Elwood Loc: Florida

Not at all. They should be delighted to go back to their homeland and visit with the descendants who shipped their descendants (the ones not smart enough to escape capture by neighboring tribes) to America. :twisted:

Ray--Nashua NH Loc: NASHUA NH

KEEP THESE PEOPLE FOR SURE- DEPORT THE SO CALLED MIDDLE EAST CLAN OF FOLKS--

markinny

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DamnYANKEE

Now THERES a Plan . SEND'EM PACKIN . Back to AFRICOON COUNTRY :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

ConnorShields69 Loc: Here

Oh man, I got to have that picture!
Now that just defines it all ! :lol: :thumbup:

Got to learn to post pictures here myself.Got a few you might enjoy.

Artemis

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Artemis

~It is not that simple, we are products of our up-bringing and environment, which unchanged goes from generation to generation, sin of the father and all that.

Don't just look at statistics from black households, look at it with alcohol, physical abuse, sexual abuse, drug abuse and the chances of the children carrying it forward, the percentages are very high.

People bark about social programs, but the only way to cure these conditions is to begin with the children and changing their environments.

To invest in all of our youth is to prevent them from being a drain on society in the future, rather have them become productive citizens. We are only as strong as out weakest link, something to think about when we think of the cost of imprisoning people.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Pretty easy, put your pics where you can retrieve them easily, when you hit quot reply you will see a place below your message to choose file, hit that and choose the pic you want to add to your message hit send and BAM!, there it is

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I have to disagree with some of that, unless we are in a place where unicorns and care bears are mating, social programs are a huge failure if we do not address the influence aspect of this..generation after generation are still doing the same thing, and we keep throwing more tax dollars at it...why? It gets worse every generation with more added to the programs. All the programs and money will not fix anything untill you kill of what is influencing the youth to stay in that cycle. One only needs to go back 4 generations and see success without these programs...again, why?

Artemis

That is fine you disagree I think when you're not brought up in a situation it is hard to relate and understand the full impact. I don't know of your upbringing but it appears you were raised in a one healthy enough for you to become a success and that is in no way minimizing your own efforts and perseverance.

But can you really relate to a person being black... a wife beating absentee father, a drug induced whore of a mother who never cares for you and you survive almost completely on you own, in a violent drug saturated community? Love? Where? probably the child for the mother. Can you really relate? That's what I call being behind the eight ball. But these are the conditions for many and not just black.

Now what if that child has the opportunity to be in a program, such as the head start program, is shown caring and appreciation, is taught not only lessons, but self appreciation, self worth and respect.

Do you know what children lack from the get go... who are of these conditions? It is a lack of self worth. Is that not a sin in itself when you see a beautiful young toddler who is just embarking on their own discovery of who they are? They are soft pliable individuals that should be handled with great care.

If this is done we will not be paying for their living in a prison for the rest of their life as repeat offenders, instead they would be contributing self reliant citizens. This does work WW it really does.

ConnorShields69 Loc: Here

Thank you, I will try it. Does seem easier when explained by you than the instructions here. :thumbup:

ConnorShields69 Loc: Here

I disagree with the whole premise as outlined.

There have been programs after programs for the less fortunate to advance their standards and living conditions. Most simply are content to live with what they live. Don't complete training programs, don't bother getting work, living off the programs, food stamps, wick, housing, even phones and cash assistance. Not required to complete anything, just show up..A body in other words.

Was a time people were limited, needed help and while some do, the elderly, left to die, the family where the job is lost, short term help needed etc, most take advantage, stay pregnant for that cash assistance, housing etc.

Motivation starts at home.The excuse there's no one around to push them is BS. They see what they are living or could be living and look what they do instead.Back to motivation, responsibility of self worth and wanting better. They don't.

My girlfriend is a social worker/probation officer, many times tried to get the young one in the household to at least go to this place or that one for work, training, etc. Can I tell you how many did? Not one. Even when part of SENTENCING, they shrug it off, don't even go and then blame the system prejudiced SOB that we are. My reply, BS.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

You are correct, i was not born into those situations, and i have made decisions in life that would not send me down that road.

I would agree some programs are beneficial, but the core of the problem id not being addressed, it is much easier to see what the problems are from the outside as i am not one of the issues, and not part of the perpetuation of said problems..and there is the issue, the problem cannot fix the problem...especially when the chain is not being broken, you can send all you want to these programs, but in the end they go right back to the bigger influece in their lives...the original perpetual problem, the family itself. Change is being thrusted upon others by those who are not subject to the problem, and that in itself is a problem....untill they want to change, there will be none, and it is apparent self change is not wanted after decades of trying. Hundreds of programs are not the fix when only 3 or 4 actually do any good other than buying votes and makeing a segment of society feel good about themselves.
People will not learn a self worth by giving them things not earned on their own, and self respect is not given through a government program. This only creates a dependancy and illusion of living, while creating a side of society that feels the other side is wasting money, and creating animosity towards the dependant side creating a huge division among people..

Cut programs...many of them, put the money towards building the communities where these issues are rampant ( most building in these areas are from outside contractors) make these dependants give up the gov support in return for work in their cities....a job will do far more than programs, and give a sense of self worth....but several generations of living on gov dole becomes the norm and is accepted as such. While working you will have less time to sit around getting drunk, doing drugs, getting in trouble, making uncared for children, criminal activity and a whole host of other issues that have created the original problem. Idle people do nothing but create problems for others, this is a fairly easy fix, but will not bring votes. ..but will fix a generation to show the next.

RWNJ

I assume you're using windows. Here is a brief tutorial.

First, you have to find the picture you want to post. You can use Google, or any other search engine

Right click on the Image you want, then select "save image as..."

This will bring up a directory. Check the left hand margin to make sure the pictures folder is selected.

Name the image, then click save.

Now, look towards the bottom of this post. You'll see where it says files pictures and attachments. Not this post. You'll only see when you're editing a post.

Click on choose file. That will bring up your pictures folder. Find the picture you just saved, then double click it.

That's it. You're done.

Just hit the send button, or add another picture.

Artemis

I think you may be missing what I'm saying Wil, I'm talking about children, and this would be doing the exact opposite of having them becoming codependent of the government. This would be teaching them to reach for success and to better themselves. In order to break the chain you have to break the condition. You have to teach them there is a better way than following there parents footsteps.

What I believe you are saying about the doling out money to communities is much of what has happened and yes in some instances has failed.
But when you grow the seedling with good influence they will instinctively take hold and grow strong. It has already has been proven where schools with older children have made positive life changes under good instruction and supervision, and have become successful. For example look at some areas in Harlem, NY. major changes have taken place.

I agree with you completely having people work, not only to be self sufficient but for a feeling of self pride and dignity. But working with people who are habitually addicted is not so easy, as they are very unreliable and unstable no matter how hard they were to try. They would have to repair themselves first and the stats on that are very low.