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Dec 21, 2013 08:19:50   #
Liberty Tree
 
Glaucon wrote:
Both Karl and Jesus would be proud of him. Burney Madoff, not so much.


Jesus and Karl Marx had nothing in common.

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Dec 21, 2013 08:34:08   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Mark 10:21 "Go sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in Heaven" Jesus


Liberty Tree wrote:
Jesus and Karl Marx had nothing in common.

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Dec 21, 2013 11:06:38   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
People have forgotten it seems, how the Japanese treated American civilians in concentration camps during WWII. Bataan death march-ring a bell? Civilians and military from America, Phillipines, Australia and other country's walked for miles and were killed, shot, bayoneted, beat, be-headed,starved and left on the side of the road to die in the name of the Emperor. My Grandfather was one of the few survivors of this.
This is only one example of the horrific injustices by the Imperial forces of Japan during WWII. My question is-could this atrocity happen again? It has(Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Congo, Serbia, and the list goes on. And now we see things in America that are the precursor to this here. The Government forcing people to buy medical insurance they can't afford or don't want. The government squashing religious freedom, gun registry, the gun confiscation at some time, Out of control Senate and President ignoring the Constitution, spying on the masses, and the list just continues to grow. Whats next? Public floggings, beheadinds, hangings all in the name of progress(Progressiveness)?
So you see, America is no different than any other country in the world, except in that we tend to analyze things to our own way of acceptance. If American people lose our Constitution and Bill of Rights, we lose America!
"Si vis pakem, para bellum!"
God bless the USA and please forgive the Democrats
People have forgotten it seems, how the Japanese t... (show quote)


The U.S. don't suppose to force anybody to buy Medical Ins. The U.S.A. as a leader of the Free World suppose to provide Universal Medical Care single payer FREE for all American regardless the income, Medical Care is a human right not a privilege for the wealthiest and members of U.S. Congress, Federal, States, and City governments only.

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Dec 21, 2013 11:19:07   #
carolyn
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Carolyn tell us all exactly what date in history did the government decide to stop teaching history as it happened?
Sounds like another one of those lies told constantly by Fox News!


I can't find anything about when history was stopped being taught as it happened, but I did find the date that a history book was compiled and published by a known Communist that is now required reading in some high schools and colleges.

The website for this is:
www.eagleforum.org/psr/2010/nov10/psrnov10.html

This was introduced into schools during the Carter administration and evidently has continued ever since. And this is an unpardonable event, no matter which party has been in power during these 33 years that this book has been in our schools. Is there any wonder our young are falling for the Communist and Socialist propaganda?

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Dec 21, 2013 11:32:32   #
carolyn
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
The U.S. don't suppose to force anybody to buy Medical Ins. The U.S.A. as a leader of the Free World suppose to provide Universal Medical Care single payer FREE for all American regardless the income, Medical Care is a human right not a privilege for the wealthiest and members of U.S. Congress, Federal, States, and City governments only.


I agree that, according to our constitution, it is against our constitutional laws to force the people to buy anything. But that is as far as it goes. I don't know where you get it that just because we were once the leader of the free world, we were required to furnish medical insurance free to anyone. Medical insurance is not a right to be furnished free of charge. It is a right of BUYING insurance of choice, but there is nowhere in any of our legal writs signed by our forefathers that states free health insurance is an unalienable right.

This is one post you are definitely wrong on.

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Dec 21, 2013 11:43:37   #
Glaucon
 
carolyn wrote:
I agree that, according to our constitution, it is against our constitutional laws to force the people to buy anything. But that is as far as it goes. I don't know where you get it that just because we were once the leader of the free world, we were required to furnish medical insurance free to anyone. Medical insurance is not a right to be furnished free of charge. It is a right of BUYING insurance of choice, but there is nowhere in any of our legal writs signed by our forefathers that states free health insurance is an unalienable right.

This is one post you are definitely wrong on.
I agree that, according to our constitution, it is... (show quote)


I think the point is, do we want all Americans to have access to affordable, quality health care? We get tied up with accepting Obamacare or fighting it, but the real question is, should we provide some level of health care for all Americans whether or not they are able to pay for it now.

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Dec 21, 2013 11:59:44   #
Glaucon
 
carolyn wrote:
I can't find anything about when history was stopped being taught as it happened, but I did find the date that a history book was compiled and published by a known Communist that is now required reading in some high schools and colleges.

The website for this is:
www.eagleforum.org/psr/2010/nov10/psrnov10.html

This was introduced into schools during the Carter administration and evidently has continued ever since. And this is an unpardonable event, no matter which party has been in power during these 33 years that this book has been in our schools. Is there any wonder our young are falling for the Communist and Socialist propaganda?
I can't find anything about when history was stopp... (show quote)


Carolyn

Zinn's book is great and every American should read it. It is an interpretation of United States history that adds to what the usual texts provide so that students know "the rest of the story." It is not revealed truth, it is not a bible, it is flawed in some way as are all history books.

I know one thing for absolutely sure and that is that Carolyn has not and will not read this book. That is an example of group think. Let me predict that Carolyn will either ignore this comment, respond with some form of "You too, call me a name, make a joke of it, distract from it by commenting on something else. or go completely off on an "old geezer" kind of complete separation from reality. Guess which one it will be.

If you haven't done so yet, I highly recommend the Eagle Forum site she cited. Make up your own mind.

