Putin is Right; America is Wrong (Page 7): Where do you get your "facts", salty? But for that matter, where does Senator Angus King get his?

KiraSeer2016

Where do you get your "facts", salty?

But for that matter, where does Senator Angus King get his?

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

CarolSeer, If Putin isn't concerned about building an empire, why did Russia invade three of it's neighboring and former Soviet Republics? I don't remember Putin giving back those parts of Georgia, and especially Ukraine. Why are the Baltic states scared of Russian interference in their country? Why has the Russian government tried to interfere in the free elections of several western countries like Germany and France? Why are critical Russian journalists being murdered in Russia? In short, why is Russia creating problems for the West?

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

As usual. Dead wrong.

Here is a (feminist) article I found this a.m.:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-clueless-russia-ukraine-invasion-article-1.2733394

And here is Trump's first statement: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/index.html

How many years have I been telling you, America, that Ukraine's problems started with Ovomit emulating Carter and Brzezinski when they drew the Soviets into Afghanistan. (And I didn't make that up; Z-Big said it himself in an interview with a Paris magazine in the 1990's; Brzezinski hates Russia). Ovomit engineered the Euromaidan protests in November 2013 because he wanted the world to fear an aggressive (capitalist) Russia, not a collective, Communist Soviet Union. I know that, because he said so just prior to those protests. Later, in early 2014, Yanukovich, the only man who could have held the Ukraine together, was deposed. Putin acted on behalf of the people of the Donbas, who have nothing but the coal fields Poroshenko wants to get himself out of the jam he was put in when he borrowed all that money, and thus ruined the Ukrainian economy. Poroshenko is not to be trusted.

If Putin wanted to re-establish an empire, he could have gone into Georgia when that little power-hungry man, Saakashvili, invaded Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Instead, he acted on behalf of the people of those regions and for their protection. Putin, again, was right. The type of protectorate he established in those regions can be used as a template for other troubled regions of the world. (Remember, I was there.)

So help me God, Donald, if you try to walk your statements back just in order to please the American "mob", you will no longer be my choice for president.

You are running out of bargaining chips, America. Back off. The more, and longer, you try to hold onto an outdated view of your own superiority, the harder will be your fall.

Putin is a good man; Russia is a good country. Maybe the American public find that hard to chew.

The Crimean people voted to become part of Russia, a great country. This was real and legitimate. What have I told you about "buyers' remorse"?

Putin well knew, when he told the world at the time Kosovo gained its independence, that this would set a precedent for some of the remaining republics and autonomous regions of the former Soviet Union. It is why he believed the collapse of the Soviet Union was one of the worst events of the 20th century. And look at the Balkans. He was right.

Putin is not interested in building an empire; he is interested in establishing stability. It is America who is the whore of the world.

As usual. Dead wrong. br br Here is a (feminist)... (show quote)

KiraSeer2016

saltwind 78 wrote:

CarolSeer, If Putin isn't concerned about building... (show quote)

It's KiraSeer.

Saltwind, you have read my previous posts. You know Russia did not invade any of those countries, and you know what has happened globally since the fall of the Soviet Union. In fact, you know who provoked Euromaiden and the Color Revolutions.

Like all other pseudo-intellectuals, and I put Timothy Snyder in that category, you were educated, that is indoctrinated, in a university run by the "Left in America"---LIA. You were taught to believe that it has been the Russian nation that has been the aggressor throughout history, not Communist ideology. In other words, you have been indoctrinated by Communists.

Someone once said, "Ridicule checks the absurd; but smothers the noble." Marxism/Communism is an idiotology worthy of ridicule. There is absolutely no reason, no logic and no respect for human nature in that malignancy.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

saltwind 78 wrote:

CarolSeer, If Putin isn't concerned about building... (show quote)

What hypocrisy, salty.

I have answered fully much of what you are asking. It comes down to Russian nationals not wanting rebel regimes taking over their new found freedom which Russia now has. They want the new Russian stability. They want the Russia not influenced or interfered with by US stupidity.

To be a US national implying the evil of interfering with other govs, as if they themselves are not the most guilty of it, is the height of hypocrisy!

You have been brainwashed into subjective ignorant hysteria.

KiraSeer2016

nwtk2007 wrote:

What hypocrisy, salty. br br I have answered full... (show quote)

Thanks. Didn't know you were online. Did you see my new topic: "What The Left Needs To Know": http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-105511-1.html#2028775

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

KiraSeer2016 wrote:

Thanks. Didn't know you were online. Did you see my new topic: "What The Left Needs To Know": http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-105511-1.html#2028775

I did. Still digesting the content. It's on my screen as we "speak."

