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Aug 1, 2016 13:14:33   #
CarolSeer2016
 
As usual. Dead wrong.

Here is a (feminist) article I found this a.m.:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-clueless-russia-ukraine-invasion-article-1.2733394

And here is Trump's first statement: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/index.html

How many years have I been telling you, America, that Ukraine's problems started with Ovomit emulating Carter and Brzezinski when they drew the Soviets into Afghanistan. (And I didn't make that up; Z-Big said it himself in an interview with a Paris magazine in the 1990's; Brzezinski h**es Russia). Ovomit engineered the Euromaidan protests in November 2013 because he wanted the world to fear an aggressive (capitalist) Russia, not a collective, C*******t Soviet Union. I know that, because he said so just prior to those protests. Later, in early 2014, Yanukovich, the only man who could have held the Ukraine together, was deposed. Putin acted on behalf of the people of the Donbas, who have nothing but the coal fields Poroshenko wants to get himself out of the jam he was put in when he borrowed all that money, and thus ruined the Ukrainian economy. Poroshenko is not to be trusted.

If Putin wanted to re-establish an empire, he could have gone into Georgia when that little power-hungry man, Saakashvili, invaded Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Instead, he acted on behalf of the people of those regions and for their protection. Putin, again, was right. The type of protectorate he established in those regions can be used as a template for other troubled regions of the world. (Remember, I was there.)

So help me God, Donald, if you try to walk your statements back just in order to please the American "mob", you will no longer be my choice for president.

You are running out of bargaining chips, America. Back off. The more, and longer, you try to hold onto an outdated view of your own superiority, the harder will be your fall.

Putin is a good man; Russia is a good country. Maybe the American public find that hard to chew.

The Crimean people v**ed to become part of Russia, a great country. This was real and legitimate. What have I told you about "buyers' remorse"?

Putin well knew, when he told the world at the time Kosovo gained its independence, that this would set a precedent for some of the remaining republics and autonomous regions of the former Soviet Union. It is why he believed the collapse of the Soviet Union was one of the worst events of the 20th century. And look at the Balkans. He was right.

Putin is not interested in building an empire; he is interested in establishing stability. It is America who is the whore of the world.

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Aug 1, 2016 13:15:03   #
CarolSeer2016
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN6jIvKiYOs

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Aug 1, 2016 14:24:15   #
CarolSeer2016
 
No comments?

Are you devoid of "opinion", people of America?

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Aug 1, 2016 14:57:05   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem with reality. Putin, in everything I have read about, and know about is a thug. He has used armed force against several former USSR republics. He put legitimate businessmen in prison and grabbed their assets, He has allied himself with some of the worst, and most abusive dictatorships in the world. He challenges the US every chance he gets, and for no reason I can think of. Please inform us about what a great, democratic leader Putin is. I will try to understand you.The latest, Ukraine , is merely the latest and most threatening to Western Europe and the former unwilling members of the USSR.
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
As usual. Dead wrong.

Here is a (feminist) article I found this a.m.:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-clueless-russia-ukraine-invasion-article-1.2733394

And here is Trump's first statement: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/index.html

How many years have I been telling you, America, that Ukraine's problems started with Ovomit emulating Carter and Brzezinski when they drew the Soviets into Afghanistan. (And I didn't make that up; Z-Big said it himself in an interview with a Paris magazine in the 1990's; Brzezinski h**es Russia). Ovomit engineered the Euromaidan protests in November 2013 because he wanted the world to fear an aggressive (capitalist) Russia, not a collective, C*******t Soviet Union. I know that, because he said so just prior to those protests. Later, in early 2014, Yanukovich, the only man who could have held the Ukraine together, was deposed. Putin acted on behalf of the people of the Donbas, who have nothing but the coal fields Poroshenko wants to get himself out of the jam he was put in when he borrowed all that money, and thus ruined the Ukrainian economy. Poroshenko is not to be trusted.

If Putin wanted to re-establish an empire, he could have gone into Georgia when that little power-hungry man, Saakashvili, invaded Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Instead, he acted on behalf of the people of those regions and for their protection. Putin, again, was right. The type of protectorate he established in those regions can be used as a template for other troubled regions of the world. (Remember, I was there.)

So help me God, Donald, if you try to walk your statements back just in order to please the American "mob", you will no longer be my choice for president.

You are running out of bargaining chips, America. Back off. The more, and longer, you try to hold onto an outdated view of your own superiority, the harder will be your fall.

Putin is a good man; Russia is a good country. Maybe the American public find that hard to chew.

The Crimean people v**ed to become part of Russia, a great country. This was real and legitimate. What have I told you about "buyers' remorse"?

Putin well knew, when he told the world at the time Kosovo gained its independence, that this would set a precedent for some of the remaining republics and autonomous regions of the former Soviet Union. It is why he believed the collapse of the Soviet Union was one of the worst events of the 20th century. And look at the Balkans. He was right.

