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May 8, 2013 19:53:50   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
donc711 wrote:
Well yes your correct about all that. I was just expressing an opinion as to what homosexuals ought to try doing and leave everybody elses life style alone. Why should anyone who opposes the homosexual life style be bothered with having to associate with them. Especially if the life style is an afront to someone. Seems like we are forced to cow tau to everyother social structure we find offensive and this is just one more of the same.


Who are you talking to and what about? Use the quote reply please. You don't have to associate with anyone who you don't wish to associate with.Offended? Your problem. Get over it or crawl back under a rock.

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May 8, 2013 20:00:39   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Hora wrote:
That is not correct, only liberals approve what is wrong,70% was said dem-liberals, but a real are conservatives are more who liberals and conservatives NOT approve.Dem liberals release a false info and number and many believe.In a normal life marriage are man and woman that is not question. Homosexual are peoples with mental problem not normal and can't understand what is wrong or right.All word plants and animals are male and female that how working all.Supreme Court must declare homosexual mental sick and send to Hospital mental for treat. A worse homosexual have is won force all another thing how homosexual thing not respect nothing. See how homosexual activist use a pure violence for try impose what is wrong. Why not accept have all in private life and in public show how must show? 40% of American suffer mental problem, and Not only homosexual many another said murder are normal, Law not exist, all types of crimes are normal. Now when some one broke a Law? what we doing? punish. When some one are sick go to Hospital, why not homosexuals?
That is not correct, only liberals approve what is... (show quote)



Is English your first language? What is your diagnosis? Some sort of mental problem for sure

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May 8, 2013 20:11:12   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Dave wrote:
Once again would state that you either have standards as regards to recognizing marriage or you don't. If the standard you have is it be between consenting adults, then all forms of such relationships should be granted equal status - that is marriage between consenting adults regardless of their number or even their relationship.

Those who support gay marriage stay far away from this discussion - wonder why?


TWO consenting adults and I'm NOT staying away. I will continue to call you on your bull sh*t

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May 8, 2013 20:13:41   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
TheChardo wrote:
TWO consenting adults and I'm NOT staying away. I will continue to call you on your bull sh*t


define: adult

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May 8, 2013 20:15:37   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
define: adult


As per state law....cut the crap already

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May 8, 2013 20:17:47   #
donc711 Loc: North East Kansas
 
Whose offended? Just haappens I have a very good friend who is gay and even he agrees with me. So go get some anger management treatment. I thought we could express our opinions here without being called names. Grow up.

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May 8, 2013 20:24:32   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
donc711 wrote:
Whose offended? Just haappens I have a very good friend who is gay and even he agrees with me. So go get some anger management treatment. I thought we could express our opinions here without being called names. Grow up.


You have a gay friend who agrees with your proposal for dealing with same sex marriage. Having trouble believing that. Yes I'm angry but its appropriately directed. I don't need to manage that.

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May 8, 2013 20:31:00   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
TheChardo wrote:
As per state law....cut the crap already


per state law is what you wish to change. Therefore it is reasonable to seek a definite response.

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May 8, 2013 20:47:40   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
TheChardo wrote:
This is a good example of whats so aggravating about you. You keep harping on the same old vapid talking points. GAYS DON"T WANT POLYGAMY , THEY DON"T WANT ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR HETROS! You accuse me of running away...I'm just tired of the bullshit.

Have I heard of polygamy?? Have you heard Polyamory....a committed couple who has a ongoing sexual relationship with other couples? Have you ever heard of swinging? kind of the same thing but more casual, without any commitment? Been there, done that, still doing it with the WOMAN who I've been
married to for 23 years. Can you even get your head around that? What have you ever done? Can you even have sex with the lights on? Sh*t ...do you have sex? And what does any of this have to do with gay marriage? NOTHING! Because it's not what most people do, straight gay or whatever. You are truly a moron! I know you guys will have a ball with this. Let the shit storm begin!
This is a good example of whats so aggravating abo... (show quote)


Don't you think that when someone keeps harping on the same talking points, its because they are still valid?

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May 9, 2013 00:14:34   #
Ricktloml
 
Morals do matter, without a moral foundation this nation will crumble just like others who have lost their moral compass. Yes there is an agenda,and an all out assault on traditional values. The left has been defining deviancy further and further down for over 50 years. The goal is socialism which won't be accepted in a society where there is a high regard for morals,a strong family, and faith in God. All these things have to be ridiculed and destroyed in order for society to be shoved to the left. The schools are the indoctrination places where this has happened, because parents blindly thought public school was like it used to be 50 years ago. And it's all based on lies, because the left can't move their agenda forward with the truth

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May 9, 2013 00:23:03   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Morals do matter, without a moral foundation this nation will crumble just like others who have lost their moral compass. Yes there is an agenda,and an all out assault on traditional values. The left has been defining deviancy further and further down for over 50 years. The goal is socialism which won't be accepted in a society where there is a high regard for morals,a strong family, and faith in God. All these things have to be ridiculed and destroyed in order for society to be shoved to the left. The schools are the indoctrination places where this has happened, because parents blindly thought public school was like it used to be 50 years ago. And it's all based on lies, because the left can't move their agenda forward with the truth
Morals do matter, without a moral foundation this ... (show quote)


Too much truth will always make progressives scream in pain. As far as morals are concerned, look at how many single mothers we have running around these days. Too many morals have gone down the chute with all that progressively.

