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Dec 31, 2013 20:50:28   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I like the idea and sat 10% every other year so they can adjust.


emarine wrote:
Thought inspiring post Big Mike.... What if We the American People from all parties demand all Government employees take a big rate of pay cut until the rest of America catches up... keeping the small salaried people close to normal scale but hit the fat cats hard like 50% or more... that would give some incentive to do their jobs or get out of Washington while freeing up some capital for Americas budget and other needs... just a thought,, I thought the cost of Government was a lot less.

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Jan 1, 2014 11:32:33   #
stan3186
 
Tasine wrote:
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Good citizens then feed them, help them get on their feet, help them in every way they can. In my community that is done on a somewhat regular basis.

When I was growing up, there was no "welfare". Had there been, my family would have qualified for help, and my father would have died before accepting a dime - he would have felt shame. My dad would rather face hunger than shame. We never went without a decent meal - it wouldn't have suited an Obama, but we did quite well with it. We each had two pairs of shoes - one pair for work, another for Sunday School. We were taught the value of a dollar, had both parents and were raised properly - not at all like today's children who come home to empty houses, shift for themselves, make their own rules, and eventually learn some discipline or fail. Do I want to return to the good old days before welfare? Yep, sure do because people were nicer then.
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Man I hear you. Sound like you were raised in a similar manner as I. I also had two pairs of shoes, one for everyday wear and school, one strictly for Sunday school and church. My dad and I would go shopping once per year, just before the start of school, and buy all of my clothes for the current school year. I was expected to take care of those clothes by taking off my school clothes and changing into play clothes when I got home. If I wore a hole into the knees than my mother would put patches on the knees and I would continue to wear those for school.

My parents were not poor, my father was a teacher and a football coach and my mother was the school secretary. When I came home from school, I was not left alone because we had a "maid" that took care of ironing and cleaning house and watching me. I am from the South and this was very common for a middle income family to have a "maid".

My parents taught values as in the value of the dollar, the value of working for what you get, and respect of other people especially your elders. My father was not abusive but he was intolerant of disrespectful children to their parents or other "grown-ups". If I "talkback" to my mother or to my father I could easily have found myself waking up on the other side of the room. It would just not be tolerated and that type of discipline was commonplace.

I received, when I was 16, a three dollar per week allowance. It had to be earned by doing my routine chores throughout the week. If the chores were not done, I would not receive my allowance (the value of earning your keep), if I needed more than my normal allowance because I want to go on a date then my father would give me extra work to do (like washing the cars) in order to earn the money for my date.

All of these things was not to show his dominance in the family but to teach values, the values of respect "don't talk back". The value of the dollar "do you chores". The value of privilege "earn your extra money".

In this day and age of Enlightenment all of these lessons would be considered child abuse. I think it would benefit children today to be abused in a similar manner.

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Jan 1, 2014 12:09:23   #
imbobbyc Loc: Montana
 
numbers on small peaces of paper will add up to a lot of paper but not much value

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Jan 1, 2014 12:12:22   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
DotsMan wrote:
Good reply, I think I like you.
I was actually trying to be a little factious because most of the government employees that I have had to deal with didn't seem to have very marketable skills and attitudes.

Question. Did you come from my neighborhood? You appear to have the same kind of up-bringing that I had.
I only had one pair of shoes though, wore them to school and Sunday school, they had to last all until the next year when the tomato crop was sold and school clothes were ordered from the Sears Roebuck catalog.
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:D :D Don't know what your neighborhood was, but I grew up in central Texas on cotton farms. Did my share of chopping (weeding actually) and picking/pulling cotton. Attended a small school, but didn't do a lot of socializing with the kids as most of them lived "in town", and I lived 5 miles out. One thing ALL of us had: DISCIPLINE.......at home AND at school. Another thing all of us had was a sense of decency and honor. The school supported the parents and the parents supported the school.

Edited for PS. I think I like you too! :D :D

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Jan 1, 2014 17:04:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Most interesting stats...But I wonder, looking at the GS tables, are these people included in the calculation or are they in a different catagoy? I could view the tables but not print them, that may be my own fault but could not post them.. The range was from very low $20,000 for GS 1 to little over $100,000 for GS 12 or 13, the highest pay level..Most employees start as GS 5.. My point is the rates are much lower than those quoted for Govt. service in the article. So are the included but not mentioned or are we discussing an other category of employee?

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Jan 2, 2014 00:32:01   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
Government payroll : Many millionaires !
1 trillion dollars in $100.00 bills weighs:
11,023.11 tons ! or 22,046,226.22 Lbs.


http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/the_trillion-plus_heist.html


A person could get a bad back carrying around that kind of cash.

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Jan 2, 2014 11:29:25   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
DotsMan wrote:
Sounds good to me, but then what do you do with all those people out of work with no marketable job skills?


Immigration.....Immigration.....are start voting with a brain!!!!

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