Kachina

Good idea. If Clinton actually gets the nomination and he is still singing her praises, I just might do that. Of course he will just blame the story on the GOP as so many Clinton supporters do. I must have dropped the kid on his head when he was a baby, not much common sense there.

Ve'hoe

There is an incredibly good book by Pascal Bruckner called "Tears of the white man,,, Compassion as contempt"


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCIQFj...

When I was a "radical Indian activist" (age 18) I picked this up and began to read,,,,,, and became a conservative as I saw the fallacy and lies of academia and the left wings activism throughout college. It was soooo cliche and phony....

When I joined the Marine Corps,,,, and went to war/overseas,,, I saw the lie that was left wing politics... the corruption, murder, racism and destruction... so many leftists here will not face the truth of what their policies do to others.... not as long as they can blame it on others....

Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas

Thank God there is one sane individual, in your family, your son.

Marcus Johnson

Your son is obviously a very wise young man ,and you should be proud that demonstratessuch profound intelligence, for someone so young.

You did a great job .
:thumbup:

skdvr1 Loc: Mexizonia

Old American Culture is now a square peg that no longer fits the round hole of New American Culture. There can be no easy coexistence.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Not all our youth is blind. Most of the younger people I know (some that work for me) discuss the changes that more or less, have created a loss of our First Amendment rights. There is nothing wrong with working to get things back on track. However, at times you do have to realize that some sick souls can never be trusted to NOT pursue the course of destruction that they have sworn to do no matter what.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I do not define it that way at all. It is defined by the manner in which one argues their view or dismisses the views of others. I do not read any sense of religious standards or morality in the manner of many's defense of their views/stances. :wink: It would serve all well to remember: "Take care of your thoughts when you are alone, and take care of your words when you are with people." Most both hear and listen more closely when one doesn't yell, and is civil. :thumbup:

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Hillary will be supported even if she had been photographed with a Polaroid picture murdering babies....the lefties do not care how many laws or how criminal Hillary is....the same as how the left supports King Barry from Kenya.

Hillary will be sitting in a jail cell before the election. The lefties will STILL support her. Hillary is a sinking ship of fools.

Ve'hoe

too bad your parents couldnt say the same thing,,,

Ve'hoe

that requires civility, from both sides,, myself I have been called a "squawboy""red ni--er""uncle tomtom","too lazy to work", "apple",,, and "white sympathizer" by the "civil and educated" left on this site......were I always talking to "YOU" that would be the case,,,, however,,, I must contend with hatefilled racist scum,,,, ie liberals

I used "you" not necessarily to define you personally,,, but the collective "you" who sees themselves as open minded and fair,, yet indulges in racist hatred when they cannot dominate the conversations through their own intellect... then of course they cry foul... after being quite foul...

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I know of which you speak, Ve'hoe, and recognize what you are saying. But, it comes from all sides of the ideological spectrum. However, one side's bad behavior is not necessarily a reason for reciprocation in kind. It can only be used as an excuse. Usually, a more lasting and positive impression comes from one's besting another with civility. :wink:

Ve'hoe

Strangely,,, though one side professes to be the "good guys" looking out for us po dum injuns,,,, and givin us snap cards and abortions, they also hurl the preponderance of racial generalizations and epithets,,,,, even though not reciprocated I still get blamed for it,,,, and thereby they feel "justified: with their racism...

Frankly,, I have experienced otherwise with conservatives,,,,, while their first impression of an indian is similar to the democrats,,,, they quickly warm up when treated fairly, truthfully, and are very gracious in their acceptance,,,,, not so much on the left.

The left reaaaaalllllly despises a minority that doesnt conform and tow the liberal line.... which is where most of the racism hurled at me on OPP comes from... because of the standards, morals, and values I espouse... like truth for instance...

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

It's the chicken and the egg question again. Do politicians act this way because we do, or do we act like they do? I think the question is moot now days, as the solution is the same. If we can each recognize our belligerent behavior for the destructive force it is, we can modify it, but we'll never do so - if it's pointed out by another - human nature requires us to "double down" on whatever has been critiqued, as a response to being threatened.

That's the sad tragic comedy I see around me. We are kept in a constant state of threat, every minute of every day, so that we see everything as a threat, no matter how benign, friendly, well meaning or constructive it really is. I see your point about Ike's quote and it fits perfectly. By each of us taking the "moral high ground", according to our own interpretation, we wind up with millions of hills ( each with it's own King ) on either side, with both sides lobbying shells at the other - right over the heads of those in the center - which is now "no mans land".

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

I see your point and agree, for the most part, but I've discovered a hidden danger. Whenever a "side" gets caught violating it's OWN precepts, it's first response is to blame everyone else, especially the "other" side, and avoid taking responsibility for the mistake. Anyone too committed to one "side" or the other, is subject to accepting the excuses at face value and be lead into error - still believing they are standing their ground - even though it is no longer the ground they started with.

The only thing more slippery than an eel, is a politician, no matter what color they wear, so letting them set the battle fields for us - is a dangerous proposition. While we're busy trying to kill each other, at their behest, they're sipping martini's on a beach somewhere - else. Humans are sinful creatures and no matter how hard they try, they will slip into the mud given half a chance - and a great many don't try very hard. An entire ideology, or even a religion, can be corrupted easily - anytime too many follow too few - as it's greatest strengths are found when it's members caution each other and suggesting a "check yourself" moment - and accepting of such suggestions in return.

Ve'hoe

That is my point,,, so many minorities MUST villify the whites as though somehow your very personage and existance is based in how bad the other guy is.

In so doing you never develop "you" or anything about you worthy of notation,, or even emulation.

It is no difference between black or white racists,,,,, everything about them is based in or on how bad the other guy sucks.... I saw that early on,,,, and realized who the real enemy was....

Voting for barack obama because he is black is no different than voting against him,,,, because he is black,,,,,


Racism is not ever cured,,, by equal, yet opposite application, of more racism.....


And when you are paying attention to that aspect of each other,,,,, a politician is picking your pocket...