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Nov 10, 2017 02:36:33   #
rumitoid
 
PeterS wrote:
So we shouldn't eliminate semi auto's we should tax the crap out of them! Good idea Blade. I'm going to email my senators and congressman...


In the face of outrageous and senseless gun violence due to inaction to control it, you have the audacity Blade to back mass slaughter with a semi-auto rifle. Tax it? Like that idiot O'Reilly said of the Las Vegas mass murder: "the price of liberty," Your kids, wife, friends? Maybe the new Tax plan due to screw America's poor and Middle Class and enrich the Elite could have a deductible for "the price of liberty" when kids, wife, or friends are slaughtered? What seems fair?

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Nov 10, 2017 03:39:37   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Unless it is based on a law passed by congress and signed by the president, a SCOTUS ruling IS NOT a statutory law of the land. Roe v Wade can be overturned without any action by congress.

Yup...

See, we can agree on things...

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Nov 10, 2017 04:26:55   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
You think I make very little sense, but you make none, because you don't live in reality. The supposed study you use is filled with lies and is nothing but false propaganda, written by a liberal liar to counter all the other studies that prove the exact opposite, just like the Clinton, DNC,and Obama false paid for "Trump Dossier" report, and several people have already mentioned false statistics in your false report that they know of just off hand, without even comparing it to one of the many real and true reports that prove the exact opposite.

Is the "AI program of Alt-Right speak" accusation supposed to make me ashamed of something? Do you think we are children here, and your supposed demeaning words are supposed to make me feel bad and jump to the side of your false BS and insanity and disregard of reality? Why don't you grow up instead of speaking like the avatar that you use.

We don't have enough cops with guns, for if we did the gun crimes and murders wouldn't be so outrageously high in all the long term Democratically controlled cities with their infringement laws against the American people's 2nd Amendment right where only the criminals are allowed guns because the liberals in those cities don't enforce the laws that are supposed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, who are the ones committing all the gun crimes and murders, not the law abiding citizens that you want to usurp their 2nd Amendment right, like in the cities of Chicago, Washington DC, Detroit, Baltimore, East St. Louis, and all the lists of long term Democratically controlled large cities in the USA, whose statistics you like to ignore and keep hidden from the people that you are trying to indoctrinate with yout liberal BS.

I believe nothing in your false propaganda report, and would hope someone on this site would have the time to compare it with some real, honest, and factually true reports on the same subject, which there are so very many out there that prove just the opposite of yours, being the first that I've ever seen to claim the BS that it does, and since all other reports on the same subject have always proven just the opposite, makes you false report very suspect.

You speak of and call others wackos, go to your nearest mirror and take a gander at a real and true wacko. Everything that you say and profess is nothing but liberal BS and lies, proven by all the reports that I've ever seen written on this subject, but I've already wasted enough of my time on your attempted indoctrination of liberal lies and your attempt at demeaning name calling, which doesn't make me shrink from the truth like the weak minded people.

Your "wacko" name calling attempt is just like you liberals calling people "birthers", because they point out the truth that Obama has never proven himself a 'Natural Born US Citizen' in over the last ten years that people have been demanding for him to do so, but has used two proven poorly made forgeries as his proof, and the millions of dollars in attorney fees that he used to keep that demand of proof out of liberal courts, because liberal judges claim American citizens don't have "STANDING" to demand proof of the US Constitution's mandate that any and all US Presidents be a 'Natural orn US Citizen', which in reality if American citizens don't have the "STANDING" to demand that proof of their President, than who the hell does.

Just more liberal name calling in an attempt to keep good people from asking good and pertinent questions, so don't waste your "wacko" name calling on me, because it, nor "birther", works to prevent me from seeking or speaking the truth. Act like a grown up, and treat others as such, if you want to be treated as the same.



rumitoid wrote:
You make very little sense. You write like an AI program of Alt-Right speak. Liberals are not enforcing the gun laws in place? Seriously? "Cops don't have enough guns"? You are seriously wacko. Your solution is to keep escalating guns. Eight of the most lenient states on guns have the highest gun violence, in the top fifteen. Alaska is number one in both categories. Not a single state with strict laws is in the top twenty for gun violence. OOPS! More guns means more innocent victims and violence: not a solution.
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Nov 10, 2017 05:17:38   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
I'm saying to keep your hands off my my 2nd Amendment right, as well as my right of free speech and religious freedom, that all you "wackos", one of your terms of demeanment, try to infringe upon and usurp so you can get your way and your enslavemnet agenda of the American people.

