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San Francisco Bans The Use of Fireplaces on Christmas Day.
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Dec 28, 2013 17:05:32   #
emarine
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
Believe it or not , the little town I live in does ban Washing your car in your driveway.
You cannot burn leaves outside if the smoke drifts over on your neighbors property and causes them distress !
You cannot discharge you sump pump water in the sewer , on the ground outside . or onto the streets !
You cannot play music in your house or car after 10:00 P.M. that annoys your neighbor !
You cannot let any grass clippings or leaves from your lawn fall into the street gutters!
For such a town of about 2800 people I think there is a ordinance for each one of us !
Believe it or not , the little town I live in does... (show quote)


So I guess if your horse poos in the street you will be hung?

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Dec 28, 2013 17:10:24   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
The EPA will arrest you for gaseous emissions.


Now I am certain, OUR COUNTRY IS FINISHED. Farting in public is a right guaranteed by the constitution. 23 amendement I think?

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Dec 28, 2013 17:12:57   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
emarine wrote:
So I guess if your horse poos in the street you will be hung?


After you are instructed to clean it up.

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Dec 28, 2013 17:15:29   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
angery american wrote:
Now I am certain, OUR COUNTRY IS FINISHED. Farting in public is a right guaranteed by the constitution. 23 amendement I think?


No, I think it is covered under the !st Amendment. You know, the right to free speech, or is that only applicable to Progressives? They are free to poop on everyone else. And as you know, gas is the precursor of things to come.

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Dec 28, 2013 17:19:38   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
No, I think it is covered under the !st Amendment. You know, the right to free speech, or is that only applicable to Progressives? They are free to poop on everyone else. And as you know, gas is the precursor of things to come.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :-D

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Dec 28, 2013 21:21:48   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
While I as one try to get along with my neighbors with out getting nit-picky I can see why the are lots of rules out there.

We all would like to live in a peaceful & neat area so we tend to chose places that seem to be what we like.

Places where things like this happen is where many chose to live. With out written rules if it works or with as many rules as it takes.


I don't disagree with that , but this town seems to enact ordinances ( with Fines) on the whim of 1 or 2 people who complain . They never publish minutes , they never alert people of their meeting agenda . If you go to a meeting you have to write down what you want to say and give it to them to be considered to talk to them.

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Dec 28, 2013 21:30:15   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Building a fire during Christmas might be a family tradition of yours, and depending on the weather, you may have built one on Christmas morning.
But it’s illegal in San Francisco. Just during Christmas. Christmas Eve and extending through Christmas Day. KTVU reported:
The Bay Area Air Quality Management District has issued the season’s 17th Winter Spare the Air Alert for Tuesday, officials announced.
The alert bans the burning of wood, manufactured fire logs or any other solid fuel both indoors and outdoors for 24 hours.
Although a strong weather system moved through the Bay Area late last week, air quality officials said, a high pressure system has set up across the region and pollution was once again forecast to reach unhealthy levels .
“We want everyone to enjoy their holiday this week, but unfortunately, weather conditions are causing unhealthy, muddy air again,” said Jack Broadbent, executive officer of the Bay Area Air District. “Air is forecast to be extremely unhealthy this week so it is imperative that residents protect air quality and not burn in their indoor or outdoor fireplaces.”

It is illegal for Bay Area residents and businesses to use their fireplaces, woodstoves, pellet stoves, outdoor fire pits or any other wood-burning devices during the alert.
Homes without permanently installed heating, where woodstoves or fireplaces are the only source of heat, are exempt, officials said.
Air quality officials said that like cigarette smoke, wood smoke contains fine particles and carcinogenic substances that make the air harmful to breathe. Wood smoke is the major source of air pollution in the Bay Area in the wintertime and is especially harmful to children, the elderly, and people with respiratory conditions.
First-time violators will be given the option of taking a wood smoke awareness class, online or by mail, to learn about the hazards of wood smoke pollution in lieu of paying a $100 ticket. Second violations will result in a $500 ticket, and subsequent ticket amounts will be higher.
They try to make it sound so reasonable by claiming they’re concerned about air pollution. I think they just want to make a buck or two during Christmas. Maybe they’ll send their bureaucrats around with nose telescopes, sniffing for wood smoke and hoping to catch violators. And who’s going to want to go to some lame “wood smoke awareness” class? Most violators would probably opt to just pay the fine and be done with it.
Prohibiting people from building a fire in their own fireplace is definitely ridiculous. It’s kind of like prohibiting people from washing their car in their own driveway. If it’s not about money, it’s about control.

Read more at http://lastresistance.com/4166/san-francisco-bans-use-fireplaces-christmas/#8osAZLYIbrMRDH8a.99
Building a fire during Christmas might be a family... (show quote)


I think this is ridiculous and more about people against X Mas instead of pollution !
If you ever go to California to a large city like San Francisco or L.A. , every morning there will be a heavy smog cover the city about 9:00pm and 5:00pm due to people driving to work and back home.
Since most people aren't driving to work during the holidays ,people's fireplaces are not going to smog up the cities like auto pollution does everyday except Sat and Sun.

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Dec 28, 2013 21:34:12   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
emarine wrote:
So I guess if your horse poos in the street you will be hung?


No you won't be hung , but you will be fined as there is a ordinance that says animals cannot go to the bathroom on public property and that you have to clean it up and remove it or be fined !

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