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Jul 22, 2015 13:36:15   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Rufus wrote:
No. Bush's orders and our Navy Seals did that. Can you imagine the public outcry if Obama had not allowed our Seals to do their job ? Obama simply sacrificed one of his Muslim brothers for the goal of Islam and Satan to destroy us. He did try to take credit, but our Seals were thoroughly disgusted with him. He is an evil punk.


You've made quite an art-form of pretzel logic.

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Jul 22, 2015 14:14:23   #
grey gringo Loc: South Texas
 
Political correctness is robbing us of our free speech rights, any speech offending a specific group is considered hate speech and is therefore illegal. That is why conservatives are always accused of hate speech when discussing anything controversial. The left has coopted freedom of speech charging that any speech they don't approve of or is contrary to their position is hate speech as a way to control thought.
working class stiff wrote:
What malarky. No one is taking away your right to free speech.

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Jul 22, 2015 14:36:12   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
grey gringo wrote:
Political correctness is robbing us of our free speech rights, any speech offending a specific group is considered hate speech and is therefore illegal. That is why conservatives are always accused of hate speech when discussing anything controversial. The left has coopted freedom of speech charging that any speech they don't approve of or is contrary to their position is hate speech as a way to control thought.


How is that any different than the vitriol that is hurled at liberals by conservatives? Have you seen the free speech on this site used against anyone who has a different take on issues than the right?
That free speech is also an attempt at getting those with whom one disagrees to conform to the conservative way of thinking.....or, in shorthand, political correctness.

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Jul 22, 2015 14:39:56   #
Nickolai
 
DamnYANKEE wrote:
Ive had Enough of ALL this LIB/DEM COMMIE PC BULLSHIT . PERIOD . LIBTURDS can All SUCK MY NUTSKIES :evil: :evil: :evil:











Brilliant argument !

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Jul 22, 2015 15:29:57   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Nickolai wrote:
Brilliant argument !


Amen. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 22, 2015 16:39:22   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Rufus wrote:
OSAMA MUST BE KILLED



Much has changed in America since the last year... since the last few months and weeks even! The hope and joy that once filled American has turned to great despair and dread concern. We have had many great challenges before in our nation's past but we have never experienced an inward hostile takeover of our three branches of government as we have last week. The years of leftist preparation and incrementalism have finally paid off and they have seized the power and are now implementing their socialistic secular lawless tyrannical agenda full bore. This present state of helplessness and great concern has now finally engulfed the hearts of those Americans who had once clung onto optimistic appraisals and hopes. They have now finally come to understand that the very hour in which they are now living in is indeed the end of America. Great worry and concern is now found throughout the New Media including Rush Limbaugh and in the conservative movement in general. Optimistic appraisals of our return to our Founder's vision for America are now but a vapor and the reality of our nation's estate have finally set in frightening those who now understand and can see that the implosion (morally and fiscally) of our nation is at hand and lawlessness, tyranny and governmental slavery are at our very door.


I would liken our nation to a loved one, who has been hit by a car and is in the critical care unit of the hospital. He shows possible signs of recovery and there is great relief among his loved ones at the future prospect that he will survive and get some of his functions back. He will not be fully restored to the way he once was, but at least he will be with us and we can love him. Then... the doctor purposely prescribes the wrong medications and as a result of this doctor's diabolical deed our love one is now placed in a comma and is in a greater state of emergency than the first. He has now received brain damage due to the medication's complications of his poisoning and to continue to live he must be on life support. Our moment of temporary joy and hopeful optimism at our love one's partial recovery is now turn to great anger, despair and hopelessness. The reality that our loved one will never recover from his doctor's injustice and injury has made us angry and fully grieved, for the reality has now set in that we will never be able to interact or enjoy our loved one again, for he is indeed truly gone and we are helpless to save him. We have tried to do all that is within our power but must now come to the very sobering realization as he lies on life support that he is lost and has not much time left in this world. My friend that is how I and others now feel about our nation's present estate. The jig is finally up and we fully know that indeed very troubling days of tyranny, lawlessness and oppression are at our very door as a nation... and the world.

