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Jan 30, 2017 11:16:32   #
bahmer
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Immigration is not evil, illegal immigration is an invasion. True immigrants come into our nation having gone through the process to ensure they do not pose mental, medical, or hostile threats to American citizens. They bring with them traditions that are in harmony with many of American values, training and skills. Overall, I am not opposed to legal immigrants. However, one has to keep in mind that the US land mass is just what it is, it is not growing. Keeping that in mind, we only have limited ability to financially support and to feed a given amount of people. Taking the death rate in consideration, one could expect for the US to remain self sufficient with an influx of about 700,000 people a year. Any more than that puts strains on educational systems, state run programs that include welfare, and federal programs. Also, this limit encourages assimilation into the American philosophies and encourages participation in attaining the goals of America. Sanctuary cities encourage immigrants to first and foremost break the laws, but also denies these people encouragement of embracing their new country. My personal opinion, illegals regardless of age or time in country need to be deported immediately. While we open our doors to legal immigration of people who will not undermine our nation, ideals, or hinder our forward momentum. We also must ensure the safety and well being of Americans. Due to the overt hostilities of some nations, individuals from those regions seeking visa or resettlement into the US must be put through vigorous investigations and denied admittance without respect to what is transpiring in their home country. American citizens should never fear they are being usurped by muslim who do not hold our values or any other cults that wish to do us harm.
Immigration is not evil, illegal immigration is an... (show quote)


Spot on I agree.

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Jan 31, 2017 06:54:39   #
rebob14
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.


We need immigrants based on the needs of the economy, not for the increase of votes

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Jan 31, 2017 08:40:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I concur.
rebob14 wrote:
We need immigrants based on the needs of the economy, not for the increase of votes

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Jan 31, 2017 09:22:01   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
If you want to see non-assimilation w/o integration just take a trip to Little Mogadishu in Mpls, Mn. It offends the hell out of me that they're teaching sharia law in some schools while the Constitution is being ignored and muslims that have been here 20 yrs don't speak english-talk about a breeding grounds for trouble.

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Jan 31, 2017 09:53:41   #
Radiance3
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.


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There are two kinds of immigrants. Legal and illegal immigrant. The legal immigrants came and followed all the rules of the law. They are usually educated people. They came to realize their dreams. They work hard, educate their children, and later become successful. They pay taxes. They are patriotic and assimilate the culture of our country. Most legal immigrants have reached the highest peak of their lives. They become citizens and fully assimilate our values. Fact is America is founded by legal immigrant following our Founding Fathers.

On the contrary, illegal immigrant violate the laws of our land. They came to FREE LOAD, cause terror, invade, bring drugs. Many of them are convicts, and rapists, criminals and terrorists. they are illegal in this country and must be sent back where they came from. If they want to come, they must come legally.

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Jan 31, 2017 10:10:50   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
hprinze wrote:
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NO muslim should be allowed in the US Those already here should be removed


I say no illegals period and certainly not Muslim until they can be vetted...If they can't then they all stay out!!

Illegal immigration costs our country more than $113 billion a year. And this is what we get, not a dang thing..They work and send their money home.. They aren't spending it our economy, but they sure can use our social programs up...About 87 billion is paid locally within the states...We have about 12 million already here.. We have absorbed more than any other country at the demise of our way of life and finances we can no longer expend...And I suggest we have a lot more than is recorded too..More like 20 million are here so say dome..

They live here, send their money home, bring crime, diseases and cost us more than we can afford...They do not support this country or assimilate into it, they just use it as their temporary residence..

Positives, let me think about that one..

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Jan 31, 2017 10:34:39   #
bahmer
 
lindajoy wrote:
I say no illegals period and certainly not Muslim until they can be vetted...If they can't then they all stay out!!

Illegal immigration costs our country more than $113 billion a year. And this is what we get, not a dang thing..They work and send their money home.. They aren't spending it our economy, but they sure can use our social programs up...About 87 billion is paid locally within the states...We have about 12 million already here.. We have absorbed more than any other country at the demise of our way of life and finances we can no longer expend...And I suggest we have a lot more than is recorded too..More like 20 million are here so say dome..

They live here, send their money home, bring crime, diseases and cost us more than we can afford...They do not support this country or assimilate into it, they just use it as their temporary residence..

Positives, let me think about that one..
I say no illegals period and certainly not Muslim ... (show quote)


There are no positives and we should round up all of the illegals and ship them home to where ever they came from. Even if they are here legally and refuse to assimilate or teach against our constitution they should be rounded up and shipped back to their original home country.

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Jan 31, 2017 10:51:23   #
jer48 Loc: perris ca
 
hprinze wrote:
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NO muslim should be allowed in the US Those already here should be removed


I agree including obomma

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Jan 31, 2017 10:53:35   #
jer48 Loc: perris ca
 
rebob14 wrote:
We need immigrants based on the needs of the economy, not for the increase of votes


we don't need them for that either train our young people

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Jan 31, 2017 11:07:03   #
Radiance3
 
lindajoy wrote:
I say no illegals period and certainly not Muslim until they can be vetted...If they can't then they all stay out!!

