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Apr 2, 2016 23:52:05   #
Chameleon12
 
Artemis wrote:
It has been proven over and over it is not why to keep the sexes totally isolated (as adults)

Pedophilia is not natural it is a sickness, and very different from homosexuality. Rape is also a sickness and what occurred with the Spartans and more about control.


Which Pedophilia are you referring to, the law version of pedophilia or the psychological version of pedophilia? I would agree with you on the psychological version but, after watching the documentary "Are All Men Pedophiles?", I'm not so sure about the legal version.

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Apr 3, 2016 19:27:08   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Artemis wrote:
It has been proven over and over it is not why to keep the sexes totally isolated (as adults)

Pedophilia is not natural it is a sickness, and very different from homosexuality. Rape is also a sickness and what occurred with the Spartans and more about control.


How can you say same sex behavior is natural, but say that pedophilia and rape are unnatural. Most monkeys and apes have sex with the juveniles of the troupe male and female, no matter whether they want it or not. Forced mating is the normal way of breeding for most cats as well as many hoofed mammals . If your only qualifyer for making something acceptable is that animals do it, you better accept abandonment of offspring killing your children new malls killing young that are not their own as well as lesser crimes such as stealing food,killing siblings, and all the other behaviors that we find abhorrent. If animals do it, it must be fine is just another form of moral relativisn at its most degraded level.

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Apr 13, 2016 19:04:25   #
dwallace2015
 
I would be more in favor of a gene therapy program that one by one go's through a persons genetic structure and replaces any defective or undesirable gene with one that is pure and beneficial. Eventually you should arrive at a human specimen that is "perfect", at least with his own genetic structure. Eventually, if carried to it's logical end, every person on the planet would be at the peak of evolution's ability to perfect an organism. Might take a while at first, the DNA spiral when unwound is very long. Research would at first have to focus on determining what is a genetically perfect gene. I can't think of what they would use for comparison, but then again I am not a geneticist. It would be a very interesting project.




lindajoy wrote:
Pennylynn wrote:
According to the person I was talking to, a neo-surgeon who is a pediatrician, he says that the "cure" is in the final trials and it is 100 percent. It puts a specific gene associated with homosexuality to sleep. And he says that the drug for babies is a inhibitor put directly into the umbilical cord of the forming baby. A one dose shot. They, according to my friend, have been working on this for over 20 years. Allowing primates time to mature and those apes have shown no drug related issues. For mature individuals, it is a series of shots, but in the end the person no longer prefers their own sex. Again, this has been tested on apes and now is starting human trials.
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If it is felt homesexuality is not gene induced so say some, then why a gene suppressor to treat it? Seems almost a conflict of position???

Relative to your question of would I give it to my child to suppress the "potential of such?" No, I would not...One, I would need a lot more data on how it all works and although I noted there are no side effects, I am not sure about that either....Any "foreign substance" that alters the gene pool would appear to have side effects, one way or the other..I guess I need to read up on this Penny, before really being able to reply...I also say no, because I believe in a more holistic approach to medicine..I think we are prescribed far to many medications that mass the symptom only and do not really "treat the issue"...

Interesting facts and I will be doing some more reading on it...Thank You.. :thumbup:
Pennylynn wrote: br According to the person I was ... (show quote)

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Apr 14, 2016 07:41:36   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
dwallace2015 wrote:
I would be more in favor of a gene therapy program that one by one go's through a persons genetic structure and replaces any defective or undesirable gene with one that is pure and beneficial. Eventually you should arrive at a human specimen that is "perfect", at least with his own genetic structure. Eventually, if carried to it's logical end, every person on the planet would be at the peak of evolution's ability to perfect an organism. Might take a while at first, the DNA spiral when unwound is very long. Research would at first have to focus on determining what is a genetically perfect gene. I can't think of what they would use for comparison, but then again I am not a geneticist. It would be a very interesting project.
I would be more in favor of a gene therapy program... (show quote)


An interesting concept for sure....

Wasn't it Hitler that "played" with gene structure trying to alter the genetic structure before?? I'm not sure of this other than remembering he had some sadistic "measures" to rid the world of jews, homosexuals, etc..

A gene or genes' that would ultimately produce a society of "perfect humans" may also produce an "imperfect world of people" in the long run????

If everyone was the same in their perfect being what would we ultimately have left? Would we also loose our individualism, our goal motive and our uniqueness in thought??? It is a very interesting concept that I will agree with........