The anti-Constitutional secular left have finally fulfilled their secular tyrannical desire and have slain our Founding Father's vision and our Constitution in which it cannot return. The glass is broke and unrepairable. It is my personal opinion - with lawlessness abounding in all three branches of U.S. Government - that anarchy, oppression, fiscal depression and civil war is at hand and it is just a matter of time before our national implosion (fiscally and morally) finally occurs.

Our U.S. government (local/national) has been occupied and saturated with those who HATE and DESPISE all that our Founding Fathers stood for. The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God (Almighty God's moral absolutes for time) have been under the unrelenting secular jihad of those who disdain and abhor their Creator and all that represent His moral absolutes (Rom. 1:18-32, Jude 1:8,10). Our current president is the fulfillment of all these godless secularist twisted dreams and hopes. He has been absolutely hell bent on the destruction and disintegration of our nation and its Judeo/Christian heritage and has been very successful in his war against our Constitution.

Over the last 75 years the secular socialistic seed has been planted, watered and nourished. The time has now finally come in our history to reap this secular socialistic harvest and Obama has been the man to "git R done". Obama's policies, euphemisms and twisted justifications of his lawless actions have cut through the rotted America social core as a hot knife through warm butter. Fifty years of lawless indoctrination, critical theory, secularism, moral relativism and socialistic kool aid has dumbed down and made drunk this nation's citizens and has made this nation's inhabitants ripe for the pickings and dumb as a rock.

America's clueless pleasure seeking narcissistic inhabitants (Right, Moderate and Liberal) and governmental program addicts have all been mentally and morally passed out and at the wheel for years, while America has been stealthily taken over. As the U.S. frog has been slowly cooked over 75 years so have our nation's inhabitants. Many have finally woken up since the Lefts (in 2006) and Obama's (in 2008) takeover of America, but it has been a little too late; for the damage has long been done and the lawless reaper's now have come.

This day the Left rejoices in a new "lawless revolution" that has finally taken over the Founding Father's vision of America. The Left celebrates a new nation born to replace our old one which was founded on the Laws of Nature and of Natures God. Almighty God has been finally ousted from our three branches of government and a secular agenda and government is now the new god of America. We look back at what once was America and understand that we are now in a new era, a new realm, a new estate ever evolving now into fascist tyrannical state of despotism and anarchy. The American Lefts fascism, which has hid behind a smiley face for years has now revealed its self to be the consuming Dragon of old (John 8:44, Eph. 6:12, Rev. 12:9). Make no mistakes my friends more is at work here then the hands of lawless man (2 Cor. 4:3-4, Eph.6:12). The Master politician has now set the stage for his soon reception and 666 global state (2 Thess. 2:3-12, Rev. 13) in which none shall escape (1 Thess. 5:1-4, Rev. 6-19).

Our nation's ONLY hope in this dire hour is for each American to turn to Almighty God and to His saving grace. For that is what this little existence here in this fallen world is all about. Almighty God has provided a Savior for time and ETERNITY may it be that you know Him (John 3:16-17).

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

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Jul 22, 2015 16:45:39   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Kevyn wrote:
The freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to threaten the life of the President, incite riots or yell fire in a crowded theater. It never has.