Illegal immigration costs our country more than $113 billion a year. And this is what we get, not a dang thing..They work and send their money home.. They aren't spending it our economy, but they sure can use our social programs up...About 87 billion is paid locally within the states...We have about 12 million already here.. We have absorbed more than any other country at the demise of our way of life and finances we can no longer expend...And I suggest we have a lot more than is recorded too..More like 20 million are here so say dome..

They live here, send their money home, bring crime, diseases and cost us more than we can afford...They do not support this country or assimilate into it, they just use it as their temporary residence..

Positives, let me think about that one..
I say no illegals period and certainly not Muslim ... (show quote)

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Linda, I was so proud of President Trump when he fired that temporary DOJ appointed by Obama. She violated the law. Her actions were insubordinate to our president. Her actions were all political by not following the orders of our new president.

"You're fired", that was fun, and I hope that serves a lesson to all those who violate the policy of President Trump. Fact is President Trump is a very effective leader. He must stay FIRM on his ban of Radical Islam from those countries where they came from unless vetted.

We are at war with Radical Islam. People from those countries where they belong must not be allowed to enter the US. In WW2, German refugees and Japanese refugees were not allowed to come to the United States.

President's ban is not about religion, is not about race. It is about protecting the American people. This is the number one job of the president, as stated in the constitution.

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Jan 31, 2017 11:58:09   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.


In the 60 years that Ellis Island was open they processed 12 million immigrants. Those immigrants were not given free medical care or anything else. They came here for opportunity and were willing to find any job and go to work. We have more illegal immigrants in America today than the number of legal immigrants Ellis Island processed. We have an invasion on our southern border, not illegal immigration, and they are not the sanitized version called "undocumented immigrants" the left calls them; they are criminals because they broke our laws. Period. I would opt to send every single one of them AND their anchor children back across the southern border. We do not need new immigration legislation. We need to enforce our current laws. Democrats want to give amnesty to illegal immigrant invaders to buy their vote and cheat the American electoral process. Chip it in stone.

If I were a Muslim, especially a woman, who validly immigrated escaping persecution from another Muslim country, I damn sure would not want the same type of Muslims immigrating into America that I was escaping from. Obama didn't guard against this and the stupid, ignorant, cum by ya, Progressives have their panties in a wad because Trump has said "enough!" America first!

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Jan 31, 2017 12:08:21   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
bahmer wrote:
There are no positives and we should round up all of the illegals and ship them home to where ever they came from. Even if they are here legally and refuse to assimilate or teach against our constitution they should be rounded up and shipped back to their original home country.


I don't have a problem with what you say at all!

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Jan 31, 2017 12:12:09   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Hi LJ. That AG that got fired pulled her little tantrum for one reason. Purely political. The left will adore her now.
lindajoy wrote:
I don't have a problem with what you say at all!

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Jan 31, 2017 12:40:45   #
F.D.R.
 
plainlogic, based on the security section of the code it would seem pretty plain that practitioners of ISLAM could be barred based on their adherence to the Koran which is clearly in conflict with our Constitution.

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Jan 31, 2017 12:48:13   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Linda, I was so proud of President Trump when he fired that temporary DOJ appointed by Obama. She violated the law. Her actions were insubordinate to our president. Her actions were all political by not following the orders of our new president.

"You're fired", that was fun, and I hope that serves a lesson to all those who violate the policy of President Trump. Fact is President Trump is a very effective leader. He must stay FIRM on his ban of Radical Islam from those countries where they came from unless vetted.

We are at war with Radical Islam. People from those countries where they belong must not be allowed to enter the US. In WW2, German refugees and Japanese refugees were not allowed to come to the United States.

President's ban is not about religion, is not about race. It is about protecting the American people. This is the number one job of the president, as stated in the constitution.
================== br Linda, I was so proud of Pre... (show quote)


Radiance, you and I both.!!. She was a left over from BO'S administration too.. She sure had no problem letting him trample all over the Constitution or sit silent while the other cronies did his dirty deeds, did she?

I say good one to make an example of so all understand he's not playing their games!! She banked on the fact she had higher clearance etc..He showed her only if she had a job!!!

We are at war with Radical Islam, yet to see the reaction of some, even in here I'm shocked!! It can't be blinders..Stupidity ??? I suspect the propaganda spewed for so long truly does have these people in our country that stand against it, very troubled and troubling to we that want security protection as the President is charged with first and foremost..

He is an anomaly, that can't be figured out and I say all the better.. Everyone complains he's breaking tradition, I say good, exactly what we wanted... Politics as they were achieved nothing.. Look what he has already done first week in..

Complain they can, bad mouth him they will, but they can not take away his ACTION to do as pledged to the citizend!! He is doing it...

Again you are right his order is against countries known to support and harbor terrorist!! Has nothing to do with religion..

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