bahmer-it is not we republicans you have to convince. The independents will decide the e******n and we republicans can push conservatism from now on but unless the independents buy into it the democrats win again. Also, it is difficult to preach tightening of the belt and balanced budgets when the opposition is constantly chanting, "the republicans will take away your social securtiy, medicare, food stamps, welfare, etc." The low information v**er does not want anything taken away from him/her so they v**e democrat. I would rather have a moderate republican as president than a liberal democrat. Good Luck America !!!