Putin is not interested in building an empire; he is interested in establishing stability. It is America who is the whore of the world.
As usual. Dead wrong. br br Here is a (feminist)... (show quote)

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Aug 1, 2016 15:05:10   #
CarolSeer2016
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem with reality. Putin, in everything I have read about, and know about is a thug. He has used armed force against several former USSR republics. He put legitimate businessmen in prison and grabbed their assets, He has allied himself with some of the worst, and most abusive dictatorships in the world. He challenges the US every chance he gets, and for no reason I can think of. Please inform us about what a great, democratic leader Putin is. I will try to understand you.The latest, Ukraine , is merely the latest and most threatening to Western Europe and the former unwilling members of the USSR.
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem wit... (show quote)


Did you forget who I am, Salt?

One thing I am, is that, like Paul Atreides, I know when someone means what they say.

Hard for an American to realize or even recognize that there could be a country even better (now) than they are. Your mind is closed to that reality. Your reality is America, my country right or wrong. Well, America is very very wrong. The Marching Morons elected morons to lead them, and now that's where America is.

I am infuriated with America, and with Americans like yourself, who believe that America is always right, and every other country is wrong. Wanna see World War III? Just keep those beliefs in your head.

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Aug 1, 2016 15:06:51   #
CarolSeer2016
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem with reality. Putin, in everything I have read about, and know about is a thug. He has used armed force against several former USSR republics. He put legitimate businessmen in prison and grabbed their assets, He has allied himself with some of the worst, and most abusive dictatorships in the world. He challenges the US every chance he gets, and for no reason I can think of. Please inform us about what a great, democratic leader Putin is. I will try to understand you.The latest, Ukraine , is merely the latest and most threatening to Western Europe and the former unwilling members of the USSR.
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem wit... (show quote)


I could tell you more about me, or about me and Vlad, but you really wouldn't want to believe that either. But heads of state around the world know it, and know who I am.

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Aug 1, 2016 15:08:29   #
CarolSeer2016
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem with reality. Putin, in everything I have read about, and know about is a thug. He has used armed force against several former USSR republics. He put legitimate businessmen in prison and grabbed their assets, He has allied himself with some of the worst, and most abusive dictatorships in the world. He challenges the US every chance he gets, and for no reason I can think of. Please inform us about what a great, democratic leader Putin is. I will try to understand you.The latest, Ukraine , is merely the latest and most threatening to Western Europe and the former unwilling members of the USSR.
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem wit... (show quote)


But you might believe this: I was in Abkhazia at the time; you were not.

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Aug 1, 2016 15:10:14   #
CarolSeer2016
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem with reality. Putin, in everything I have read about, and know about is a thug. He has used armed force against several former USSR republics. He put legitimate businessmen in prison and grabbed their assets, He has allied himself with some of the worst, and most abusive dictatorships in the world. He challenges the US every chance he gets, and for no reason I can think of. Please inform us about what a great, democratic leader Putin is. I will try to understand you.The latest, Ukraine , is merely the latest and most threatening to Western Europe and the former unwilling members of the USSR.
Carol, I believe that you have a small problem wit... (show quote)


I just did inform you about Putin. About what a great leader he is. He represents a great country.

I don't think I need to inform you about what an evil leader Ovomit is. This is the leader that represents America? What does that tell you about the American people?

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Aug 1, 2016 15:39:49   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Carol, I taught American history, I think I have a very good idea what the US has done that I am not proud of, but
We have not invaded a country in this hemisphere since the War of 1814. That is you don't count the countries in Latin America whose leadership was anything but democratic, and under the guise of American policy known as the Monroe Doctrine. There are a few others. With all that said, I can name a lot more negative history about the Soviet Leaders, especially Stalin. The fact still remains that the US is a super power and nations of the world look to us for protection. The facts also say that Putin can not be taken at his word, just ask the people of the Ukraine, and he is a dictator. There is no reason to adapt a more friendlypolicy towards Russia until he changes the behavior of Russian aggressive force! Until then, I would ask the Trump supporters to think at who they are v****g for, and the positions he has proclaimed in his proposed foreign policy.
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Did you forget who I am, Salt?

One thing I am, is that, like Paul Atreides, I know when someone means what they say.

Hard for an American to realize or even recognize that there could be a country even better (now) than they are. Your mind is closed to that reality. Your reality is America, my country right or wrong. Well, America is very very wrong. The Marching Morons elected morons to lead them, and now that's where America is.