Those rights are our heritage, we've served in our US military to help earn them, and we don't want idiots like you trying to take them from us, because if you ever do come close to your enslavement goals of the American people and the destuction and attempt to make irrelevent our "Bill of Rights", we will take firm actions on our lifetime oath of honoring and protecting the US Constitutions from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, domestic idiots like you attempting to enslave us by usurping our rights. For not one of our rights shall we ever give up without a terrible fight to keep, and you can take that to the bank, as my brothers will mean to do the same, and on that you can be assured.

It's a shame that those we risk our lives serving to protect don't have enough respect to keep their hands off of the rights we have fought for, for ours and their benefits, and truthful people recognize and honor those facts.

Any decent parent that is aware of reality, knows that they are the last guard to keep their children safe, by using their 2nd Amendment right to protect their children from all the armed criminals with guns, that you liberals can't seem to enforce the laws in the cities that you control to protect us and our children from those illegally armed criminals, and in the end that responsiblility falls on us parents to do what you can't, protect our children that are being murdered on the streets of Chicago, Washington DC, Detroit, Baltimore, East St.Louis, and all the large cities that you Democrats have controlled for many years, disarming law abiding citizens, while being incapable of doing the same with the criminals that create all the carnage with the guns you keep from the law abiding citizens, who if allowed their 2nd Amendment right, could stop that carnage on them and theirs with what you keep them from having, guns of their own to stop the criminal with guns.

Those cities, and cities like them, is what is driving up the murder rates in the USA, because you keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens that need them to protect themselves and their loved ones, and the latest killings in Texas, with the "good guy with a gun" stopping the criminal that your laws were supposed to prevent him from having the guns he used to kill all those people, but failed, so many unarmed people were murdered, until one 2nd Amendment legally armed person stepped up and stopped the criminal from killing even more people. Yet you use that tragedy to try to disarm more American law abiding citizens, like the "good guy with a gun", and for what, to allow even more people to be killed by the criminals that you are incapable from enforcing the laws that ban them form possessing and owning guns, in more situations just like that Texas Church incident and occurence.

I still have my guns, and you'll never take them, but you may die trying. Give up your own rights, and keep your hands off mine, because your BS theories don't even come close to the truth of reality. I agree, if we disarm all you wacko liberals, the USA would become much safer, because all the criminals are liberals and registered Democrats, and the fact that the criminals own far more guns than do the law abiding citizens, which should scare any sane person. So when you can learn to enforce the laws that you already have on the books, and disarm all the criminals to really make the USA and it's people safe, then I'll discuss with you the disarming of the law abiding American citizens, until then stay in your ivory towers where your safe, and allow the rest of us living in the midst of the carnage, the ability to protect ourselves and loved ones, from those you are incapable of enforcing your gun banning laws that are already on the books, from the criminals who are creating the huge amount of the carnage being perpetrated on our street, where people like you don't have to go and are safe in your ivory towers, that all who want guns banned live.

Instead of me opening my ears, why don't you open yur eyes and look at reality, get on your soap box to disarm the criminals, who you never mention to disarm, so you don't have to admit who is really causing the carnage on our streets, because you are a failure at enforcing the gun banning laws that you have already been given to protect the American people, So learn to be successful at using the laws that we've already allowed you, before trying to create laws that will make us all unsafe and victims of your fellow liberal Democrats, all the heavily armed criminals, who you want to return their right to vote so they can help you disarm those pesky law abiding armed citizens that they fear may kill them in self defense when they try to make them their newest victims.



rumitoid wrote:
Let me get this: you are saying do nothing. Yes? Consequences? We are seeing them everyday with our lax gun laws. Sheer freaking madness not to respond. We have thoughts and prayers that God will keep our children safe, but we keep them from playing in traffic or drinking Drano. Rules of safety. Reasonable restraints. Wise cautions. How could any decent parent not want the safest environment for their child? To hell with your paranoid fears of confiscation. 8 years of Obama and every year the NRA said this was the year Black helicopters or FEMA or a special force of Russian troops under the command of Obama were coming for your guns. Do you still have your guns? Obama actually loosened gun laws: did you know that? Google it yourself, you will automatically and stupidly dismiss any source I suggest. The ACA has nothing whatsoever about protecting your children from the rampant--rampant!--gun violence. Are your freaking ears open?
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Nov 10, 2017 05:30:27   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
That would be nice if we could get all you liberals to do that, then all of the American people would be much more safer than we are today.

But don't worry about us, for intellignet American citizens know how to keep themselves and their loved ones safe, and our 2nd Amendment right gives us that ability, but idiots like you just can't seem to understand that, that the law abiding armed American citizens are not creating the carnage on our streets, but it is the liberal Democratic armed criminals that are committing most all of the carnage on our strreets, killing our children in all those long term Democratically controlled large cities in the USA.