Current events, free speech fined.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/mississippi-school-district-fined-over-7500-for-proselytizing-christianity-after-minister-prays-at-event--141711/

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Jul 22, 2015 17:00:39   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Much has changed in America since the last year... since the last few months and weeks even! The hope and joy that once filled American has turned to great despair and dread concern. We have had many great challenges before in our nation's past but we have never experienced an inward hostile takeover of our three branches of government as we have last week. The years of leftist preparation and incrementalism have finally paid off and they have seized the power and are now implementing their socialistic secular lawless tyrannical agenda full bore. This present state of helplessness and great concern has now finally engulfed the hearts of those Americans who had once clung onto optimistic appraisals and hopes. They have now finally come to understand that the very hour in which they are now living in is indeed the end of America. Great worry and concern is now found throughout the New Media including Rush Limbaugh and in the conservative movement in general. Optimistic appraisals of our return to our Founder's vision for America are now but a vapor and the reality of our nation's estate have finally set in frightening those who now understand and can see that the implosion (morally and fiscally) of our nation is at hand and lawlessness, tyranny and governmental slavery are at our very door.


I would liken our nation to a loved one, who has been hit by a car and is in the critical care unit of the hospital. He shows possible signs of recovery and there is great relief among his loved ones at the future prospect that he will survive and get some of his functions back. He will not be fully restored to the way he once was, but at least he will be with us and we can love him. Then... the doctor purposely prescribes the wrong medications and as a result of this doctor's diabolical deed our love one is now placed in a comma and is in a greater state of emergency than the first. He has now received brain damage due to the medication's complications of his poisoning and to continue to live he must be on life support. Our moment of temporary joy and hopeful optimism at our love one's partial recovery is now turn to great anger, despair and hopelessness. The reality that our loved one will never recover from his doctor's injustice and injury has made us angry and fully grieved, for the reality has now set in that we will never be able to interact or enjoy our loved one again, for he is indeed truly gone and we are helpless to save him. We have tried to do all that is within our power but must now come to the very sobering realization as he lies on life support that he is lost and has not much time left in this world. My friend that is how I and others now feel about our nation's present estate. The jig is finally up and we fully know that indeed very troubling days of tyranny, lawlessness and oppression are at our very door as a nation... and the world.

The anti-Constitutional secular left have finally fulfilled their secular tyrannical desire and have slain our Founding Father's vision and our Constitution in which it cannot return. The glass is broke and unrepairable. It is my personal opinion - with lawlessness abounding in all three branches of U.S. Government - that anarchy, oppression, fiscal depression and civil war is at hand and it is just a matter of time before our national implosion (fiscally and morally) finally occurs.

Our U.S. government (local/national) has been occupied and saturated with those who HATE and DESPISE all that our Founding Fathers stood for. The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God (Almighty God's moral absolutes for time) have been under the unrelenting secular jihad of those who disdain and abhor their Creator and all that represent His moral absolutes (Rom. 1:18-32, Jude 1:8,10). Our current president is the fulfillment of all these godless secularist twisted dreams and hopes. He has been absolutely hell bent on the destruction and disintegration of our nation and its Judeo/Christian heritage and has been very successful in his war against our Constitution.

Over the last 75 years the secular socialistic seed has been planted, watered and nourished. The time has now finally come in our history to reap this secular socialistic harvest and Obama has been the man to "git R done". Obama's policies, euphemisms and twisted justifications of his lawless actions have cut through the rotted America social core as a hot knife through warm butter. Fifty years of lawless indoctrination, critical theory, secularism, moral relativism and socialistic kool aid has dumbed down and made drunk this nation's citizens and has made this nation's inhabitants ripe for the pickings and dumb as a rock.

America's clueless pleasure seeking narcissistic inhabitants (Right, Moderate and Liberal) and governmental program addicts have all been mentally and morally passed out and at the wheel for years, while America has been stealthily taken over. As the U.S. frog has been slowly cooked over 75 years so have our nation's inhabitants. Many have finally woken up since the Lefts (in 2006) and Obama's (in 2008) takeover of America, but it has been a little too late; for the damage has long been done and the lawless reaper's now have come.

