PeterS wrote:
American unions were the reason jobs were high paying with benefits. Unions are all but dead in this country and there is nothing congress will do about that.
The claim was the unions priced themselves out of a job. I was in the Carpenters Union years ago. It was the best job I had. The best paid workers are still Union workers. Lowering wages and benefits did not result in lower consumer prices on any thing. Where did all the money go?
PeterS wrote:
American unions were the reason jobs were high paying with benefits. Unions are all but dead in this country and there is nothing congress will do about that.
American Unions are also the reason that the jobs left America, or went to other parts of America.
Cars are still being made in America, just not in places where citizens don't have the right to work.
Super Dave wrote:
American Unions are also the reason that the jobs left America, or went to other parts of America.
Cars are still being made in America, just not in places where citizens don't have the right to work.
I sometimes run into people from right to work states. They all say the same thing--right to work is the right to work for nothing.
Super Dave wrote:
http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/Reagan%20tax%20cuts%20and%20revenue.jpg
You're just upset because it worked.
You are measuring revenue growth out of a recession Dave--of course it grew. The 8 year YoY growth in revenue declined (was cut in half from a YoY of 15% to 7.5%) under Reagan, as it should have considering taxes were cut, and we brought in less revenue than had taxes never been cut. That's the purpose of a tax cut Dave, not to bring in more money for government.
Cutting taxes doesn't increase revenue. It didn't under Reagan, it didn't under Bush, and it won't under Trump. You are spouting an urban myth which, without corresponding budget cuts, will cause a massive increase in debt. But who cares right. We won, yippie, yippie, yea.....
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I want to know. It has never worked before. Post here
Tom,
When you define rich as everybody who pays taxes, how can taxes be cut for anybody other than the rich?
Super Dave wrote:
American Unions are also the reason that the jobs left America, or went to other parts of America.
Cars are still being made in America, just not in places where citizens don't have the right to work.
And unions are also the reason people were able to earn an income that put them in the middle class an not low income where it took two jobs for a family to earn a decent living--as it does in your right to be poor states...
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
The claim was the unions priced themselves out of a job. I was in the Carpenters Union years ago. It was the best job I had. The best paid workers are still Union workers. Lowering wages and benefits did not result in lower consumer prices on any thing. Where did all the money go?
Profits. In 1980 a CEO only earned 10% more than their workers. Not so to day. The only chance for a worker to make it up is by investing in the stock market and few have the discretionary income to do so and keep up...
Voice of Reason wrote:
Tom,
When you define rich as everybody who pays taxes, how can taxes be cut for anybody other than the rich?
That should be true but it isn't. There is nothing wrong for those who gain the most benefit from living in this country to contributing the most in revenue to its government...
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I sometimes run into people from right to work states. They all say the same thing--right to work is the right to work for nothing.
The autoworkers in AL, SC, TN, and What do the autoworkers in Detroit say?
But yes, you should have the right to volunteer at a VA, Special Needs Clinic, Church, or some other place that can't afford to pay you if you feel called to volunteer. The government should not stop you.
Let me get this right.
1. Unions pay huge sums of money to elect and re-elect Democrats.
2. The Democrats that took the money give their Union donors the authority to determine whether or not a private citizen can be hired by a company.
3. Every citizen that is hired by the private company is required by the law passed by these Democrat donor recipients to pay a fee (homage, tax, whatever) to the union.
4. The union takes it's cut from the fees it collects and gives the rest to the Democrats to keep laws in place that allow unions to force these fees to be paid.
Did I miss a step in the money laundering scheme?
Voice of Reason wrote:
Tom,
When you define rich as everybody who pays taxes, how can taxes be cut for anybody other than the rich?
Well I pay taxes and I think It is fair for me to. We have several large corporations in this country paying no taxes on billions in profits--is that fair?
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Buy American made goods
Exactly Tom, where would we be now if Walmart had put it's discount efforts and purchasing power to American wholesaler's verses China. Guess they didn't listen to Regan when he said buy American, too bad for us.
With that thought there 's no reason why we can't reverse that. We have a magazine called Our State, it promotes all of its home grown businesses, how about every state have that with a directory.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Well I pay taxes and I think It is fair for me to. We have several large corporations in this country paying no taxes on billions in profits--is that fair?
Yes...
It's hard to believe someone as smart as you didn't know that corporate taxes are only be passed down to mostly middle and low income people who pay them. These taxes increase the cost of good and hurt low income people the hardest, because welfare, Social Security, and Food Stamps are fixed and don't increase every time some bone-head causes inflation.
Perhaps you should Google "Who really pays corporate taxes"
https://www.google.com/#q=who+really+pays+corporate+taxes
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Well I pay taxes and I think It is fair for me to. We have several large corporations in this country paying no taxes on billions in profits--is that fair?
If they're getting tax benefits, than lets see where we're benefiting from giving them these tax breaks, quid- pro-quo, just like I teach my kids when they ask me to do something for them.
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