These are facts that you refuse to admit, while trying to disarm the good guys with guns, who help protect others from your brothers in arms, the liberal Democratic criminals that you are incapable of enforcing the laws to disarn those who are actually creating the carnage, and no matter what you say, it doesn't change any of those truthful facts, that most all on these OPP sites know and agree with, despite any lies you try to indoctrinate the weak minded American people with, who fall for your nice propaganda words, that are as far from the truth as the east is from the west.



rumitoid wrote:
No, it objectively is not. Keep it vague, the intent, means back to our couches to lovingly watch re-runs of Opie or Happy Days and placidly hate reality.

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Nov 10, 2017 05:34:45   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Yes it can, if only you could ever find it and admit to its facts proven out by statistics, but I don't believe that you will ever be capable of that, at least up to now you have been proven incapable of doing the same.



Nickolai wrote:
The truth can be stunning huh !

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Nov 10, 2017 05:38:36   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
See, you've just proven my comment to you in your last posted comment, I rest may case. Open your eyes and admit to the truth, for it may save your soul, but then again, if you don't have one, then I guess it doesn't need saving, and being happy about that proves what an idiot your are, smart people hedge their bets.



Nickolai wrote:
No god gives anything a soul The first forms of life on earth was single celled animals that re-produced by dividing. Some where in antiquity in the ancient primordial seas A small single celled animal penetrated the Membrane of a larger cell and embedded mixing there DNA and sexual reproduction was born. When that egg cell divided it produced a life from that had never existed before and never would again and as countless generations passed the cells divided into many more cells following the path of evolution from gill slits to webbed fingers and toes from fish to amphibian to reptile to mammal to human beings, There is nothing sacred about the process-- miraculous yes --sacred no. Its all natural not super natural.
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Nov 10, 2017 05:38:38   #
PeterS
 
Randy131 wrote:
I'm saying to keep your hands off my my 2nd Amendment right, as well as my right of free speech and religious freedom, that all you "wackos", one of your terms of demeanment, try to infringe upon and usurp so you can get your way and your enslavemnet agenda of the American people.


Your second amendment right is to a gun not a certain type of gun or did I miss that when reading it?

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Nov 10, 2017 05:43:38   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
BigMike wrote:
It was on the news a few weeks ago. I'm iffy on the number of suicides because I heard in in passing...on the car radio or something. But the number was significant and there isn't as much statistical info on gun deaths as you might think, much of it is scattered far and wide and some is...suspect.


There isn't much in the way of statistics because CDC is forbidden by law (probably bought and paid for by NRA) to collect any statistics on gun violence.

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Nov 10, 2017 05:45:34   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
I know, because they all claim to be Democrats, who are the only liberals, progressives, socialists, communists, Marxists and fascists that I know of in the USA, and they were registered as such. Check it out, and when you're successful in returning their rights to vote to all your criminal brothers, you can start sending all your Democratic propaganda to all our prisons. I hear the outgoing Governor of Virginia was successful at doing that in his state, because they were losing to many Democrats with brains to the Republican Party, and had to replace them with somebody in order to keep getting elected in that state.



Nickolai wrote:
How do you know 97 % of all criminals are liberals. Liberalism is a philosophy I doubt criminals are philosophers. Criminals are just criminals and its doubtful that they care about politics. I have never heard a criminal expressing a political philosophy

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Nov 10, 2017 05:52:57   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Google terrorist and see the huge discreptancy in the number of those that are right wing, and those who are left wing. By the way, the FBI just released a report the other day about the Democratic surrogate groups of AntiFa and BLM had sent top members of their groups to Europe to collude with the ISIS and al Queda groups located there in order to get them to help arm and train their groups back in the USA, in bomb making and proven successful terrorist methods. That's a fact Jack, look it up, the report was released two days ago. Here it is, I'll save you some time in having to deny it:

The FBI Discovered Bombshell Evidence Of Collusion And It Changes Everything!

The hunt for evidence of collusion with Russia has defined 2017.

Now the FBI just unearthed a bombshell that proves once and for all that collusion did take place.

And this evidence will change everything for Donald Trump.

The FBI issued a report finding that left-wing members of Antifa traveled to Germany to collude with ISIS.

Antifa is the violent left-wing terrorist organization whose members have beaten Trump supporters with bats, clubs and bike locks at protests across America.

They also clashed with white supremacists in Charlottesville to start a riot that led to one young woman’s death.

Now the FBI has evidence they are taking their campaign of violence to the next level by colluding with Islamic terrorists.

The Daily Mail reports:

“A secret FBI investigation of the violent ‘resistance’ movement on college campuses against President Trump has led to an alarming discovery—the collusion between American anarchists and foreign terrorists in the Islamic State and Al qaeda, according to a confidential ‘Informational Report’ by FBI field offices.