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I didn't know Kira and Putin were having it off.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

CarolSeer, How has invading three former Soviet republics and seizing their territory in spite of solemn treaties, promoting stability? How does interfering in the elections of western countries promote stability? How does supporting terrible dictators and murderers like Assad of Syria promote stability? How does opposing the vital interests of the United States around the world promote stability. I stand by every thing I have written about Putin. I don't understand your refutation!

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

As usual. Dead wrong.

Here is a (feminist) article I found this a.m.:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-clueless-russia-ukraine-invasion-article-1.2733394

And here is Trump's first statement: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/index.html

How many years have I been telling you, America, that Ukraine's problems started with Ovomit emulating Carter and Brzezinski when they drew the Soviets into Afghanistan. (And I didn't make that up; Z-Big said it himself in an interview with a Paris magazine in the 1990's; Brzezinski hates Russia). Ovomit engineered the Euromaidan protests in November 2013 because he wanted the world to fear an aggressive (capitalist) Russia, not a collective, Communist Soviet Union. I know that, because he said so just prior to those protests. Later, in early 2014, Yanukovich, the only man who could have held the Ukraine together, was deposed. Putin acted on behalf of the people of the Donbas, who have nothing but the coal fields Poroshenko wants to get himself out of the jam he was put in when he borrowed all that money, and thus ruined the Ukrainian economy. Poroshenko is not to be trusted.

If Putin wanted to re-establish an empire, he could have gone into Georgia when that little power-hungry man, Saakashvili, invaded Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Instead, he acted on behalf of the people of those regions and for their protection. Putin, again, was right. The type of protectorate he established in those regions can be used as a template for other troubled regions of the world. (Remember, I was there.)

So help me God, Donald, if you try to walk your statements back just in order to please the American "mob", you will no longer be my choice for president.

You are running out of bargaining chips, America. Back off. The more, and longer, you try to hold onto an outdated view of your own superiority, the harder will be your fall.

Putin is a good man; Russia is a good country. Maybe the American public find that hard to chew.

The Crimean people voted to become part of Russia, a great country. This was real and legitimate. What have I told you about "buyers' remorse"?

Putin well knew, when he told the world at the time Kosovo gained its independence, that this would set a precedent for some of the remaining republics and autonomous regions of the former Soviet Union. It is why he believed the collapse of the Soviet Union was one of the worst events of the 20th century. And look at the Balkans. He was right.

Putin is not interested in building an empire; he is interested in establishing stability. It is America who is the whore of the world.

As usual. Dead wrong. br br Here is a (feminist)... (show quote)

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Ah Har !! so it was you was it, well we all have different opinions don't we, Genesis 11. Obviously the Lord confused their language so we wouldn't all be the same, but Muslims don't recognise that there is two Trees the Tree of Life and the Tree of Wisdom, so don't blame anyone except your wife because Kira is smarter than you.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

CarolSeer, I never said that America its always right. I protested the Vietnam War, after I was discharged from the navy. I protested segregation as a boy, I protested the Bush administration and the war in Iraq. I am at least as hard on my own country as I am on others. I sincerely believe that Trump is a terrible president. Having said all this, the United States with all it's mistakes and problems is a true democracy. Here, the people rule, not some autocratic dictator like Putin. In this country we have both the rule of law and constitutional guarantees that justice will be done and liberty protected. Unfortunately, Russia has never had a democratic form of government. The divine right of kings was the constitution of czarist Russia. That era was followed by the authoritarian rule of Communism, which resulted in the brutal dictatorship of Stalin and his henchmen. Communism was followed by a corrupt form of government which was replaced by Putin, a man that stole billions of dollars in treasure from the Russian people and who maintains control of the state through undemocratic means.
This is the sad history of a great country that deserves better for their people.

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

Did you forget who I am, Salt? br br One thing I ... (show quote)

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

As an overall context just let me say, that it's the complexity of notion that is so discerning and charming, mostly because if I didn't know that the absolute complexity within every woman's mind was the apple (P)Adam devoured I would never have been privliged to know that the deepening of understanding was the only way complexity could be extended, fortunately I am a Muslim who only believes in one Immortal Tree so there is no First Sin, Sura 14, Yusuf Ali translation v. 24 - " It brings forth it's fruit at all times, by the leave of its Lord. So Allah sets forth parables for men, in order that they may receive admonition."
And this is Rodwell translation same verse and previous verse 29 & 30. - "Seest thou not what God liketh a good word ? To a good tree; its roots are firmly fixed, and it's branched in the Heaven:
Yielding it's fruit in all seasons by the will of its Lord. God setteth forth these similtudes to men that haply they may reflect.".
Rodwell's translation was the first and published 1861, language and attitudes were very different from Yusuf Ali's published over one hundred and twenty years later.

emarine

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

As usual. Dead wrong.

