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Dec 8, 2013 19:16:35   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Aha! Ginnyt, this should be on one of those ancient alien episodes where they are influencing history by tracking leaders during travel. I've got to admit, like you, I get attracted to the story but then after hearing the ancient alien theorist give their explanation I realize that it is going nowhere. Then I fall asleep before the end of the show. And I keep doing it hoping there will be something but there never is. I guess that's entertainment, hearing the intriguing promo and wondering how could they come up with that explanation? Then, after seeing it, you,re like, "wow, they are really stretching creative thought, big-time". It's all fun and the one theorist has that crazy hairdo.
Aha! Ginnyt, this should be on one of those ancie... (show quote)


You are talking about Georgio; I just love him! He has some of the most bizarre ideas. His one claim that we are actually test tube kids of aliens...just makes me laugh. But, then there is the armada written about in Sanskrit, now I had to go back to the original texts and read about the flying saucers. I can almost see his point. But, then reality sets in and I am back to "what a great imagination."

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Dec 8, 2013 19:33:40   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Lol - that show is a lot of fun. It's the type of show that you need someone to talk about with so you can say, "Is it just me or are they missing this one sane point?"

ginnyt wrote:
You are talking about Georgio; I just love him! He has some of the most bizarre ideas. His one claim that we are actually test tube kids of aliens...just makes me laugh. But, then there is the armada written about in Sanskrit, now I had to go back to the original texts and read about the flying saucers. I can almost see his point. But, then reality sets in and I am back to "what a great imagination."

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Dec 8, 2013 19:36:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
ginnyt wrote:
I can name 10 right off the top of my head, how many can you name for Obama?

1. Ending the Cold War: The Cold War had raged since World War II and communism‘s quest for world domination remained an existential threat to the United States when President Reagan took office. Reagan reversed the policy of detente and stood firm against the Soviet Union, calling it the Evil Empire and telling Mikhail Gorbachev to “tear down this wall” in Berlin. He was relentless in pushing his Strategic Defense Initiative and gave aid to rebels battling Soviet-backed Marxists from Nicaragua to Angola. Those efforts were critical in the ultimate collapse of the Soviet empire and essentially ended the Cold War.

2. Reaganomics: Reagan’s mix of across-the-board tax cuts, deregulation, and domestic spending restraint helped fuel an economic boom that lasted two decades. Reagan inherited a misery index (the sum of the inflation and unemployment rates) of 19.99%, and when he left office it had dropped to 9.72%. President Obama take note: Under Reaganomics, 16 million new jobs were created.

3. Revitalizing the GOP and the conservative movement: The Republican Party was at its nadir after Watergate, but Reagan was able to form a winning coalition of fiscal conservatives, family-values voters, blue-collar Reagan Democrats and neo-conservative intellectuals and set the stage for future GOP electoral gains. His free-market, small-government, pro-liberty conservatism helped to revitalize the GOP and his influence resonates today as conservative candidates still invoke Reagan as their standard-bearer.

4. Peace through Strength: The military was diminished during the Carter years, but Reagan reversed that by rebuilding the armed forces. His Peace Through Strength philosophy was manifested by his reviving the B-1 bomber that Carter canceled, starting production of the MX missile, and pushing NATO to deploy Pershing missiles in West Germany. He increased defense spending by more than 40%, increased troop levels, and even got much-needed space parts into the pipeline. Those efforts ensured that America remained a military superpower.

5. Morning in America: It was basically a slogan for Reagan’s 1984 reelection bid, but Morning in America symbolized a new beginning for the country. Reagan’s jaunty optimism and an economic boom was a much-needed tonic for a country that had experienced the malaise of the Carter years and the traumas of Watergate and Vietnam.

6. Star Wars: Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative was derided by his opponents as being technologically unfeasible, but the mere threat of the U.S. building the system was instrumental in the Soviet Union’s collapse. The successful use of Patriot missile batteries in the first Gulf War proved the critics wrong, and the missile defense system that ensued has lessened the threat of ballistic missiles.

