in the republican process.

This would insure the safety of these freedoms, for all future generations to come.

In 1787, our Founding Fathers gave us the greatest gift mortal man could give their fellow man, the gift of freedom guaranteed by a written Constitution and a Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson observed that the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. I believe a great example of that would be the Supreme Court’s claiming an authority and power to interpret the people’s Constitution.

In 1803, just 16 years after the creation of our Constitution, the Supreme Court, in my opinion, used the court case Marbury vs. Madison as an instrument to claim the Constitutional authority to interpret our Constitution.

I believe it is important to note: Nowhere in our constitution is the Supreme Court given authority to interpret our Constitution.

In fact, it was no accident these powers were not put in the hands of nine unelected attorneys who would make up the Supreme Court. The major reason was the people’s justified contempt, mistrust and hatred of attorneys, judges and politicians.

History shows clearly the people of America did not ask our Founders to protect us from government’s attorneys, judges and politicians. Instead they demanded protection through our Constitution’s Bill of Rights and the Constitutional protections of a trial by jury.

There is a reason our Founding Fathers did not clearly announce the authority of our Supreme Court to interpret our Constitution in Article III of our Constitution.

Common sense dictates that he who controls the interpretation of America’s Constitution controls the law of the land and, therefore, controls the United States and its people.

Our Founders and the framers of our Constitution were extraordinary men. These men had a vision for the future of this place called America and its people.

Just as important was their knowledge of history and the failures and success of past societies and their governments.

These men were driven in their quest to prevent anything like the king and his Star Chamber courts from ever existing in America. Thus, their mistrust and outright hatred of judges, attorneys and government officials was known far and wide.

They also shared Montesquieu’s theory of the three branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. They knew and understood that anyone given the duties of one of these offices shall not perform the duties of the other.

They realized when any one person or group of people possessed all three powers freedom would be lost and tyranny would reign supreme.

These extraordinary men, armed with the above knowledge and experience, fought for more than 10 years to create a Constitution and a country that was the envy of the rest of the world. To believe they would then turn it all over to nine unelected government attorneys is taking stupid to a new level.

You only have to look at the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare to understand why our Founders did not give the Supreme Court the authority to interpret our Constitution.

The people of the United States have lost nearly all Constitutional protections, taken for granted for the past 238 years. These protections were removed slowly, one by one, leaving our once-great Nation a “Nation of ignorant sheep.” People forgot true freedom long ago, just like Jefferson predicted they would.

Will our freedoms ever return? Will government officials return to serving the people instead of ruling over them? It is doubtful, but not impossible.

The coming day when citizens of this country are unable to go to the grocery store and fill their carts will be the day we all find out what changes are to take place. I can make the educated guess that none of us will ever live in a true Constitutional republic again.

The fault for this tragedy will lie at the feet of the stupid.

–Curt Chancler
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Feb 9, 2014 00:40:21   #
rumitoid
 
The Constitution lacks both positive and purposeful instruction as to "the least of these." If the grand (hypocritical) statements of the Declaration of Independence were a total lie as to that age America and who is free, for at least a century to come, why trust anything else America has to offer?

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Feb 9, 2014 00:44:31   #
Weyner
 
MrEd wrote:
The problem with our Constitution is that the people must not only know it, but understand it to be able to use it. It has been taking out of our schools and today, most kids know absolutely NOTHING about it. Sure they can spout off about freedom of speech and freedom of religion, but that is just drivel. Yes, I said drivel, because if you really don't know the Constitution, then those sections are meaningless. If you don't understand how this government is supposed to work, then how can you say we have ANY freedoms. They take the word of this government at face value, because they don't know the government has no say as to what the Constitution means. They think that the SCOTUS is the final answer to all questions regarding the Constitution. They don't have any idea of how the SCOTUS has twisted words and phrases in the Constitution to come up with answers that are ask of this court. In truth, the court is no better then the rest of our government in that it is totally out of control.