Here is a (feminist) article I found this a.m.:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-clueless-russia-ukraine-invasion-article-1.2733394

And here is Trump's first statement: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/index.html

How many years have I been telling you, America, that Ukraine's problems started with Ovomit emulating Carter and Brzezinski when they drew the Soviets into Afghanistan. (And I didn't make that up; Z-Big said it himself in an interview with a Paris magazine in the 1990's; Brzezinski hates Russia). Ovomit engineered the Euromaidan protests in November 2013 because he wanted the world to fear an aggressive (capitalist) Russia, not a collective, Communist Soviet Union. I know that, because he said so just prior to those protests. Later, in early 2014, Yanukovich, the only man who could have held the Ukraine together, was deposed. Putin acted on behalf of the people of the Donbas, who have nothing but the coal fields Poroshenko wants to get himself out of the jam he was put in when he borrowed all that money, and thus ruined the Ukrainian economy. Poroshenko is not to be trusted.

If Putin wanted to re-establish an empire, he could have gone into Georgia when that little power-hungry man, Saakashvili, invaded Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Instead, he acted on behalf of the people of those regions and for their protection. Putin, again, was right. The type of protectorate he established in those regions can be used as a template for other troubled regions of the world. (Remember, I was there.)

So help me God, Donald, if you try to walk your statements back just in order to please the American "mob", you will no longer be my choice for president.

You are running out of bargaining chips, America. Back off. The more, and longer, you try to hold onto an outdated view of your own superiority, the harder will be your fall.

Putin is a good man; Russia is a good country. Maybe the American public find that hard to chew.

The Crimean people voted to become part of Russia, a great country. This was real and legitimate. What have I told you about "buyers' remorse"?

Putin well knew, when he told the world at the time Kosovo gained its independence, that this would set a precedent for some of the remaining republics and autonomous regions of the former Soviet Union. It is why he believed the collapse of the Soviet Union was one of the worst events of the 20th century. And look at the Balkans. He was right.

Putin is not interested in building an empire; he is interested in establishing stability. It is America who is the whore of the world.

As usual. Dead wrong. br br Here is a (feminist)... (show quote)

Putin's job is to lookout for Putin & the people of Russia... he has as many skeletons in his closet as anyone in power, maybe more... If you like him so much than why are you here?...

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

okie, The Khazars were a Turkic people, many of which were said to have converted to Judaism in the middle ages. They were conquered by Russia, and disappeared from history. Some people believe that Ashkenazi( Eastern European) Jews are descended from them. This is not true. There is no evidence of this. Ashkenazi Jews have no Turkic genes. There are no Turkic words in the Yiddish language. There is no evidence that the Khazar people all converted, only their leaders.The Rothchildes are indeed an exception to the vast majority of Eastern European Jews that lived in extreme poverty and religious persecution in the Russian empire. This myth is popular with anti- Semites that believe that since the Ashkenazis are really Turkic, they have no right to what is now the nation of Israel since they are not a Semitic people, and did not originate in the middle east. I do not know a great deal about the Rothchildes, but they certainly don't run America. There are many, many banking interests and industrialists like the Kochs that much more involved in American politics.
The 9/11 attack was committed by jihadist Saudis, and other extremest Muslim Arabs. Jews have not committed suicide en mass since the Roman conquest of the Judean revolt around 70AD.

okie don wrote:

Just keep in mind who runs America.
Rothschilds ( Khazars- fiat currency) & Rockefellers ( oil)
and who did 9-11(:

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Carol, I would believe you if you told me who you were. I don't see how that would make me change my mind about President Putin. I wish he was a great leader dedicated to the welfare of his people and peace. I just don't see it, and nothing you have written about him has changed my view of him.

CarolSeer2016 wrote:

I could tell you more about me, or about me and Vlad, but you really wouldn't want to believe that either. But heads of state around the world know it, and know who I am.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I actually put most of my money under the bed as I was instructed to do so, by Malcolm Frazer 1983, I would never have believed that Sue my wife would ever sweep under there, as I hadn't noticed her ever sweeping anywhere else, but anyhow I lost the lot when Robert Lee Halk came to power, I reported it to the coppers and they dug up a connection to a Trotskyist named Kevin Rudd who had just joined the Party recently, 1981, it wasn't long after that the wife started running away, I blame Frazer for everything Rud is a mug but at least he learnt how to speak Chinese from the wife I think as I often heard a lot of strange sounds coming from under the bed.