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Aug 27, 2016 19:03:46   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
What gun(s) is not made to injure? This should be interesting


Going with Paul's stance on this, I would say none. The same could be applied to bows, slingshots, spears, and rocks.
Guns are made for different jobs. Can they all kill? Yes. Just like a lot of things we deal with daily.
If you are worried about people killing people.....think about how long that has been going on. Even before the gun was invented.
People will always kill people. One way, or the other.

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Aug 27, 2016 19:09:34   #
Morgan
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
If you got rid of the gun murders in just a handful of major cities, America would be one of the safest places to live in the world. These cities have a large number of blacks, and have been run by Democrats for decades. Do you see the connection?


I see a connection with inner cities and violence, which has always been as far as violent crimes maybe we should look at who is committing them.

The average violent crime rate (murder, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault) in 2008 for the 28 states that voted for Barack Obama in the 2008 Presidential election was 389 incidents per 100,000 residents. The average violent crime rate for the 22 states that voted for John McCain was 412 incidents per 100,000 residents – or a 5.8 percent higher incidence of violent crime.

Which means the republican majority states are more violent. Go figure.

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Aug 27, 2016 19:12:40   #
Morgan
 
archie bunker wrote:
Going with Paul's stance on this, I would say none. The same could be applied to bows, slingshots, spears, and rocks.
Guns are made for different jobs. Can they all kill? Yes. Just like a lot of things we deal with daily.
If you are worried about people killing people.....think about how long that has been going on. Even before the gun was invented.
People will always kill people. One way, or the other.




Arch I've heard that argument before, but here's the thing, Guns are a whole lot easier to kill a whole lot more people in a whole lot less time. See the difference. This is why soldiers use them and aren't going around with spears and bow & arrows.

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Aug 27, 2016 19:20:58   #
Morgan
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Damn, and here you leftys are trying to prove that America is the world's premier slaughterhouse. I've heard leftists say that America has become the Wild West. The way you guys bitch and whine over gun crime stats, you'd think that America's 80 million gun owners are out gunning down everything that moves.

BTW, I wasn't making comparisons, I was just showing the stats indicating that America is not Numero Uno in gun violence. As you seem to want it to be.



REALLY...

Also the people doing the constant bitching and whining are you fearful gun fanatics that buy into "they're coming to take your gun" hoohoohee hee haa haa, Well where has that even come close to happening, it's all a ploy...Geeeezzz



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Aug 27, 2016 19:39:48   #
Morgan
 
archie bunker wrote:
If someone on the right doesn't like something, they don't do it, or own it.
If a lefty doesn't like something, they don't want anyone to do it, or own it.
It IS about control.


Yeah riiiiight, please spare us, looking at your party through those rose colored spectacles again..

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Aug 27, 2016 19:40:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Arch I've heard that argument before, but here's the thing, Guns are a whole lot easier to kill a whole lot more people in a whole lot less time. See the difference. This is why soldiers use them and aren't going around with spears and bow & arrows.


You are right about the ability to kill, but the Constitution gives me the right to have them. I have never been arrested, haven't had a traffic ticket in over 20 years, and pay my own way. Why should my Constitutional right to own a gun be in dispute?
How do you feel about purging all Muslims from America? Same thing.

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Aug 27, 2016 19:44:24   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Blade referred to Gun Stats, you narrowed it to homicides...??? And only included what you felt important..

I omitted the first part copied and just continued the entire article....

Another look with the article that defines reported consideration to come to the conclusion drawn..

http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/12/07/458815891/the-u-s-is-a-world-leader-in-gun-deaths

If we compare the U.S. to Western Europe, which is a fair comparison in terms of socioeconomics, we are simply way, way higher," Mokdad says.

Central And Eastern Europe: The U.S. Is No. 2 (Out Of 21)

Countries that were part of the Soviet Union have relatively high levels of gun violence. But even in this region, the U.S. ranks right near the top. Only Albania has higher levels of gun deaths, with 5.86 per 100,000 people.


There's also an interesting correlation with a popular recreational substance. "In Eastern Europe and Russia, gun deaths are more closely associated with alcohol use, not drug abuse," Mokdad says.

The Americas: The U.S. Is No. 13 (Out Of 20)

Compared with its neighbors in North, South and Central America, the U.S. has a relatively low rate of gun violence. The U.S. ranks 13th out of 20 countries in terms of gun deaths — far behind El Salvador (52.39), Colombia (35.08) and Venezuela (32.66). Just six major countries in the Americas have lower rates of gun death than the U.S. — ranging from Argentina (3.08) to Canada (0.49).


Overall, gun violence is far worse in Central America than anywhere else in the world. And it's largely due to one problem, says Mokdad. "In El Salvador and Honduras, there are a lot of gangs and drug trafficking, especially among younger men, and that has resulted in a big increase in gun violence."