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Apr 14, 2016 09:55:01   #
JimMe
 
Pennylynn wrote:
According to the person I was talking to, a neo-surgeon who is a pediatrician, he says that the "cure" is in the final trials and it is 100 percent. It puts a specific gene associated with homosexuality to sleep. And he says that the drug for babies is a inhibitor put directly into the umbilical cord of the forming baby. A one dose shot. They, according to my friend, have been working on this for over 20 years. Allowing primates time to mature and those apes have shown no drug related issues. For mature individuals, it is a series of shots, but in the end the person no longer prefers their own sex. Again, this has been tested on apes and now is starting human trials.
According to the person I was talking to, a neo-su... (show quote)



But if an individual's "homosexual gene" is put to sleep would this frustrate the individual?!? Would it allow a gene that causes anger to take the "homosexual gene's" place in the individual's life?!? How would putting ANY gene asleep that affects an individual's behavior to THIS extent change the individual's life?!? GOOD and BAD!?!

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Aug 20, 2016 01:34:14   #
Chameleon12
 
JimMe wrote:
But if an individual's "homosexual gene" is put to sleep would this frustrate the individual?!? Would it allow a gene that causes anger to take the "homosexual gene's" place in the individual's life?!? How would putting ANY gene asleep that affects an individual's behavior to THIS extent change the individual's life?!? GOOD and BAD!?!


No, it would just increase the prominence of the heterosexual gene though, they probably still would have a lower desire than the average person to have such sex. The problem is there is no "homosexual gene". Every gene has been prominently disproved. There are gene's that can increase the likelihood but, even with the highest prominence homosexual gene, only 33% of those individuals are homosexual. The other 66% are heterosexual. The final proof that no hemophilic gene exists is that multiple genetically identical twin brothers have had an occurrence with one being straight and the other being gay. The alcoholic gene is far more prominent. 90% of those with the alcoholic gene who take one drink of alcohol become alcoholics.

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Aug 20, 2016 10:58:56   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Chameleon12 wrote:
No, it would just increase the prominence of the heterosexual gene though, they probably still would have a lower desire than the average person to have such sex. The problem is there is no "homosexual gene". Every gene has been prominently disproved. There are gene's that can increase the likelihood but, even with the highest prominence homosexual gene, only 33% of those individuals are homosexual. The other 66% are heterosexual. The final proof that no hemophilic gene exists is that multiple genetically identical twin brothers have had an occurrence with one being straight and the other being gay. The alcoholic gene is far more prominent. 90% of those with the alcoholic gene who take one drink of alcohol become alcoholics.
No, it would just increase the prominence of the h... (show quote)


What does hemophilia (hemophilic) have to do with homosexuality. You are correct that genes seem to have no influence on sexual preferences, and that a large number of people, particularly young teenage boys go through a period of same sex attraction (usually not acted on) but are heterosexual, opposite sex attracted as adults indicates that sexual attraction is not primarily a genetic driven behavior. Even epigenetic studies can not find any significant influence in the possibility of genes being turned on or off as the basis for same sex attraction. However, I have seen studies that indicate that children raised by same sex parents of the same sex as the child have a higher rate of same sex attraction, but it is not a forgone conclusion that they will be same sex attracted even then.

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Aug 20, 2016 12:07:34   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
no propaganda please wrote:
What does hemophilia (hemophilic) have to do with homosexuality. You are correct that genes seem to have no influence on sexual preferences, and that a large number of people, particularly young teenage boys go through a period of same sex attraction (usually not acted on) but are heterosexual, opposite sex attracted as adults indicates that sexual attraction is not primarily a genetic driven behavior. Even epigenetic studies can not find any significant influence in the possibility of genes being turned on or off as the basis for same sex attraction. However, I have seen studies that indicate that children raised by same sex parents of the same sex as the child have a higher rate of same sex attraction, but it is not a forgone conclusion that they will be same sex attracted even then.
What does hemophilia (hemophilic) have to do with ... (show quote)


Is it then not possible for that early on same sex attraction to reappear as an adult?? Where it is now acted on??

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Nov 13, 2016 00:46:17   #
Chameleon12
 
no propaganda please wrote:
What does hemophilia (hemophilic) have to do with homosexuality. You are correct that genes seem to have no influence on sexual preferences, and that a large number of people, particularly young teenage boys go through a period of same sex attraction (usually not acted on) but are heterosexual, opposite sex attracted as adults indicates that sexual attraction is not primarily a genetic driven behavior. Even epigenetic studies can not find any significant influence in the possibility of genes being turned on or off as the basis for same sex attraction. However, I have seen studies that indicate that children raised by same sex parents of the same sex as the child have a higher rate of same sex attraction, but it is not a forgone conclusion that they will be same sex attracted even then.
What does hemophilia (hemophilic) have to do with ... (show quote)


That was a typo. Homophillic

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