Greg Brady Loc: Phoenix

Good to see more progressive thinkers are waking up to what a fraud Barack Obama turned out to be, it's to bad someone like Bernie Sanders didn't primary Obama in 2012, of course the Obamabots would never have that.

jay-are

Why don't you move to a c*******t country? Why do you want to make USA a c*******t country? If you prefer c*******m, just move. America was founded to be free with minimal government control and power.

I don't understand why Christians want to live in Muslim countries, or why Muslims want to live in Christian countries, or why c*******ts want to live in Free countries or people who want to be free stay in c*******t countries.

Why can't we get together with people we like and agree with and let others who think differently live together among their friends?

Brian Devon

I like President Obama...mostly. I like that, unlike so many presidents, he has not launched any new wars. I also like that he is reducing the post-cold war budget of a bloated military. I don't like that we are still in Afghanistan, resulting in the deaths of our soldiers as well as Afghani deaths. Does anyone really know why the hell we are still there? Did we learn nothing from the Russians debacle there? I don't like Obama care. Insurance companies, as in most of the developed world, need to be removed from the equation. Single payor is the way of the future. I do not like the NSA spying. However, someone mildly liberal, like President Obama can pave the way for someone who is actually progressive like Senator Sanders.

clarkwv Loc: west virginia

Jay, just why is it you can not accept what someone says at face value. In stead you changed what he say into something he did not say.

No place in what he said did he mention he was talking about two different minimum wages, nut some how you decided that was what he was talking about.

I am saying when some one like Senator Sanders makes a statement I listen to what he says and do not look for hidden meaning to make it into something I can live with.

You did not claim your were talking about what you thought he was talking about, but stated you opinion as if it was fact.

vernon

bernie sanders is a pile of bovine manure .he represents a c*******t doctrine not his citizens

Brian Devon

[quote=jay-are]Why don't you move to a c*******t country? Why do you want to make USA a c*******t country? If you prefer c*******m, just move. America was founded to be free with minimal government control and power.

I have no preference for c*******m. I just believe that our free enterprise system should be regulated from the worst extremes. As far as moving goes, maybe you should move to Russia. It is no longer the USSR and no longer Marxist. The Eastern Orthodox Church is resurgent, and it is becoming more of a nation that Republicans can envy. They are led by a manly-man, who rides gallantly shirtless on his horse, while he bashes gay people. What could be more arousing to a conservative male?

vernon

that fits all the lefties on this thread .if they cant twist the subject fo fit their agenda they just start lying and being nasty.

vernon

[quote=Brian Devon]

i think i might check it out

vernon

[quote=Brian Devon]

brian you can tell your self that but just go overthere and you will understand why we fear tyranny and corrupt politicans

jay-are

So now you are making fun of Russia and espousing the superiority of America over Russia? I was disagreeing with you because you were so critical of America and the free market. Which is it? Is the free market of America better, or is the c*******t system in Russia better? You can't criticize America and advocate making it more like c*******m, and then make fun of c*******m. You are confusing me.

jay-are

You just choose to misunderstand what I wrote. Why don't you try to understand my point as I intended it to be understood? My point was that a wage for a one bread winner family man or woman is not a mimimum wage. He needs to be paid a sufficient wage to support his family.

Minimum wage is a lower wage paid for entry level or extremely low sk**l type jobs. There is no need to raise the minimum wage to pay the family man a sufficient wage to support his family. The answer for that problem is to create ways to find better jobs for people with families to support. Increasing the minimum wage doesn't help. That guy is still earning minimum wage. What he needs is to make more than minimum wage.

The t***h of Bernie Sanders is that he advocates increasing the minimum wage because he knows that will hurt the ecomomy, lead to civil unrest, and that will provide the opportunity to stage a revolution and o*******w the current government. That is what he is actually interested in, not the struggles of a guy earning minimum wage.