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Dec 21, 2013 12:02:48   #
Glaucon
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Jesus and Karl Marx had nothing in common.


They have one very obvious thing in common: You know absolutely nothing about either of them.

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Dec 21, 2013 12:14:08   #
carolyn
 
Glaucon wrote:
I think the point is, do we want all Americans to have access to affordable, quality health care? We get tied up with accepting Obamacare or fighting it, but the real question is, should we provide some level of health care for all Americans whether or not they are able to pay for it now.


What happened when healthcare insurance was not the moneymaker it now seems to be? Can anyone remember back to the 1960's and before when one went to the doctor and paid out of pocket for no more than 5 or 6 dollars? Then came the infamous free medical card that caused cost of a doctor's visit to jump thousands of percent for the very same service. This helped a very few that did not want to part with the few dollars a doctor's visit cost, but it certainly hurt many more by forcing them to buy insurance that cost them much more each month just for having this insurance. But has anyone ever seen a "brilliant idea" that the government has ever had that did not come to failure?

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Dec 21, 2013 12:29:56   #
Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
carolyn wrote:
I agree that, according to our constitution, it is against our constitutional laws to force the people to buy anything. But that is as far as it goes. I don't know where you get it that just because we were once the leader of the free world, we were required to furnish medical insurance free to anyone. Medical insurance is not a right to be furnished free of charge. It is a right of BUYING insurance of choice, but there is nowhere in any of our legal writs signed by our forefathers that states free health insurance is an unalienable right.

This is one post you are definitely wrong on.
I agree that, according to our constitution, it is... (show quote)


A lot of what the Feds do is not part of the Constitution. Schools (which are thought to be some of the worse in the "civilized world".), the Federal Reserve (which has people controlling a lot to do with the value of the dollar and is run by unelected "authorities".), the IRS (no comment fore this one needed), and so on and so on. I can not think of one that is good, but the people all accept them, and Obamacare is the latest a addition.

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Dec 21, 2013 12:30:53   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
The url you posted is invalid as your statement!


carolyn wrote:
I can't find anything about when history was stopped being taught as it happened, but I did find the date that a history book was compiled and published by a known Communist that is now required reading in some high schools and colleges.

The website for this is:
www.eagleforum.org/psr/2010/nov10/psrnov10.html

This was introduced into schools during the Carter administration and evidently has continued ever since. And this is an unpardonable event, no matter which party has been in power during these 33 years that this book has been in our schools. Is there any wonder our young are falling for the Communist and Socialist propaganda?
I can't find anything about when history was stopp... (show quote)

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Dec 21, 2013 12:32:42   #
carolyn
 
Glaucon wrote:
Carolyn

Zinn's book is great and every American should read it. It is an interpretation of United States history that adds to what the usual texts provide so that students know "the rest of the story." It is not revealed truth, it is not a bible, it is flawed in some way as are all history books.

I know one thing for absolutely sure and that is that Carolyn has not and will not read this book. That is an example of group think. Let me predict that Carolyn will either ignore this comment, respond with some form of "You too, call me a name, make a joke of it, distract from it by commenting on something else. or go completely off on an "old geezer" kind of complete separation from reality. Guess which one it will be.

If you haven't done so yet, I highly recommend the Eagle Forum site she cited. Make up your own mind.
Carolyn br br Zinn's book is great and every Amer... (show quote)


For God's sake, this book is already classified as a work of Communist propaganda, and is already well established in our schools as a teaching aid. Was it Karl Marx that said all one had to do was concentrate on the young to eventually get the people to accept their ideas?

You are right on one accord. I will never read this book and will never knowingly allow anyone that reads it in my house.

Howard Zinn was a long time card carrying Communist member and you say his book is his own interpretation of history and should be read by everyone ? With that statement, sir, you have admitted to me that you are a communist and more than likely a communist with some renown within the American Communist party itself. Please do not correspond with me ever again because I loath you and what you stand for. You are no more an American than the POS president that you love so much.

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Dec 21, 2013 12:46:55   #
carolyn
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
The url you posted is invalid as your statement!


What do you mean my url is invalid? Can't you find it to bring it up? That is funny because I tried it again and I had no trouble bringing it up. So why don't you explain your asinine comment that the url is invalid?

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Dec 21, 2013 13:09:34   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Finally after I have to copy and paste it my self. Zinn's book is considered to be not only accurate but the most honest account of US History! Just because it is not in line with your muddled conception of history, does not mean our children should be confused as you are!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People%27s_History_of_the_United_States

Copy And Paste!



carolyn wrote:
What do you mean my url is invalid? Can't you find it to bring it up? That is funny because I tried it again and I had no trouble bringing it up. So why don't you explain your asinine comment that the url is invalid?

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Dec 21, 2013 13:21:45   #
carolyn
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Finally after I have to copy and paste it my self. Zinn's book is considered to be not only accurate but the most honest account of US History! Just because it is not in line with your muddled conception of history, does not mean our children should be confused as you are!


It is considered by people who are far wiser than what you claim to be to be nothing more than a communist manifesto. And don't tell me you read this book, as another democrat loudmouth said he had. You people would much rather tell a lie than tell the truth. Is this trend to naturally lie in your gene's, or is it just that you want to be as near alike to your idol president as you can possibly get?

I cannot believe that either of you expect the rest on this website to believe you actually read this book before I brought it up. You Democrats are so predictable.

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