This day the Left rejoices in a new "lawless revolution" that has finally taken over the Founding Father's vision of America. The Left celebrates a new nation born to replace our old one which was founded on the Laws of Nature and of Natures God. Almighty God has been finally ousted from our three branches of government and a secular agenda and government is now the new god of America. We look back at what once was America and understand that we are now in a new era, a new realm, a new estate ever evolving now into fascist tyrannical state of despotism and anarchy. The American Lefts fascism, which has hid behind a smiley face for years has now revealed its self to be the consuming Dragon of old (John 8:44, Eph. 6:12, Rev. 12:9). Make no mistakes my friends more is at work here then the hands of lawless man (2 Cor. 4:3-4, Eph.6:12). The Master politician has now set the stage for his soon reception and 666 global state (2 Thess. 2:3-12, Rev. 13) in which none shall escape (1 Thess. 5:1-4, Rev. 6-19).

Our nation's ONLY hope in this dire hour is for each American to turn to Almighty God and to His saving grace. For that is what this little existence here in this fallen world is all about. Almighty God has provided a Savior for time and ETERNITY may it be that you know Him (John 3:16-17).

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
Much has changed in America since the last year...... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Excellent post and right on target. There are many who believe this. As Christians we have the benefit of God's Word and although it is hard to watch the destruction of our nation which was founded by honoring God, dissolve so rapidly we know the end of the story. I get angry and upset watching the madness taking place before our eyes. It is almost surreal. I must continually go to The Lord in prayer. But that is OK. That is what I need to do all the time, whether things are good or bad. I do have the comfort of knowing that horrible unspeakable things must happen, but as a prelude to The Lord's return. I think as Christians we must continually encourage each other and remind each other all will be well in the end. Jesus is coming and it appears he is coming soon. Of course I hope the rapture occurs before the tribulation period. Nevertheless, Jesus is victorious and we will spend eternity with Him where there is no more evil. We will be with Him for a thousand years while He rules the earth from His throne in Jerusalem. We will work. He will be teaching us His will and His laws. After that I do not know. But I don't have to. I trust Him and His promises. I know I will spend eternity with Him. Here is something I learned recently that you may find interesting. There are 8 times as many prophecies about Jesus' second coming as there are about His first coming. Even though all the prophecies about His first coming were proven true many will choose to reject Him. I pray millions world wide will wake up and accept Him as Savior before it is too late. I do not want anyone to spend eternity in hell. I am afraid many will by the looks of things. Thank you for your post Jack. Very well thought out and well spoken and true. I hope many more will read it.

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Jul 22, 2015 18:59:00   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Rufus wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Excellent post and right on target. There are many who believe this. As Christians we have the benefit of God's Word and although it is hard to watch the destruction of our nation which was founded by honoring God, dissolve so rapidly we know the end of the story. I get angry and upset watching the madness taking place before our eyes. It is almost surreal. I must continually go to The Lord in prayer. But that is OK. That is what I need to do all the time, whether things are good or bad. I do have the comfort of knowing that horrible unspeakable things must happen, but as a prelude to The Lord's return. I think as Christians we must continually encourage each other and remind each other all will be well in the end. Jesus is coming and it appears he is coming soon. Of course I hope the rapture occurs before the tribulation period. Nevertheless, Jesus is victorious and we will spend eternity with Him where there is no more evil. We will be with Him for a thousand years while He rules the earth from His throne in Jerusalem. We will work. He will be teaching us His will and His laws. After that I do not know. But I don't have to. I trust Him and His promises. I know I will spend eternity with Him. Here is something I learned recently that you may find interesting. There are 8 times as many prophecies about Jesus' second coming as there are about His first coming. Even though all the prophecies about His first coming were proven true many will choose to reject Him. I pray millions world wide will wake up and accept Him as Savior before it is too late. I do not want anyone to spend eternity in hell. I am afraid many will by the looks of things. Thank you for your post Jack. Very well thought out and well spoken and true. I hope many more will read it.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Excellent post and... (show quote)



Good to hear from you brother. I have been traveling by truck and Rv 4 months from Washington and now in Oklahoma. Should be near your area in a few weeks.
I have noticed a higher degree a vitural hate on this forum, an entrenchment of ideology since the supreme court decided to twist the 14th amendment written for free slaves into marriage between same sex.the demonic forces are less restrained, while the powers of blindness for the rejection of God increase. The church end of age is rapidly closing, with the fullness of the gentiles (the harvest) .
God bless all that are sounding the horn of what is to come.

