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Sep 9, 2017 21:40:06   #
oz89 Loc: California
 
SinnieK wrote:
Actually blacks have more opportunities than others races through 'Affirmative of Action' does that rings the bell? And Please do your own research and learn for yourselves if you are so interested.


Affirmative Action was a Democratic policy, not Republican in fact Republicans are trying to get rid of it. Along with other policies, like the policy allowing people to marry whomever they want to. The Republican party is all about the fiscal life, but human's are designed to be social creatures. At least according to the bible we are.

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Sep 9, 2017 21:47:23   #
oz89 Loc: California
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
My scholarship was given to a black wrestler at ohio state.
This was back in 1962. I was white, and considered able to work my way through college. But the black kid? Nope. He got the scholarship. My scholarship.


How do you know your scholarship was given to a black wrestler? I mean you were obviously not the only person who applied for the scholarship.

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Sep 9, 2017 21:57:54   #
oz89 Loc: California
 
SinnieK wrote:
The 'Affirmative of Action' was wrong and unfair to others. Your case was not alone there are so many cases widespread not just in school but also in work place. But blacks are still complained. I have many black friends who said they are embarrassed with this 'Affirmative of Action' policy because it throws them and other blacks who are very capable in the same pot.


What was wrong was the racism that was in place to cause a need for Affirmative Action.

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Sep 9, 2017 22:20:51   #
plainlogic
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
The

I just sent this LTE to the Times-Union as a followup to another LTE wherein the writer stated that his ancestors weren't slave owners but they fought to protect their families and property from marauding Union invaders.



Mack Gooding is 100% correct about the behavior of Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman’s troops during his infamous March to the Sea. He left behind a wake of destruction unprecedented in history.

After his less publicized march from Vicksburg across the South, he boasted to Abraham Lincoln , the city of Meridian no longer existed. Lincoln congratulated him.

The damage inflicted on the South was and remains the main reason why the South still lags behind the rest of the country economically. Blacks & whites all have suffered. Sherman’s executed and raped non-combatant victims included blacks & whites, an equal opportunity butcher. We prosecuted Germans and Japanese as war criminals after WWII for similar tactics.

Gen. Philip Sheridan did much the same in the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia. Both Sheridan and Sherman resumed their terrorism in the Indian Wars.

Those who advocate for the removal of Confederate memorials should remember these things. And no Confederate, not even the much maligned Nathan Bedford Forrest, remotely approached Sheridan and Sherman in the horrors inflicted. Maybe we should be tearing down Union commemoratives as well.
The br br I just sent this LTE to the Times-Unio... (show quote)


History is a guide for corrections. Laws have been made in military as well as civil. What we have going here is: political motives to achieve a progressive move towards SOCIALISM. The liberals use whatever it takes to achieve that agenda, they have spent mucho bucks $$$ to manipulate people to do felonious riots and acts of violence.

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Sep 9, 2017 22:30:28   #
plainlogic
 
PeterS wrote:
And blacks can't choose which religion they want to believe in? So much for our constitution and the first amendment right!



Pete, you should change the red white blue fist. Change it into a BLACK glove, raised in solidarity. Then you can harass republican voters at the polls. Heil LIBERALS!

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Sep 9, 2017 22:38:20   #
PeterS
 
Randy131 wrote:
The only fascists in the USA today are the groups of AntiFa and BLM, who both use fascist tactics as advocates to, and who have been endeared by, the Democratic Party. There has never ever been a conservative fascist, they all are historically either socialists, communists, or Marxists, such as Mussolini, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. Here is some proof of those facts:

The American Left Is Now The Party Of Fascism !!! History Repeats It's-Self !!!

August 9, 2017

The American Left Is Now The Party Of Fascism. The Democrats’ 'big lie', blaming own Fascist sins on Trump and Republicans.
The only fascists in the USA today are the groups ... (show quote)


Here are the central traits of Fascism:

1) Fervent Militarism and Nationalism.
2) Obsession with National Security.
3) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
4) Protection of Corporate power
5) Labor Power is Suppressed
6) Disdain for Intellectuals and Intellectualism
7) Anti immigration.
8) Obsession with Crime and Punishment
9) Disdain for Secularism
10) Opposition to Marxism and Communism.

Now you are accusing the left of being the new party of Fascism? So you think the tactics used to oppose Fascism is Fascism? And let me ask you--what tactics did we use to destroy Fascism in the past? Where those who used those tactics Fascists? That's the accusation you are trying to make....

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We hear the word “fascist” a whole lot these days: Trump is a fascist, if not a Nazi; The Republican Party is the fascist party.

As for the left, the Democrats, they present themselves as the anti-fascists, the people fighting fascism. We can see this in the names of leftist groups like Antifa, which stands for anti-fascism. Yet, when we look around, we see the Democratic and leftist protesters who are disrupting the inauguration. Who are organizing violent rallies around the country, who are stopping campus speakers from speaking.
We hear the word “fascist” a whole lot these days:... (show quote)


So how did we fight Fascism in the past?

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These are people who seem to be using fascist and Nazi tactics.

Did you ever hear Trump speak at one of his rallies? When he told people he would pay their legal fees was he trying to encourage violence or discourage it?