7. Nuclear weapons cuts: Even as massive demonstrations were held in Europe against Reagan’s hawkish stance on nuclear arms, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty he signed with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev eliminated an entire class of nuclear weapons. He also laid the framework with Gorbachev for the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), which reduced both countries’ arsenals of nuclear weapons.

8. Voiced values: Reagan gave voice to the values that had served America well—thrift, patriotism, and hard work—and often recounted the wisdom of the Founding Fathers. He also championed the causes of the pro-life and family-values movements that sought to counter the societal upheavals of the 1960s and 1970s.

9. Tax reform: Not only did he cut tax rates, but the Tax Reform Act of 1986 simplified the income-tax code by eliminating many tax shelters, reducing the number of deductions and tax brackets. Reagan’s dream of tax returns fitting on a postcard has been nullified as Congress has regressed and continued to make the tax code more complex, necessitating a new push for reform.

10. Taking on PATCO: Early in his administration, members of the federal air traffic controllers union (PATCO) went on strike, violating a federal regulation. Declaring the strike a “peril to national safety,” Reagan gave the workers an ultimatum and ended up firing more than 11,000 of the controllers, sending a strong signal that union workers needn’t be coddled.
I can name 10 right off the top of my head, how ma... (show quote)


A B actor With good PR became an A spokesman for the Right Wing. A lot of hot air that those that supported him wanted to hear.

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Dec 8, 2013 19:38:21   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Lol - that show is a lot of fun. It's the type of show that you need someone to talk about with so you can say, "Is it just me or are they missing this one sane point?"


You are so right. But, my cat actually thinks that it all makes perfect sense, while I tell him (Boot) that he has gone daft! The recent one about Easter Island and "floating" the heads in place. Hello..... how can that be done?

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Dec 8, 2013 19:42:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
A B actor With good PR became an A spokesman for the Right Wing. A lot of hot air that those that supported him wanted to hear.


Well, he did have the Hollywood thing going and he was an excellent orator. That is two up from the hot air filled Obama who has a history of pot smoking and affiliation with socialist party and when he opens his mouth he is not being entirely truthful. If given a choice, I will take President Regan.

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Dec 8, 2013 19:45:43   #
Richard94611
 
Interesting way of evaluating legislation -- based on how much or how little opposition it received, rather than the quality and moral fiber of the legislation itself.

The Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Bill received overwhelming Congressional approval, as evidence by the fact that it was passed over Reagan's veto.


DennisDee wrote:
Obama's list is pathetic and filled with exaggeration and items every President does like appointing people to the Supreme Court. What makes Reagan's accomplishments even greater is he had a Dem Congress unlike Obama who had Pelosi and a Super Majority in Senate for almost a year

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Dec 8, 2013 19:46:52   #
Richard94611
 
Good that you don't have a choice.


ginnyt wrote:
Well, he did have the Hollywood thing going and he was an excellent orator. That is two up from the hot air filled Obama who has a history of pot smoking and affiliation with socialist party and when he opens his mouth he is not being entirely truthful. If given a choice, I will take President Regan.

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Dec 8, 2013 19:47:17   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Interesting way of evaluating legislation -- based on how much or how little opposition it received, rather than the quality and moral fiber of the legislation itself.

The Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Bill received overwhelming Congressional approval, as evidence by the fact that it was passed over Reagan's veto.


And how did Obamacare get passed?

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Dec 8, 2013 19:56:20   #
VladimirPee
 
Won 49 states

Floyd Brown wrote:
A B actor With good PR became an A spokesman for the Right Wing. A lot of hot air that those that supported him wanted to hear.

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Dec 8, 2013 20:09:55   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Good that you don't have a choice.


