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Dec 31, 2013 10:36:44   #
BoJester
 
Bernie Sanders destroys the conservative myth of of "minimum wage".
Better candidate than any of the rightwingnuts would be


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/30/minute-bernie-sanders-destroys-gop-opposition-raising-minimum-wage.html

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Dec 31, 2013 11:03:55   #
jay-are
 
BoJester wrote:
Bernie Sanders destroys the conservative myth of of "minimum wage".
Better candidate than any of the rightwingnuts would be


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/30/minute-bernie-sanders-destroys-gop-opposition-raising-minimum-wage.html


What he is really advocating for is a separate mimimum wage for bread winners in a family where there is a traditional family with one bread winner, and a stay at home parent and a number of children.

This employee is understood to be experienced, and having certain sk**ls that make him valuable to his company.

I think we all agree that this person should get paid a salary commensurate with his contribution and sufficient to support himself and a family. But that salary is not correctly defined as a minimum wage.

A minimum wage is defined as the wage you pay to an inexperienced, new worker, with no sk**l, who is trying to enter the workplace and get initial experience he can then claim on his resume for when he moves up to a better job after he proves himself valuable in his first one.

That wage does not have to be sufficient to support a family. That wage needs to be low enough to allow a teenager with no experience to get hired to sweep floors.

If it is too high, no one will ever be able to get started at the bottom, or in the mail room, and work their way up. There are many such success stories in American history, and apparently, Mr. Sanders has no appreciation for that kind of drive and work ethic and just hard work that has defined the American dream up until now.

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Dec 31, 2013 11:33:07   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
You had to go to the most liberal rag on the internet to find a story that backed up your ideas. Bernie Sanders is simply another one of those liberals that can't think........

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Dec 31, 2013 11:36:44   #
BoJester
 
Two points, this rag is no different than any conservative rag that is referenced here, and more honest than some of those, and Bernie Sanders does think, and that scares conservatives




MrEd wrote:
You had to go to the most liberal rag on the internet to find a story that backed up your ideas. Bernie Sanders is simply another one of those liberals that can't think........

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Dec 31, 2013 12:00:09   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
MrEd wrote:
You had to go to the most liberal rag on the internet to find a story that backed up your ideas. Bernie Sanders is simply another one of those liberals that can't think........


Bernie Sanders is an avowed socialist. Bojester is a socialist too, only he hides it. He likes to quote the liberal rags because they skew the story to the left, and either leave out a lot, or distort it (to his liking). He only quotes a moderate source, like Fox News, when it fits his anti-conservative agenda. Bojester has no interest in the t***h, only left-wing lies and distortions.

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Dec 31, 2013 12:05:05   #
BoJester
 
Just like you and the rightwingnut sources you cite everyday. Besides, the citizens of Vermont have reelected Mr Sanders, knowing that he is a Socialist. What is your point?
DiBlasio was elected as a Socialist, again, what is your point, other than revealing your fear.





OldSchool wrote:
Bernie Sanders is an avowed socialist. Bojester is a socialist too, only he hides it. He likes to quote the liberal rags because they skew the story to the left, and either leave out a lot, or distort it (to his liking). He only quotes a moderate source, like Fox News, when it fits his anti-conservative agenda. Bojester has no interest in the t***h, only left-wing lies and distortions.

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Dec 31, 2013 12:25:18   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
BoJester wrote:
Just like you and the rightwingnut sources you cite everyday. Besides, the citizens of Vermont have reelected Mr Sanders, knowing that he is a Socialist. What is your point?
DiBlasio was elected as a Socialist, again, what is your point, other than revealing your fear.


Doesn't say much for the people of Vermont or New York. It will be interesting watching the downfall and increased crime rate in New York City over the next few years.

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Dec 31, 2013 13:01:16   #
Greg Brady Loc: Phoenix
 
BoJester wrote:
Bernie Sanders destroys the conservative myth of of "minimum wage".
Better candidate than any of the rightwingnuts would be


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/30/minute-bernie-sanders-destroys-gop-opposition-raising-minimum-wage.html


I totally agree, Sanders is everything Barack Obama was suppose to be. (but wasn't)

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Dec 31, 2013 13:02:13   #
73STNGLKABEE
 
Quit it with you e******y BS, this is the fairest country in the history of the universe you whining baby. If you don't like it, we will all pitch in and fly you to NKorea where its fair. The idea f this country is to make something of yourself, which is way too difficult for l*****ts and t*****rs to understand. You are a loser. Live with that.
BoJester wrote:
Bernie Sanders destroys the conservative myth of of "minimum wage".
Better candidate than any of the rightwingnuts would be


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/30/minute-bernie-sanders-destroys-gop-opposition-raising-minimum-wage.html

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Dec 31, 2013 13:22:09   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
BoJester wrote:
Bernie Sanders destroys the conservative myth of of "minimum wage".
Better candidate than any of the rightwingnuts would be


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/30/minute-bernie-sanders-destroys-gop-opposition-raising-minimum-wage.html


I tried twice to get my conservative computer to load your link and failed both times. Do you suppose Apple really does build in a feature like that? Actually I don't really care but I did want to see what a socialist site had to say about a socialist.