Do you understand what Fascist tactics are?

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The masked Antifa thugs carrying weapons seem eerily similar to the fascist Blackshirts and the Nazi Brownshirts.

And how is that any different than the neo-Nazi thugs that carried weapons at Charlottesville? How many people did ANTIFA kill when running them over?

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We need to look at fascism more closely and ask: Is fascism really a phenomenon of the left or of the right? Let’s begin with the remarkable statement by Adolf Hitler in a 1927 speech. “We are socialists,” he said. “We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation and we are determined to destroy the system under all conditions.” Does that sound like Donald Trump? Actually, it sounds a lot more like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.

Hitler changed the name of the German Workers Party to the National Socialist German Workers Party. He wanted to emphasize that the Nazis were socialists, and that Nazi economic policy involved complete state control of the private sector. Indeed, the very name Nazi is a compression of the two terms “national” and “socialist.”
We need to look at fascism more closely and ask: I... (show quote)

So if they are "all" socialists why did the Fascists eliminate the Socialists and the Communists in Germany? How can you be a socialist when you are executing everyone who claims to be one?

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All the leading figures of early fascism, not merely in Germany, but also in Italy, France and England – were men of the left. Most of them moved seamlessly from Marxism and socialism, to fascism and Nazism during the 1920s and 1930s.

Here are some examples. Jean Allemane, famous for his role in the Dreyfus case, one of the great figures of French socialism, became a fascist. So did the socialist organizer Georges Valois. Marcel Deat, the founder of the Parti Socialiste de France, eventually quit and started a pro-fascist party in 1936. Jaques Doriot, a French communist, moved his Parti Populaire Francais into the fascist camp. Belgian socialist writer Henri de Man transitioned into becoming a fascist theoretician. In England, Oswald Mosley, a socialist and Labor Party Member of Parliament, broke with the laborites because he found them insufficiently radical. He later founded the British Union of Fascists and became the country’s leading Nazi sympathizer.

In Germany, there was a similar traffic from socialism to fascism. To give a single example, the socialist playwright Gerhart Hauptmann embraced Hitler’s National Socialism and produced plays during the Third Reich. After the war, he called himself a communist and staged his productions in Soviet-dominated East Berlin.

In Italy, philosopher Giovanni Gentile moved from Marxism to become fascism’s leading intellectual. Many Italian labor organizers made the same journey: Ottavio Dinale, Tullio, Masotti, Carlo Silvestri and Umberto Pasella. The socialist writer Agostino Lanzillo joined Mussolini’s parliament as a member of the fascist party.

Nicola Bombacci, one of the founders of the Italian Community Party, became Mussolini’s top adviser in 1943.

Gentile’s disciple Ugo Spirito, who also served Mussolini, moved from Marxism to fascism and then back to Marxism. Like Hauptmann, Spirito became a communist sympathizer after World War II and called for a new “synthesis” between communism and fascism.

All of this is incomprehensible if fascism is considered somehow “right wing.” None of these men saw it that way. They didn’t “convert” from left to right. Rather, they viewed themselves as moving seamlessly from one form of socialism to another. From a purely class-based socialism to a broader form of socialism that took into account class as well as national loyalties.

We can see this in the example of Mussolini, who established the world’s first fascist regime in Rome, a decade before Hitler came to power. Mussolini was the leading Marxist in Italy, the recognized leader of Italian socialism. After his successful March on Rome, Lenin sent his congratulations, praising Mussolini as a fellow revolutionary on the left. Mussolini’s career shows how fascism grew out of Marxism. Marx had predicted that the increased impoverishment of workers would cause a socialist revolution to erupt in the most advanced industrial countries: Germany and Great Britain.

That didn’t happen. This created the famous “crisis of Marxism” in the late 19th and early 20th century. Out of that crisis came two new forms of socialism: Leninist Bolshevism and Mussolini’s Fascism.

“The foundation of fascism,” Mussolini writes in his “Autobiography,” “is the conception of the state. Fascism conceives the State as an absolute. In comparison to which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. For us Fascists, the State … represents the immanent spirit of the nation.” Replace the word “fascism” with “progressivism,” and we could be hearing these words recited at a Democratic National Convention.

Mussolini broke with Marx on a single point. Marx insisted that workers are loyal only to their class. “The working man,” Marxists liked to say, “has no country.” Mussolini knew that people are no less attached to their nation than to their occupation. Consequently, Mussolini, like Hitler, embraced socialism of a special kind, namely national socialism.

Like the Marxists, the fascists and the Nazis also embraced violence as a revolutionary concept. Nazi violence involved disrupting campus events, threatening and beating up dissenters. And enforcing a conformity of thought and practice in line with the regnant ideology. Notice the close similarity between this fascist bullying and the conduct of the American left today.

In ideology and in tactics, the American left today is the party of fascism. The only difference is that it denies its true pedigree. Their big lie is to blame their own sins on Trump and the Republicans. In a sick twist, the real fascists in America pretend to be anti-fascists. And accuse the true anti-fascists of being fascists.
All the leading figures of early fascism, not mere... (show quote)


1) don't conflate Nazi Fascism with the Italian brand. That's like calling Caffeinated and decaffeinated coffees the same. Not hardly. 2) Look at the trait of Fascism listed above. Are any of them left wing? And just how can someone be a Marxist and a Fascist at the same time--you are talking about two fully different belief systems that are produced by completely different philosophies.