Any time you let the government tell you what something is, you are in trouble. Let a bunch of power hungry liars tell you anything is asking for trouble. Half this country is still wondering why Clinton stayed in office after he was impeached, because they do not know how the system works. That Clinton got off doesn't seem to bother the other half as they don't seem to care about much of anything. Very few people actually know why he stayed in office. Even fewer knew his trial was a complete farce. Obama is still in office for the same reason. This government is so corrupt that the people have no say in anything any longer, they just think they do. The only time these people even act like they care is when they are up for re-election and then they lie through their teeth. It seems that most people only care about the money this government uses to buy their votes, nothing else.

You ask why the military is not taking matters into their own hands and taking this country back. Well, I hate to say this, but a lot of the military are the problem. They are to afraid of doing ANYTHING. They will not stand up for the Constitution because they don't know it much better then most Americans do. Ask yourself this. Why are American military people joining Obama's army and working to destroy this country? Why are our own police agencies working to bring this country down? Why are government agencies working to help bring this country down? These are the people that we trust to keep this country safe. Everyone in the military swears an oath to defend and protect the Constitution from enemies from within and without. If this government is an enemy of the people, they why are they not protecting us from the government?

I think there is two reason they do not protect us from this government. One is, they do not know our Constitution and have no idea what it really says and even some of them that have read it do not understand it. Two, they do not think they have the power to do anything on their own. They think that taking this government back for the people would be Treason, when in fact, it is Treason NOT to. Trying to convince them of this will get you thrown in jail really fast. Trying to overthrow this government will get you killed or thrown in jail really fast and you will never be heard from again. Unless they take over and WIN, they are just committing Treason, because the government controls our courts and can say anything they want and get away with it. Unless and until this country is returned to the Constitution, we are no longer free. It is only going to get worse and we will not be able to tell this is the US very soon. We don't have much longer to act. Either we take this government back and return to the Constitution, or we parish as a nation. If we do, we will never seen liberty again in our lifetimes. If it ever comes back to this country, it will be years before they see freedom again. I hope you are all ready for this, because it is coming sooner then you think.
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Feb 9, 2014 01:18:22   #
kegler299 Loc: Aurora, Il.
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Constitution lacks both positive and purposeful instruction as to "the least of these." If the grand (hypocritical) statements of the Declaration of Independence were a total lie as to that age America and who is free, for at least a century to come, why trust anything else America has to offer?


Can you please clarify? Your thoughts appear to be incomplete to me. Sorry.

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Feb 9, 2014 01:47:45   #
rumitoid
 
kegler299 wrote:
Can you please clarify? Your thoughts appear to be incomplete to me. Sorry.


The bottom line for Christians is how they treat the least. End of story. This is not merely first and foremost, it is only. Revelation, and elsewhere, says salvation is based on how we care for the least of these. Not optional or a disputable matter. Care for the least if these...or be damned.

How? "Turn, and become as little children." Or raise to be CEO of some blue stock company. Very close in feeling. One lasts forever and the other doesn't.

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Feb 9, 2014 02:06:13   #
kegler299 Loc: Aurora, Il.
 
kegler299 wrote:
Can you please clarify? Your thoughts appear to be incomplete to me. Sorry.

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Feb 9, 2014 02:07:46   #
kegler299 Loc: Aurora, Il.
 
rumitoid wrote:
The bottom line for Christians is how they treat the least. End of story. This is not merely first and foremost, it is only. Revelation, and elsewhere, says salvation is based on how we care for the least of these. Not optional or a disputable matter. Care for the least if these...or be damned.

How? "Turn, and become as little children." Or raise to be CEO of some blue stock company. Very close in feeling. One lasts forever and the other doesn't.


Clarity still escapes me. 'Least of these' is a religious tenant not a political one. That is between you and your maker according to your belief system. The constitution was written by men for men. Most of them believed in God and wished for his blessings on this country. But they did not write a new book for the bible. They wrote rules they hoped would keep our country in His grace and serve His flock here in America. That's my point of view. Thanks

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