North Africa And The Middle East: The U.S. Is No. 2 (Out Of 21)


This might be the most surprising statistic of all: If the United States were in the Middle East, it would have the second-highest rate of gun deaths of any nation — more than Libya, Egypt, Sudan and Israel combined. (Again, these numbers do not include deaths in armed conflicts.) In fact, only Iraq has a higher level of non-conflict-related gun deaths.

Sub-Saharan Africa: The U.S. Is No. 8 (Out Of 43)


In areas of sub-Saharan Africa where there is not armed conflict, death rates from guns are relatively low. If the U.S. were on the continent, it would have the eighth-highest number of gun deaths. It would be well ahead of most countries, including several with a violent reputation: the Democratic Republic of Congo, Rwanda, Somalia and South Sudan.

Southeast Asia, East Asia And Australasia: The U.S. Is No. 3 (Out Of 19)

Only two countries in this part of the world have higher levels of gun violence than the U.S.: Thailand and the Philippines. By contrast, in Japan and Singapore, gun deaths are virtually nonexistent.


Mokdad says many nations in this part of the world are providing young men with a better safety net and more educational opportunities, which might help reduce gun-related violence. "If you have an education and have a future," he says, "there is no reason to belong to a gang or to get a gun."

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Aug 27, 2016 19:58:58   #
Morgan
 
archie bunker wrote:
You are right about the ability to kill, but the Constitution gives me the right to have them. I have never been arrested, haven't had a traffic ticket in over 20 years, and pay my own way. Why should my Constitutional right to own a gun be in dispute?
How do you feel about purging all Muslims from America? Same thing.


I've never been against a right to bare arms, that doesn't mean it has to be a gun. People will try an argue this point, but shouldn't we at all costs try and preserve life. Think of the times unstable people have used a gun only to find out later they can't believe their own actions. Do you know the people at the highest risk for this are soldiers. They come to their senses and find they've shot their spouse or worse. The only legal place for guns in my mind is a battlefield. If you want to hunt make it a real sport and use a bow and arrow.

We have the technology,lets stop this love affair with the gun, stop idolizing it.To say it was not invented to be a weapon is disingenuous, of course it was, a weapon is used for protection but that doesn't make it any less lethal.

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Aug 27, 2016 20:21:35   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
What gun(s) is not made to injure? This should be interesting


What knife isn't made to cut?

None of my guns have ever hurt a person.

I did nick my finger with a streak knife once. Thus, so far, the knives have been more dangerous than the guns.

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Aug 27, 2016 20:22:14   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
What gun(s) is not made to injure? This should be interesting


Guns are not made to injure. They are made to shoot a lead projectile. That's it. The injury part comes into play when someone with ill intent picks one up and uses it.

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Aug 27, 2016 20:26:40   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
The sole purpose of my cancer policy only comes to play if I get cancer. According to numbnuts, that means I intend to get cancer.

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Aug 27, 2016 20:26:41   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
That doesn't have to do with what we're talking about. Back up your comment with some stats.


It has everything to do with it. Guns do not kill people. A gun is incapable of acting on it's own. People die from guns because someone points it at someone else and pulls the trigger. And the facts you ask for are self evident. Look at the FBI crime statistics. Blacks are responsible for half of all murders and about 90 percent of violent crime. Those are the facts. Can you refute them? Get rid of those black punks and the murder rate will be cut in half. That's a fact.

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Aug 27, 2016 20:32:03   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
I see a connection with inner cities and violence, which has always been as far as violent crimes maybe we should look at who is committing them.

The average violent crime rate (murder, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault) in 2008 for the 28 states that voted for Barack Obama in the 2008 Presidential election was 389 incidents per 100,000 residents. The average violent crime rate for the 22 states that voted for John McCain was 412 incidents per 100,000 residents – or a 5.8 percent higher incidence of violent crime.

Which means the republican majority states are more violent. Go figure.
I see a connection with inner cities and violence,... (show quote)


You idiot. You cannot go by the state level, since the vast majority of violent crime takes place in major cities. And almost every one of those cities have large black populations, and have been run by democrats for several decades. Violent crime in major cities have two things in common. Democrats, and blacks.

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Aug 27, 2016 20:33:50   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
Arch I've heard that argument before, but here's the thing, Guns are a whole lot easier to kill a whole lot more people in a whole lot less time. See the difference. This is why soldiers use them and aren't going around with spears and bow & arrows.


Guns are also the best way to protect yourself. So, why do you want to take them away?

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Aug 27, 2016 20:36:19   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Morgan wrote:
REALLY...

Also the people doing the constant bitching and whining are you fearful gun fanatics that buy into "they're coming to take your gun" hoohoohee hee haa haa, Well where has that even come close to happening, it's all a ploy...Geeeezzz
REALLY... br br Also the people doing the constan... (show quote)


Once again, the majority of those murders occur in major cities, with large black populations, and run by democrats. Over 300,000,000 guns in America. It's really amazing that the death toll is so low.

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