I am infuriated with America, and with Americans like yourself, who believe that America is always right, and every other country is wrong. Wanna see World War III? Just keep those beliefs in your head.
Did you forget who I am, Salt? br br One thing I ... (show quote)

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Aug 1, 2016 15:45:03   #
CarolSeer2016
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, I taught American history, I think I have a very good idea what the OS has done things I am not proud of, but
We have not invaded a country in this hemisphere since the War of 1814. That is you don't count the countries in Latin America whose leadership was anything but democratic, and under the guise of American policy known as the Monroe Doctrine. There are a few others. With all that said, I can name a lot more negative history about the Soviet Leaders, especially Stalin. The fact still remains that the US is a super power and nations of the world look to us for protection. The facts also say that Putin can not be taken at his word, just ask the people of the Ukraine. There is no reason to adapt a more friendly behavior towards Russia until he changes the behavior of Russian aggressive force!
Carol, I taught American history, I think I have a... (show quote)


Who did you teach it to, and when?

I am talking about America in the present. I know American history, probably better than you, SW.

The nations of the world are no longer looking to the US for protection. Where have you been for the last few years?

I'm done talking to you. You seem not to want to know what's happening in the world. I suggest, if you want to improve your mind, read the topics I've created. I find that your mind is too little to absorb the great events now going on in the world. Like most Americans.

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Aug 2, 2016 05:37:05   #
Cool Breeze
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Did you forget who I am, Salt?

One thing I am, is that, like Paul Atreides, I know when someone means what they say.

Hard for an American to realize or even recognize that there could be a country even better (now) than they are. Your mind is closed to that reality. Your reality is America, my country right or wrong. Well, America is very very wrong. The Marching Morons elected morons to lead them, and now that's where America is.

I am infuriated with America, and with Americans like yourself, who believe that America is always right, and every other country is wrong. Wanna see World War III? Just keep those beliefs in your head.
Did you forget who I am, Salt? br br One thing I ... (show quote)


You need to lay off the spice!

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Aug 2, 2016 06:24:30   #
okie don
 
Just keep in mind who runs America.
Rothschilds ( Khazars- fiat currency) & Rockefellers ( oil)
and who did 9-11(:

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Aug 2, 2016 12:48:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
You need to lay off the spice!


The spice extends life. The spice extends consciousness.

The spice is the THINKING of man. America needs to get over it's anti-Russia paranoia. Thinks change; Russia for the better and the US for the worse.

Take away many US actions and there are thousands less who have died and a much more stable world. We cannot undo what we have done. Mistake after mistake after mistake.

Putin ain't out to blow sunshine up anyone's ass, but I think he's got a way of dealing with things which offers stability. But I think I look better in the buff!! At least from the waist up. LOL!! He also needs a taller horse!

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Aug 2, 2016 13:45:30   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Carol, Just ask the nations of western Europe, former Soviet republics, the Americas, middle eastern countries, etc.if they would be comfortable if the US withdrew from NATO and other alliances. I am glad that you know more American history than I do. It is you that know nothing of the world. It is interesting that you are such a Putin fan. What has Putin done to instill such blind faith in the former KGB thug and dictator and chief? In what way has Russia demonstrated that it is willing to live within the constraints of international law?Since you are the great teacher, tell me.
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Who did you teach it to, and when?

I am talking about America in the present. I know American history, probably better than you, SW.

The nations of the world are no longer looking to the US for protection. Where have you been for the last few years?

I'm done talking to you. You seem not to want to know what's happening in the world. I suggest, if you want to improve your mind, read the topics I've created. I find that your mind is too little to absorb the great events now going on in the world. Like most Americans.
Who did you teach it to, and when? br br I am tal... (show quote)

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Aug 3, 2016 12:24:49   #
CarolSeer2016
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, Just ask the nations of western Europe, former Soviet republics, the Americas, middle eastern countries, etc.if they would be comfortable if the US withdrew from NATO and other alliances. I am glad that you know more American history than I do. It is you that know nothing of the world. It is interesting that you are such a Putin fan. What has Putin done to instill such blind faith in the former KGB thug and dictator and chief? In what way has Russia demonstrated that it is willing to live within the constraints of international law?Since you are the great teacher, tell me.
Carol, Just ask the nations of western Europe, for... (show quote)


You do not seem to understand world history, or the history of the various peoples of the world. (May God save the children who learned American history from you.) Nor do you understand the nature of today's people. You were brought up thinking America is the most moral country on earth. And you need to redefine your thinking.

I said before I will not talk to you, you have a juvenile way of thinking. But I will leave you with this question: do you think I would fall in love with a monster? Putin and I have a relationship. Ask him how he feels about me. But you might be afraid, I think. All you have to do is go to his website and click on "Contact". Do you dare?

You also might try RT; you might learn something from the commentators (from around the world) what they think of America. I post there as CarolSeer2016 as well; but I will be changing my name to KiraSeer2016.

Some RT commentators read OPP comments also.

Open your mind, you isolated little arrogant punk!! (Had to get that in.) And don't question my knowledge of people or world events. Putin doesn't.

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