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Jul 22, 2015 19:00:36   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
Policywonk wrote:
I have had it with political or any other kind of speech correctness. Our founding fathers deemed it necessary to provide free speech as one of the underpinnings for a new republic. When did we decide to "punish" those who engage in free speech? My mother taught me, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me." Only I, can choose to ignore words or decide I have been offended. Deciding I am offended offers a path that requires serious effort. I am lazy. It is often far better to just consider the source and let hurtful words dissipate into the ether.

If a movie or TV program is going to upset me, I can choose not to watch it. I choose which books or news articles I wish to read. I try to read a broad array of news sources in order to sift facts from propaganda. I believe what I chose to call truth, while accepting that others have an equal right. I may offer facts to support my position. Others may choose to accept or disprove my facts. I allow them that right. I will listen to counter facts and weigh their viability. Just don't waste my time with profanity, name calling or complete distortion of facts.

I have had it with name calling instead of countering with facts. I have had it with taking words out of context to vanquish a presumed foe. I have had it with choosing to persecute those with religious convictions or a different position regarding marriage. Live and let live unless the other steals your money or breaks your bones.

Stop making big issues out of nothing and attempt to solve very real and serious problems.

Speak the truth as you see it and let everyone else do the same.
I have had it with political or any other kind of ... (show quote)




PC is BS!!!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 22, 2015 19:22:44   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Good to hear from you brother. I have been traveling by truck and Rv 4 months from Washington and now in Oklahoma. Should be near your area in a few weeks.
I have noticed a higher degree a vitural hate on this forum, an entrenchment of ideology since the supreme court decided to twist the 14th amendment written for free slaves into marriage between same sex.the demonic forces are less restrained, while the powers of blindness for the rejection of God increase. The church end of age is rapidly closing, with the fullness of the gentiles (the harvest) .
God bless all that are sounding the horn of what is to come.
Good to hear from you brother. I have been travel... (show quote)

Amen. Let me know when you are getting close. Yes, we are also human and can get upset by the rapid evil we see taking place. Some of my posts are reactionary. I admit it.

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Jul 22, 2015 21:20:12   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Rufus wrote:
Amen. Let me know when you are getting close. Yes, we are also human and can get upset by the rapid evil we see taking place. Some of my posts are reactionary. I admit it.


Reactionary, as are mine.

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Jul 25, 2015 10:14:41   #
fbaywolf5
 
fbaywolf5...9 yrs after the Declaration of Independents was signed, the Wig Party passed a law that it was agalnst the law to speak ill of the U.S. government. A merchant of an iirregularity in the president's finances. He was put on trial, found guilty, sentanced to two yrs. in jail and 2 thousand dollar fine(about 2 million today). The Wig Party today is now the Republican Party. So at present, with the exception of a few house and seven Republican Senators, I can't tell the difference between republicans and democrats. I trust none of them, especially the speaker of the house and pro temp
USNRET

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Jul 25, 2015 10:17:51   #
fbaywolf5
 
fbaywolf5...the merchant spoke against the U.S. government

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Jul 25, 2015 10:19:30   #
fbaywolf5
 
fbaywolf5...9 yrs after the Declaration of Independents was signed, the Wig Party passed a law that it was against the law to speak ill of the U.S. government. A merchant spoke of an irregularity in the president's finances. He was put on trial, found guilty, sentanced to two yrs. in jail and 2 thousand dollar fine(about 2 million today). The Wig Party today is now the Republican Party. So at present, with the exception of a few house and seven Republican Senators, I can't tell the difference between republicans and democrats. I trust none of them, especially the speaker of the house and pro temp
USNRET

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