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Dec 31, 2013 13:29:36   #
jay-are
 
oldroy wrote:
I tried twice to get my conservative computer to load your link and failed both times. Do you suppose Apple really does build in a feature like that? Actually I don't really care but I did want to see what a socialist site had to say about a socialist.


Sen. Sanders said,

Look. Here’s the story. The story is that the national minimum wage is seven and a quarter an hour. I think most people understand that’s a starvation wage. Individuals can’t live on it. Families can’t live on it. If we raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, which to my mind doesn’t go as far as it should, that would be a raise for 30 million Americans, vast majority of them are adults. And that’s just not people making seven and a quarter an hour. It’s people making eight bucks an hour, nine dollars an hour.

And at a time when almost all new income is going to the top 1%, it is time that working people, lower income workers get a raise, and we have got to do that. Now if the Republicans refuse to go along with that, and I very much hope that they will go along with it. I hope they understand that the overwhelming majority of the American people across the political spectrum understand that we have got to raise the minimum wage, so I hope that we can get this done.

Sen. Sanders (I-VT) took apart the major myths that form the backbone of the Republican opposition to raising the minimum wage. The Vermont senator pointed out that most minimum wage workers are adults. There are families who are trying to live off of the minimum wage. These people can’t live off of $7.25 an hour, and that minimum wage earners are working are the working poor.

Americans who are earning the minimum wage aren’t students who are working after school jobs. They aren’t living with mom and dad. These are adults who are working in mostly service industries to support themselves, and/or their families. Raising the minimum wage would be a huge step towards lifting millions of people out of poverty.

If Republicans want to lessen the need for food stamps and other assistance programs, the best way to do this would be to reward work by increasing the minimum wage.

It took Bernie Sanders about a minute to destroy the Republican rationale for not raising the minimum wage, and if Republicans try to argue this issue they will face a similar kind of humiliation as political leaders on the left will easily dismantle their conservatives myths and old wives’ tales surrounding the economic damage that is caused by increasing the minimum wage.

As Sen. Sanders demonstrated, Republicans don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to the minimum wage. House Republicans never met an unpopular position that they couldn’t embrace, but if they choose to fight this losing battle it could cost them their seats in 2014.

America’s low wage workers have had enough, and Senators like Bernie Sanders are leading the charge against income ine******y born out of starvation wages.

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Jan 1, 2014 12:28:25   #
clarkwv Loc: west virginia
 
jay-are wrote:
What he is really advocating for is a separate minimum wage for bread winners in a family where there is a traditional family with one bread winner, and a stay at home parent and a number of children.

This employee is understood to be experienced, and having certain sk**ls that make him valuable to his company.

I think we all agree that this person should get paid a salary commensurate with his contribution and sufficient to support himself and a family. But that salary is not correctly defined as a minimum wage.

A minimum wage is defined as the wage you pay to an inexperienced, new worker, with no sk**l, who is trying to enter the workplace and get initial experience he can then claim on his resume for when he moves up to a better job after he proves himself valuable in his first one.

That wage does not have to be sufficient to support a family. That wage needs to be low enough to allow a teenager with no experience to get hired to sweep floors.

If it is too high, no one will ever be able to get started at the bottom, or in the mail room, and work their way up. There are many such success stories in American history, and apparently, Mr. Sanders has no appreciation for that kind of drive and work ethic and just hard work that has defined the American dream up until now.
What he is really advocating for is a separate min... (show quote)


I find it interesting when someone who does not personally know the person they are talking about seems to thing they are capable of tell the public what the person really means. I wonder how they can do this?

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Jan 1, 2014 21:57:16   #
vernon
 
BoJester wrote:
Bernie Sanders destroys the conservative myth of of "minimum wage".
Better candidate than any of the rightwingnuts would be


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/30/minute-bernie-sanders-destroys-gop-opposition-raising-minimum-wage.html


at least we know where you stand and its not very tall

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Jan 2, 2014 09:13:13   #
jay-are
 
clarkwv wrote:
I find it interesting when someone who does not personally know the person they are talking about seems to thing they are capable of tell the public what the person really means. I wonder how they can do this?


I explain what what he says means to me. I am capable of having a thought about what Bernie Sanders said.

Are you saying when you hear or read what Bernie Sanders said, you have no idea what it means? How does that make you more qualified to comment on it?

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Jan 2, 2014 09:33:22   #
Brian Devon
 
BoJester wrote:
Just like you and the rightwingnut sources you cite everyday. Besides, the citizens of Vermont have reelected Mr Sanders, knowing that he is a Socialist. What is your point?
DiBlasio was elected as a Socialist, again, what is your point, other than revealing your fear.


I really liked your remarks. Senator Sanders is one of the most compassionate members of the senate. He would indeed make a great president, as would his fellow Vermonter Howard Dean. Up until recently I would have said it was impossible for him to be elected to the presidency....but that was what many people said about President Obama. The country could be possibly ready for the real progressive deal. Young women + liberal males+African-Americans+ Latinos= New American Majority! As always, v**er-rich California, New York, and Illinois, will lead the way. Its very hard for the Republicans to balance those 3 states with just Texas. Throw in the fact that Virginia and Florida are turning "blue" and you find the Republicans have some real problems on their hands.

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