We do have a choice. When elections come, your demigod will be left with only one thing.....a failed insurance plan. Nothing else to write about in history. He will be the person that sat in the people's WH for years and only caused dissention between races and made promises he never intended to keep and he will be right along side of President "Tricky Dick" Richard Nixon who left in shame. Although, President Nixon after being elected in 1968, traveled to China and also established détente with the USSR. Perhaps his greatest achievement was opening lines of communication and trade with the People's Republic of China. Realizing the time was right for such a move, he sent a representative to secretly consult with the Chinese Premier, Mao Tse Tung, in 1971 and met with him himself in 1972. This diplomatic success amazed the critics. Within weeks of his successful China trip, Nixon was in Moscow negotiating the Strategic Arms Limitations Agreement (SALT) to reduce the chance of nuclear war. Nixon also established links with Egypt and Israel. So, even the most controversial president in modern times did more than Obama.

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Dec 8, 2013 20:14:16   #
Richard94611
 
For the well-being of thousands and thousands -- no, millions -- of Americans, Obama will be known for ObamaCare, and will go down favorably in history. Through his efforts, at least 40,000 lives will be saved each year. His insurance plan will be a success. Time will show this, though you will never admit it. We can argue about this all year on this forum. But I predict that he will be known for the great achievements he has made despite Republican opposition.



ginnyt wrote:
We do have a choice. When elections come, your demigod will be left with only one thing.....a failed insurance plan. Nothing else to write about in history. He will be the person that sat in the people's WH for years and only caused dissention between races and made promises he never intended to keep and he will be right along side of President "Tricky Dick" Richard Nixon who left in shame. Although, President Nixon after being elected in 1968, traveled to China and also established détente with the USSR. Perhaps his greatest achievement was opening lines of communication and trade with the People's Republic of China. Realizing the time was right for such a move, he sent a representative to secretly consult with the Chinese Premier, Mao Tse Tung, in 1971 and met with him himself in 1972. This diplomatic success amazed the critics. Within weeks of his successful China trip, Nixon was in Moscow negotiating the Strategic Arms Limitations Agreement (SALT) to reduce the chance of nuclear war. Nixon also established links with Egypt and Israel. So, even the most controversial president in modern times did more than Obama.
We do have a choice. When elections come, your de... (show quote)

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Dec 8, 2013 20:23:13   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Richard94611 wrote:
For the well-being of thousands and thousands -- no, millions -- of Americans, Obama will be known for ObamaCare, and will go down favorably in history. Through his efforts, at least 40,000 lives will be saved each year. His insurance plan will be a success. Time will show this, though you will never admit it. We can argue about this all year on this forum. But I predict that he will be known for the great achievements he has made despite Republican opposition.


How can it be a success? The back end of the system still does not work! As papa would say "what dreams" now get back to reality. I will not go through the list, just go back to the many topics introduced on the subject; read and learn. Do not be satisfied with what you are told. suffice to say, January 2200 will roll around and Obamacare will be a distant bad memory that the Democrats will have distained themselves from. They have already started abandoning him like rats from a sinking ship. Obama will be one of those less known people that was a blight on history.

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Dec 8, 2013 20:28:00   #
quasimoto63
 
Since Obama's term in office isn't yet over, you can't summarize his complete failure as yet. He's a Marxist committed to the destruction of the USA--yes. Then again, so was Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, LBJ, FDR and a couple others. The only question, of course, assuming our Constitution Republic even survives is JUST HOW BIG a disaster Obama turns out being, and how he was defeated, in the eyes of history.

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Dec 8, 2013 20:30:52   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
quasimoto63 wrote:
Since Obama's term in office isn't yet over, you can't summarize his complete failure as yet. He's a Marxist committed to the destruction of the USA--yes. Then again, so was Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, LBJ, FDR and a couple others. The only question, of course, assuming our Constitution Republic even survives is JUST HOW BIG a disaster Obama turns out being, and how he was defeated, in the eyes of history.


Very true, rather premature on my part!

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Dec 8, 2013 20:34:55   #
VladimirPee
 
For the well being of the few and the detriment of 85% of America. History will not be kind to Obama

Richard94611 wrote:
For the well-being of thousands and thousands -- no, millions -- of Americans, Obama will be known for ObamaCare, and will go down favorably in history. Through his efforts, at least 40,000 lives will be saved each year. His insurance plan will be a success. Time will show this, though you will never admit it. We can argue about this all year on this forum. But I predict that he will be known for the great achievements he has made despite Republican opposition.

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