Below is a good read on how Hitler regarded Socialism.

https://www.thoughtco.com/was-adolf-hitler-a-socialist-1221367

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Sep 9, 2017 22:43:18   #
PeterS
 
plainlogic wrote:
Pete, you should change the red white blue fist. Change it into a BLACK glove, raised in solidarity. Then you can harass republican voters at the polls. Heil LIBERALS!

A red white and blue fist can be raised in solidarity. Do you think those who raised a black fist weren't great Americans themselves?



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Sep 9, 2017 23:10:18   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Fascism exists only in the lefty lexicon describing Trump supporters who love America as founded.

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Sep 9, 2017 23:39:57   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
SinnieK wrote:
The liberals do not want to see blacks become self-sufficient they want blacks to depend on government so they can control them and also to get votes from them.


And the Black's love it.

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Sep 10, 2017 00:28:28   #
SinnieK
 
Morgan wrote:
Go figure? You obviously haven't been able to do that yet concerning the history of political parties, maybe try and do some research, aah forget it, you'll just deny the truth and facts.


It sounds just like new kid around the block had been brainwashed and lied to with rewritten history to fit the globalists narrative. Go back to the real history from 1773 or 1774 if you want to learn real history.

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Sep 10, 2017 01:17:15   #
EconomistDon
 
oz89 wrote:
What policy has a Republican put in place that give black people the freedom and Equal opportunity to be self reliant?


1. Emancipation Proclamation -- freeing the slaves
2. 15th Amendment -- giving blacks the right to vote.
3. Civil Rights Act of 1957
4. Civil Rights act of 1964
5. Welfare-to-Work free training -- defunded by Obama

The first four were ALL Republican initiatives, passed by Republicans, fought by Democrats. Number 5 was implemented under Clinton and expanded under Bush; it was exceptionally successful at providing marketable skills for blacks to leave dependency and become working, tax paying citizens. Apparently Obama didn't want blacks to leave welfare.

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Sep 10, 2017 07:54:59   #
Morgan
 
plainlogic wrote:
History is a guide for corrections. Laws have been made in military as well as civil. What we have going here is: political motives to achieve a progressive move towards SOCIALISM. The liberals use whatever it takes to achieve that agenda, they have spent mucho bucks $$$ to manipulate people to do felonious riots and acts of violence.


Show me where it was socialism that caused unrest, and not the dictatorship it was under. Your post is first untrue, second, your comment of liberals doing whatever it takes to achieve their goal is not only false but completely over exaggerated. What are these socialistic goals, where are they against our democracy, and "force" their political agenda upon anyone,? Go ahead show me...If you want to see bucks manipulate people with felonious acts, look at your own party before you throw your counterfeit mantra.

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Sep 10, 2017 08:07:26   #
Morgan
 
SinnieK wrote:
It sounds just like new kid around the block had been brainwashed and lied to with rewritten history to fit the globalists narrative. Go back to the real history from 1773 or 1774 if you want to learn real history.



You're avoiding(ignoring) what I said, why...because you don't want to acknowledge the truth of the parties changing. Newsflash nothing remains the same, want proof, take a look at every amendment we've made. The parties have changed...period, go take an American political history class. In respect to what we're talking about reading the history of 1773-74 is pointless.

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Sep 10, 2017 08:29:18   #
Kevyn
 
SinnieK wrote:
<guyjohnson@johnsoncapital.com> wrote:

Blacks who were never slaves are fighting whites who were never Nazis over Confederate statues erected by southern Democrats because now Democrats can't stand their own history anymore......yet somehow it's Trumps fault!
Blacks oppressed by institutional racism fighting neo Nazis and klansmen to remove hideous monuments to traitors to our nation while President Trump pours gas on the fire by failing to denounce Nazis and equating their behavior to that of people working for equal rights and civil rights.

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Sep 10, 2017 08:33:37   #
Morgan
 
EconomistDon wrote:
1. Emancipation Proclamation -- freeing the slaves
2. 15th Amendment -- giving blacks the right to vote.
3. Civil Rights Act of 1957
4. Civil Rights act of 1964
5. Welfare-to-Work free training -- defunded by Obama

The first four were ALL Republican initiatives, passed by Republicans, fought by Democrats. Number 5 was implemented under Clinton and expanded under Bush; it was exceptionally successful at providing marketable skills for blacks to leave dependency and become working, tax paying citizens. Apparently Obama didn't want blacks to leave welfare.
1. Emancipation Proclamation -- freeing the slaves... (show quote)



It wasn't defunded by Obama at all, is this a mistake or intentional misinformation? If anyone were to defund in 2012, it would've come through the Republican House, not Obama. Obama had probably changed conditions to TANF due to the hampered recovery of the great recession(ha)from the obstruction from the right, not to mention the unemployment rate at that time. Let us all give them a BIG thank you for that...good job.

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