‘There is clearly overwhelming evidence that there are growing ties between U.S. radicals and the Islamic State, as well as several [ISIS] offshoots and splinter groups,’ stated the FBI field report, which was delivered to Acting Director Andrew McCabe on July 11, 2017, and which is being published for the first time in my new book All Out War: The Plot to Destroy Trump.

The FBI report on efforts by Islamic terrorists to recruit followers among violent U.S. groups like Antifa corroborates President Trump’s controversial claim, following last summer’s deadly protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, that left-wing anarchist groups are just as dangerous as right-wing white supremacists….

…’While there has been military progress in Iraq against the Islamic State, their influence in Europe and throughout the world is clearly growing,’ the report said.

‘Now that the bureau has determined they have followers in the radical U.S. resistance movement in the United States, it is clear there will be additional violence in the attacks on law enforcement and U.S. institutions, including banks.

‘Ties between three key leaders of the Oakland group [names redacted] met in Hamburg with a leader of the AQAP [Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula] and the AQIM [Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb],’ the report continued. ‘The leader from AQAP is an Egyptian-born male [name redacted] who is known to be in charge of finances and recruiting for the group.

The FBI field report was delivered to Acting Director Andrew McCabe in July.

‘There is evidence from informants that he is helping the Oakland group acquire the weapons they are seeking, primarily bomb making equipment and toxic chemicals and gasses.

‘One of the men from Oakland traveled to Syria to meet with ISIS; the purpose was for training in tactics, but was thought to be primarily a bonding visit to discuss possible massive disruptive attacks in the U.S.

‘While in Hamburg, several of the Oakland-based criminals were photographed throwing Molotov cocktails and wielding iron bars, which have been their weapons of choice, though they are almost certainly on the verge of upping the caliber of their weaponry for use in the U.S.

The media, Democrats, and the Mueller investigation have struck out on trying to discover evidence that the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia.

But there is ample evidence of the left colluding with foreign adversaries against Trump.



Nickolai wrote:
Goggle right wing terrorism and wake up

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Nov 10, 2017 06:11:49   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Many SCOTUS rulings have been reversed in the past by future SCOTUSes, as had the ruling on slavery is just one example. So we know it can be done in the future, to protect human life, something that our 'Declaration of Independence' declares is a Creator's (GOD) unalienable endowed Right, but since you don't believe in GOD, then what the 'Declaration of Independence' has declared has no meaning or acceptance with you, so you believe the government has the right to take all your rights away, since you believe that only the government gave you your Rights, and those who give are capable, and have the right, to take back whatever was given.



Nickolai wrote:
That is the ruling of the SCOTUS and the law of the land like it or not

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Nov 10, 2017 06:21:55   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Yeah, you're right, you missed it. It says, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear 'Arms', shall not be infringed." Do you understand what that means? It means not just some specific type of Arms, but all Arms that can be beared, or carried by any person. Is that too hard to understand, and since we are incapable of carrying a tank, the right to bear tanks can be infringed upon, and that also to bear cannons or other artillary that are also incapble of being beared, which may help explain that Right a little further.



PeterS wrote:
Your second amendment right is to a gun not a certain type of gun or did I miss that when reading it?

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Nov 10, 2017 07:16:40   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Randy131 wrote:
And the Democrats keep them down on the "handout plantation", keeping them poor and voting for Democrats forever.


Spot on

If the Demo's were as passionate about creating jobs and require able bodied people to work those jobs instead of keeping them on the welfare plan maybe just maybe they wouldn't have to time to lolly gag around with nothing to do but get in trouble .

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Nov 10, 2017 07:20:10   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Randy131 wrote:
Good question, and I've got the correct answer, "Because they are completely ignorant of their own history." "African Americans aren't stupid," but out of Whites Orientals, Latinos, Native Americans, and Middle Easterners, they have the lowest averaged IQ of them all. "And the Republicans don't keep them poor and on the plantation," I know that, the Democrats do, in order to assure their votes for Democrats. 'Welfare, Food Stamps, & Government Handouts' are similar to narcotics, when Democrats get the black people hooked on them, it's very hard to get the black people off of them. and to keep getting those governmental narcotics, they have to be poor, and they know it, and that causes generaration after generation to stay poor and on those governmental narcotics. As long as they stay on those governmental narcotics, life will never get any better for them, or their children, who get hooked on the same by their parents example, and most all the black progeny will always stay on that "handout plantation", and are trained to vote for the Democrats, who help keep those plantation chains tightly bound. There is no pride in this, just simple statistical facts. But thank GOD it doesn't include all black people, for there are those who escaped from the Democrats' "handout plantation", became very successful, and joined the Republican Party. And now they're demonized by Democrats and those still chained to the Democrats' "handout plantation".
Good question, and I've got the correct answer, &q... (show quote)


The LBJ's Great Society

Quote I'll have those ******* voting Democrat for the next 200 yrs !

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