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May 9, 2013 02:17:18   #
Mac Daddy Loc: Southern Arizona
 
The dominant noise culture rejects critical thinking. "Gay Marriage is Only Fair" my daughter once told me. She voted for BHO and is a High School teacher who went from High School to College and straight back to High School. She believes herself to be very well educated and she informed me that whenever there is a consensus of thought, it must be true. Global warming for example and the "consensus" that racism comes only from the political Right. Facts fail her. Logic fails her. Simple examples of her folly cannot penetrate her self-woven cocoon. I asked her what was 'fair' about ignoring Natural Law. She immediately jumped to the wrong conclusion and after a few minutes of her bickering about sexual organs and their so called natural uses, I was able to regain the conversation and state that Natural Law is self-evident and requires no government. Marriage is not about sex. Marriage reinforces self-evidence such as a married couple having a child thus genetically binding every member of the parent's families to the child. Good Law supports what is already self evident Natural Law. Homosexual marriage requires government intervention to force families to merge where there is no Natural Law. Why? Because two men won't use their sexual organs for sex as they're designed and wish to kiss in public? I might as well have been talking to my dog.

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May 9, 2013 06:55:29   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Navysnipe wrote:
Don't you think that when someone keeps harping on the same talking points, its because they are still valid?


No, its because he is desperate and pathetic.

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May 9, 2013 08:48:06   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Mac Daddy wrote:
The dominant noise culture rejects critical thinking. "Gay Marriage is Only Fair" my daughter once told me. She voted for BHO and is a High School teacher who went from High School to College and straight back to High School. She believes herself to be very well educated and she informed me that whenever there is a consensus of thought, it must be true. Global warming for example and the "consensus" that racism comes only from the political Right. Facts fail her. Logic fails her. Simple examples of her folly cannot penetrate her self-woven cocoon. I asked her what was 'fair' about ignoring Natural Law. She immediately jumped to the wrong conclusion and after a few minutes of her bickering about sexual organs and their so called natural uses, I was able to regain the conversation and state that Natural Law is self-evident and requires no government. Marriage is not about sex. Marriage reinforces self-evidence such as a married couple having a child thus genetically binding every member of the parent's families to the child. Good Law supports what is already self evident Natural Law. Homosexual marriage requires government intervention to force families to merge where there is no Natural Law. Why? Because two men won't use their sexual organs for sex as they're designed and wish to kiss in public? I might as well have been talking to my dog.
The dominant noise culture rejects critical thinki... (show quote)


Gay marriage, ( I prefer the term marriage equality) does not require government intervention any more, or less that heterosexual marriage. It is government intervention that is defining marriage as being one man and one woman. Why is it that conservatives rail against big government, intrusive government in all areas of life and society except when it comes to the most private and personal matters.? You say that gay marriage “will force families to merge……” Really ? How will it force anybody to do anything?

You speak of natural law. You say the “good law” supports natural law. What is natural law? Natural law relates to that which is human nature. Human nature is what humans tend to do independently of lay and culture. Homosexuality has been part of the human experience for all of recorded time, and is therefore a natural form of bonding and sexual expression along a continuum of sexuality.

Know also that as with biological evolution, society evolves. You speak of the ability to have children, but that is no longer a pressing issue or even the primary reason for marriage. There are now many ways to have children, for both heterosexual and gay and lesbian couples, regardless of biological limitations, when there is a desire to reproduce.

Finally, I will say the marriage is a natural right, not to be forfeited without good cause. Children do not normally grow and mature wondering if they will be allowed to marry, unless they discover that they are gay and happen to live in the wrong state. Your daughter is right, and you should not liken her to the dog.

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May 9, 2013 08:56:17   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Morals do matter, without a moral foundation this nation will crumble just like others who have lost their moral compass. { Who is to say what is moral? Is morality static or does it evolve? There was a time when slavery was thought to be "moral" You can't decide what is moral and what is not based on your "sensibilities" alone}


Yes there is an agenda,and an all out assault on traditional values. The left has been defining deviancy further and further down for over 50 years. The goal is socialism which won't be accepted in a society where there is a high regard for morals,a strong family, and faith in God. All these things have to be ridiculed and destroyed in order for society to be shoved to the left. The schools are the indoctrination places where this has happened, because parents blindly thought public school was like it used to be 50 years ago. And it's all based on lies, because the left can't move their agenda forward with the truth

{So you're saying that all supporters of gay rights/ marriage equality are socialists/leftists? Did you ever hear of GOProud or the Log Cabin Republicans? Oh yes, and many gays believe in God too}

Morals do matter, without a moral foundation this ... (show quote)

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